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[RaleBulgarian]

I’m saying a lot, like these lawfare Democrats who want to gut the First and Second Amendments while using virtually any means at their disposal to keep Trump out of the White House again are hypocrites. They say Trump and MAGAs are a danger to freedom and the Constitution, but it is they who are the danger.

Empty, dishonest rhetoric.

He may not care about my right to own a gun, but he’s not trying to gut it.

You’re good with Traitor Trump taking bump stocks and lawfully owned firearms without due process.

Got it.

This is usually where liberals bring up Roe, to which I say, unlike the right to keep and bear arms, there is no enumerated right in the Constitution to kill a fetus. SCOTUS took the correct action: leave it up to the states.

Non-sequitur.

The NRA has endorsed Trump. They’ve called Harris “an existential threat to the 2nd Amendment.” Since she’s indicated she wants to ban tens of millions of guns, I think that’s a fair assessment.

The corrupt to its core NRA has no credibility. None.

Harris has specifically addressed one specific type of firearm; AR style semiautomatic rifles, of which there at least 20M currently in the hands of law abiding citizens.

Anyone possessing even a modest understanding of how laws are created understands that there is zero chance that a President Harris would succeed at passing any law that allows for the confiscation of the 20M (likely more) AR style semiautomatic rifles.

Pushing that narrative is bullshit fear mongering.

I’m lying?

Yes, you absolutely flat out, lied when you posted;

Kamala wants to outlaw private ownership of semi-automatic firearms. She doesn’t support the right of law-abiding Americans to defend themselves without being at a disadvantage compared to criminals.

* - No defense of Traitor Trump calling for the termination of our Constitution?

No surprise.

 

[Ahlevah]

Empty, dishonest rhetoric.

You’re good with Traitor Trump taking bump stocks and lawfully owned firearms without due process.

Got it.

Trump is not touching the semiautos.

Non-sequitur.

I’ve been down this block a couple of times.

The corrupt to its core NRA has no credibility. None.

Harris has specifically addressed one specific type of firearm; AR style semiautomatic rifles, of which there at least 20M currently in the hands of law abiding citizens.

Get real. She has the full endorsement of every gun major control group in the country: the Brady Campaign, Everytown for Gun Safety, and Giffords. She claims she supports the Second Amendment, but signed an amicus brief in the Heller case supporting the “militia” argument maintaining that the Constitution doesn’t support an individual right to keep and bear arms.

Anyone possessing even a modest understanding of how laws are created understands that there is zero chance that a President Harris would succeed at passing any law that allows for the confiscation of the 20M (likely more) AR style semiautomatic rifles.

Pushing that narrative is bullshit fear mongering.

During a CNN-sponsored town hall event in 2020 she said:

“Upon being elected, I will give the United States Congress 100 days to get their act together and have the courage to pass reasonable gun safety laws. And if they fail to do it, then I will take executive action.”

Did Kamala Harris Say She'd Sign an Executive Order to Confiscate Guns?

The 2020 U.S. Democratic candidate is definitely on the record saying she wants stronger gun-control laws, but what exactly did she say?

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Looks like she thinks if Congress doesn’t act on her timetable she has the power to write her own gun control laws as long as they’re “reasonable.” What she thinks is reasonable and what someone else does may not be the same thing. I don’t want to find out. By the way: SCOTUS said the BATF overstepped its bounds when it classified bump stocks as machine guns. At least for the moment, the devices are legal again.

Yes, you absolutely flat out, lied when you posted;

Fully-automatic weapons are already tightly regulated by the federal government. The guns she wants banned are semi-automatic rifles and handguns that are functionally no different from any other semi-automatic weapons. Yet gun control advocates want us to believe that they only want to ban guns responsible for roughly four hundred homicides a year while not touching the guns used in thousands of homicides. She supported Washington, D.C.’s handgun ban in Heller. Now she says she owns a Glock.

* - No defense of Traitor Trump calling for the termination of our Constitution?

No surprise.

You claim Trump is a traitor who called for the termination of our constitution, and yet I am the liar?

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Trump is not touching the semiautos.

Neither is Harris.

