Presidential Approval at New Low After Budget Fight

[cpwill]

Looks like the popular analysis that the President came off clean - looking Presidential, "above the fray", etc. were incorrect. Guess enough people saw him leaving Washington to go campaigning? Or his base is becoming upset with him for compromising with Republicans. Or people think he's not serious about deficit and debt reduction. Or all three.



The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 19% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Thirty-nine percent (39%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -20

Today’s numbers reflect the lowest level of Strong Approval yet recorded for this president. There has been a sharp decline in enthusiasm among liberal voters.

Currently, just 37% of liberals Strongly Approve of the president’s performance. That’s down from 63% a year ago, 57% at the beginning of 2011, and 52% a week ago. Some liberal commentators have expressed disappointment with the president over the extension of the Bush tax cuts, the military action in Libya, and, most recently, the budget deal to avert a partial shutdown of the federal government. While liberal enthusiasm may be declining, 57% of voters believe the president is more liberal than they are.

By a 48% to 37% margin, voters recognize that to significantly cut government spending would require making major changes in National Security, Social Security, and Medicare. Those items make up a majority of all federal spending...

 

[Whovian]

It's still all Bush's fault:ninja:

 

[Objective Voice]

Again, it's RASMUSSEN, polling data among Republicans/Conservatives - not a very good snapshot of how the President is viewed across the entire American political spectrum among several demographics. Personally, I put more credibility in Gallop polls which historically reaches across a larger demographic area and is far more accurate. As such, Gallops has the President's approval rating at 46%, up 1 point from what it was last week...a minor bump but an increase nonetheless.

 

[haymarket]

RASMUSSEN...........

nuff said.

 

[soccerboy22]

Again, it's RASMUSSEN, polling data among Republicans/Conservatives - not a very good snapshot of how the President is viewed across the entire American political spectrum among several demographics. Personally, I put more credibility in Gallop polls which historically reaches across a larger demographic area and is far more accurate. As such, Gallops has the President's approval rating at 46%, up 1 point from what it was last week...a minor bump but an increase nonetheless.

Gallop is good, but I prefer RCP because it takes the average of all the polls and shows you different polls as well.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval

It looks like august 2010 was his lowest point at 42%.

RCP has him at 47% approval right now.

I am not too concerned with the outliar.

 

[soccerboy22]

Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval

It looks like august 2010 was his lowest point at 42%. 20% approval is too silly to even consider.

It is just 20% strongly approve not general approval. His general approval is at 44, of course the article doesn't mention that till half way down after talking about strong approval.

 

[Slartibartfast]

It is just 20% strongly approve not general approval. His general approval is at 44, of course the article doesn't mention that till half way down after talking about strong approval.

I knew there was something fishy ... (Good thing its not yourstar this time)

 

[Whovian]

Again, it's RASMUSSEN, polling data among Republicans/Conservatives...

This poll ONLY uses Republicans/Conservatives? I don't see that stated anywhere... can you direct me to that notation please?

 

[rocket88]

I don't care what the source is. It's funny to me that Conservatives post these polls showing Obama's support slipping like it proves something. Meanwhile, post a poll that says the Tea Party's support is slipping, and it is a "F**king Liberal Lie!"

That being said, it doesn't bode well for Obama that his support is slipping (assuming you can believe the poll). On the other hand, it doesn't bode well for Michele Bachmann that support for the Tea Party is slipping (again, assuming you can believe the poll). All of this shows that a majority of Americans fall squarely in the "neither" camp when it comes to Republicans vs. Democrats. This at a time when both parties are moving more to the extremes.

 

[ADG]

I don't care what the source is. It's funny to me that Conservatives post these polls showing Obama's support slipping like it proves something. Meanwhile, post a poll that says the Tea Party's support is slipping, and it is a "F**king Liberal Lie!"

That being said, it doesn't bode well for Obama that his support is slipping (assuming you can believe the poll). On the other hand, it doesn't bode well for Michele Bachmann that support for the Tea Party is slipping (again, assuming you can believe the poll). All of this shows that a majority of Americans fall squarely in the "neither" camp when it comes to Republicans vs. Democrats. This at a time when both parties are moving more to the extremes.

I just don't see how the Democratic Party is moving to it's extreme base side. My perspective shows the Dems, lead by our "Third Way" President, as moving toward the middle, and in many cases leaping over the middle into neo-con territory. On some social issues, such as his olive twig to gay rights last month, and his ability to (seemingly) stand strong over family planning and birth control in the last budget negotiations, he seems left of center, but on his foriegn policy and his fiscal policy he is certainly not winning over the leftists out there.

But I may not see it as I'm a bleeding heart Liberal. Where do you see the Dems moving to it's extreme?

 

[rocket88]

But I may not see it as I'm a bleeding heart Liberal. Where do you see the Dems moving to it's extreme?

Healthcare, and tax raises for the rich.

(Personally, I'm in favor of raising taxes on the rich. Getting out of the budget hole is going to take a combination of spending cuts and tax raises, so if we don't raise their taxes, eventually the middle class will be asked to bear the burden.)

 

[DontDoIt]

Ras usually is pretty accurate on his polls, and he only polls registered voters...he most definitely was nearly pintpoint accurate in the 2008 election along with the 2010 elections.

Whoever credits Gallups more credible...please take a look at who they actually survey.

 

[lpast]

Obama is slipping because of his absurd involvment in libya and the rhetoric that came from the democrats over the budget deal.

 

[shades]

This poll ONLY uses Republicans/Conservatives? I don't see that stated anywhere... can you direct me to that notation please?

of course it doesnt, nor was it or is it ever a poll that uses Republicans/Conservatives, it just makes him feel better, softens the blow so to speak. Like putting your head on Mommys shoulder when things dont go your way, that kind of thing.

Rasmussen is proven to be more accurate than any other poll, regardless of subject, bar none. thats a fact.

that being said, still not a low enough number for me, Obama has enough people that will vote for him even if was found guilty of rape.
So Id like to see those numbers in the 30's.

 

[ADG]

Healthcare, and tax raises for the rich.

(Personally, I'm in favor of raising taxes on the rich. Getting out of the budget hole is going to take a combination of spending cuts and tax raises, so if we don't raise their taxes, eventually the middle class will be asked to bear the burden.)

For Liberals, the health care reform didn't go far enough. As usual it just depends on your "starting point perspective".

As for taxing the rich, the tax rate for the rich is the same as when Bush was in office. I personally don't believe that Obama truly wanted to raise those rates or he would have pushed harder for them to be raised. Glen Greenwald has an excellent post on why that might be true in his column today.

 

[American]

RASMUSSEN...........

nuff said.

Yeah, Media Matters has a better poll. It shows Obama at 98% approval.

 

[roughdraft274]

Ras usually is pretty accurate on his polls, and he only polls registered voters...he most definitely was nearly pintpoint accurate in the 2008 election along with the 2010 elections.

Whoever credits Gallups more credible...please take a look at who they actually survey.

of course it doesnt, nor was it or is it ever a poll that uses Republicans/Conservatives, it just makes him feel better, softens the blow so to speak. Like putting your head on Mommys shoulder when things dont go your way, that kind of thing.

Rasmussen is proven to be more accurate than any other poll, regardless of subject, bar none. thats a fact.

that being said, still not a low enough number for me, Obama has enough people that will vote for him even if was found guilty of rape.
So Id like to see those numbers in the 30's.

Rasmussen Polls Were Biased and Inaccurate; Quinnipiac, SurveyUSA Performed Strongly - NYTimes.com

The 105 polls released in Senate and gubernatorial races by Rasmussen Reports and its subsidiary, Pulse Opinion Research, missed the final margin between the candidates by 5.8 points, a considerably higher figure than that achieved by most other pollsters. Some 13 of its polls missed by 10 or more points, including one in the Hawaii Senate race that missed the final margin between the candidates by 40 points, the largest error ever recorded in a general election in FiveThirtyEight’s database, which includes all polls conducted since 1998....

Rasmussen’s polls have come under heavy criticism throughout this election cycle, including from FiveThirtyEight. We have critiqued the firm for its cavalier attitude toward polling convention. Rasmussen, for instance, generally conducts all of its interviews during a single, 4-hour window; speaks with the first person it reaches on the phone rather than using a random selection process; does not call cellphones; does not call back respondents whom it misses initially; and uses a computer script rather than live interviewers to conduct its surveys. These are cost-saving measures which contribute to very low response rates and may lead to biased samples.

Hopefully all rational people here will agree that it's silly to grab the one poll that agrees with your view and ignore all others. There are many other polls showing this one to be an outlier and there is definitely enough reason to doubt the reliability of Rasmussen to ignore the other polls in favor of his. Just the fact that they only take strong approval vs strong disapproval to make up their approval rating makes me discard that number out of hand.

Anyone that thinks Rasmussen is the gold standard of pollsters really needs to do some self examination and determine whether they really think it's that reliable or if they think it because it happens to agree with them.

 

[Wiseone]

Who cares what a daily poll number says? Its literally meaningless, why even argue about it?

 

[BWG]

Who cares what a daily poll number says? Its literally meaningless, why even argue about it?

LOL, so true.

Go to the OP and click on the link and see that it has changed from Monday's (4/11/11) 44% approval to today's (4/13/11) 48% and the Approval Index rating has changed from -20 to -15.

Click on the 'see trends' link in the first paragraph.

So much for that analysis ...LOL

 

[lpast]

I don't care what the source is. It's funny to me that Conservatives post these polls showing Obama's support slipping like it proves something. Meanwhile, post a poll that says the Tea Party's support is slipping, and it is a "F**king Liberal Lie!"

That being said, it doesn't bode well for Obama that his support is slipping (assuming you can believe the poll). On the other hand, it doesn't bode well for Michele Bachmann that support for the Tea Party is slipping (again, assuming you can believe the poll). All of this shows that a majority of Americans fall squarely in the "neither" camp when it comes to Republicans vs. Democrats. This at a time when both parties are moving more to the extremes.

In all fairness Rocket all polls show obama dropping and I havent seen a poll saying the teaparty has dropped appreciatively as of yet. Obama' support has infact dropped like a rock and it should hes failed on some many fronts and issues

 

[cpwill]

It's still all Bush's fault:ninja:

if Obama loses in 2012, will that be Bush's fault too? or will voters be "angry" "uneducated" and "racist"?

 

[cpwill]

Who cares what a daily poll number says? Its literally meaningless, why even argue about it?

that's why i like the chart.

 

[Marilyn Monroe]

Obama is slipping because of his absurd involvment in libya and the rhetoric that came from the democrats over the budget deal.

Obama is a partisan hack. There are Republicans who are very good speakers that are challenging him daily. If they keep pouncing on him, I hope he'll lose his bid for reelection cause he's not that good of a President. These are tough times and this requires someone with balls. :twocents:

 

[Whovian]

if Obama loses in 2012, will that be Bush's fault too? or will voters be "angry" "uneducated" and "racist"?

there is no statute of limitations on blaming Dubbya, didn't you know that?

Obama's 2012 slogan: 'Hey, I'm still not Bush!'