I’ve been down this block a couple of times.

No doubt.

Get real. She has the full endorsement of every gun major control group in the country: the Brady Campaign, Everytown for Gun Safety, and Giffords. She claims she supports the Second Amendment, but signed an amicus brief in the Heller case supporting the “militia” argument maintaining that the Constitution doesn’t support an individual right to keep and bear arms.

Pay attention.

I haven’t asserted that Harris doesn’t want to ban AR type semiautomatic rifles.

I said;

Anyone possessing even a modest understanding of how laws are created understands that there is zero chance that a President Harris would succeed at passing any law that allows for the confiscation of the 20M (likely more) AR style semiautomatic rifles.

Pushing that narrative is bullshit fear mongering.

During a CNN-sponsored town hall event in 2020 she said: “Upon being elected, I will give the United States Congress 100 days to get their act together and have the courage to pass reasonable gun safety laws. And if they fail to do it, then I will take executive action.”

And if she did, the EO would be immediately challenged in court, blocked, and ultimately overruled by the courts.

Embarrassing, that you’re actually ignorant/naive enough to think such an EO would stand.

Looks like she thinks if Congress doesn’t act on her timetable she has the power to write her own gun control laws as long as they’re “reasonable.” What she thinks is reasonable and what someone else does may not be the same thing. I don’t want to find out. By the way: SCOTUS said the BATF overstepped its bounds when it classified bump stocks as machine guns. At least for the moment, the devices are legal again.

And yet, you still think Harris could just issue an EO and poof! there goes 10’s of millions of semiautomatic rifles out of the hands of law abiding citizens.

Fully-automatic weapons are already tightly regulated by the federal government.

Not telling me anything I don’t already know.

The guns she wants banned are semi-automatic rifles and handguns that are functionally no different from any other semi-automatic weapons.

There you go, lying again.

Harris hasn’t ever said that she wants to ban pistols.

Yet gun control advocates want us to believe that they only want to ban guns responsible for roughly four hundred homicides a year while not touching the guns used in thousands of homicides.

Non sequitur. Save for separate thread.

She supported Washington, D.C.’s handgun ban in Heller. Now she says she owns a Glock.

Here we likely see eye to eye.

“Defense for me, but not thee”?

No.

You claim Trump is a traitor who called for the termination of our constitution,

Traitor Trump is a traitor many times over for all of his betrayals of his oath of office.

Not for calling for the termination of our Constitution though. When he made that insane, unAmerican comment he was already out of office.

Just another shit head civilian spouting off.

and yet I am the liar?

I said you lied, because you have, repeatedly.

 

[uptower]

 

[Ahlevah]

Neither is Harris.

I don’t believe her. Like I said, when she was the district attorney for San Francisco she signed an amicus curiae brief supporting Washington, D.C.’s handgun ban.

I haven’t asserted that Harris doesn’t want to ban AR type semiautomatic rifles.

I said;



And if she did, the EO would be immediately challenged in court, blocked, and ultimately overruled by the courts.

Talk about a non sequitur. So because the pit bull has a muzzle on it I can be confident that it won’t hurt me? That still doesn’t change the fact that she’s a hypocrite who wants to ban a particular class of semi-automatic weapons only because they look scary. She’s a danger to the Second Amendment, and Elon is right when he says she’s a threat to the First as well.

Embarrassing, that you’re actually ignorant/naive enough to think such an EO would stand.

She’s a hypocrite who calls Trump a threat to freedom when she’s the threat. I’m not going to assume she won’t try to use her executive authority to bypass Congress when she’s already indicated she would. Liberals do that. They’ve basically thumbed their noses at the Bruen decision in which states are supposed to establish objective criteria for the issuance of concealed-carry permits. Just try getting one in Kamala’s home state of California, where they trample on the Constitution every day.

And yet, you still think Harris could just issue an EO and poof! there goes 10’s of millions of semiautomatic rifles out of the hands of law abiding citizens.

I don’t know what she’d do. Obama said he’d unite the country. He lied. The reality was he was extremely race centric. Remember “Yes we can, ” Change we can believe in,” and “Forward”? Kamala’s just the same bullshit in a different package. As soon as she’s elected she’ll zero in on the woke social justice crap the left-wing caucus in her party wants her to focus on, because these are the loud-mouthed idiots who control it. The plight of working-class white people, especially males, in Flyover Country will be an afterthought.

There you go, lying again.

Your constitution-trampling hypocrite friends are lying. Some of the “assault weapons,” liberals want banned are in reality just scary-looking handguns:

Harris hasn’t ever said that she wants to ban pistols.

How many times do you want me to say it? She supported banning handguns in Washington, D.C. Why would she not do it elsewhere if given an opportunity? She’s not going to lift a finger to support gun owners.

I said you lied, because you have, repeatedly.

Kamala can bite me. That’s the truth.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

I don’t believe her. Like I said, when she was the district attorney for San Francisco she signed an amicus curiae brief supporting Washington, D.C.’s handgun ban.

Talk about a non sequitur. So because the pit bull has a muzzle on it I can be confident that it won’t hurt me? That still doesn’t change the fact that she’s a hypocrite who wants to ban a particular class of semi-automatic weapons only because they look scary. She’s a danger to the Second Amendment, and Elon is right when he says she’s a threat to the First as well.

She’s a hypocrite who calls Trump a threat to freedom when she’s the threat. I’m not going to assume she won’t try to use her executive authority to bypass Congress when she’s already indicated she would. Liberals do that. They’ve basically thumbed their noses at the Bruen decision in which states are supposed to establish objective criteria for the issuance of concealed-carry permits. Just try getting one in Kamala’s home state of California, where they trample on the Constitution every day.

I don’t know what she’d do. Obama said he’d unite the country. He lied. The reality was he was extremely race centric. Remember “Yes we can, ” Change we can believe in,” and “Forward”? Kamala’s just the same bullshit in a different package. As soon as she’s elected she’ll zero in on the woke social justice crap the left-wing caucus in her party wants her to focus on, because these are the loud-mouthed idiots who control it. The plight of working-class white people, especially males, in Flyover Country will be an afterthought.

Your constitution-trampling hypocrite friends are lying. Some of the “assault weapons,” liberals want banned are in reality just scary-looking handguns:

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How many times do you want me to say it? She supported banning handguns in Washington, D.C. Why would she not do it elsewhere if given an opportunity? She’s not going to lift a finger to support gun owners.

Kamala can bite me. That’s the truth.

^ Full blown, unhinged, all over the place, meltdown.

When you cool down, and if you’re able to maintain focus on the specific points you want to make, minus the extreme hyperbole and false broad brushing, I’ll be standing by to respond.

 

[poweRob]

$270 billion? Bullshit!
He’s paid no income tax on unrealized stock gains. The links in my last post indicate a Delaware judge agrees Musk inserted himself in a stockholder bite granting him $56 billion in stock, an 8.7 percent dilution of other shareholders combined Tesla portfolios.
He risks receiving only $14 billion.

Last December Musk controlled 411 million Tesla shares, currently trading @ $250.00.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/TSLA/

So, with his compensation package tied up in court, Musk’s 13% ownership of Tesla is worth $102.75 billion.
Where do I find a description of his other $168 billion?

 

[post]

Evidence of the irrationality of the merger of two cults of personality.., evidence that Musk is the personality of one of the two,
Is that Tesla stock dropped 5 points in reaction to news of the judge’s ruling, despite the $56 billion compensation “paid” to Musk is dilutive to stockholders. Musk certainly isn’t leaving Tesla in reaction to this ruling and the judge is protecting Tesla shareholder equity from the hypnotism of Musk’s cult-like effect.

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www.reuters.com

Proxy Firm Advises Shareholders to Reject Elon Musk’s $56 billion Pay Package.
“The dilutive effect upon exercise…”
The market cap of Tesla has nearly double, to $1.146 trillion since the article linked above was published last May 25.
Tesla market cap is now about 1-1/2X of all of the other auto manufacturers in the world, combined.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/TSLA/

The market cap of the world’s largest auto maker Toyota, for example, is $238 billion.