MaggieD
DP Veteran
- Joined
- Jul 9, 2010
- Messages
- 43,244
- Reaction score
- 44,664
- Location
- Chicago Area
- Gender
- Female
- Political Leaning
- Moderate
I do not believe that islam is a religion, but a cult, so I do not know how your comment is applicable.
He should:
1) have respect for those of us living here to decide our own issues
2) he already did function entirely on polls, at least until they started going against him
3) show some leadership for once
Fallacy of numbers theorum. There were 70 million Nazi party followers, and many millions of Nazi party members - was Nazism a religion too?
2. That no one is building a Mosque anyway, but converting an old factory into an Islamic Cultural Centre.
They fit as well into the definition as a cult as any other modern religion really. I mean many religions have their terrorists. Christian terrorists, Jewish terrorists, etc. The only religion I haven't heard being claimed by a terrorist is Bhuddism, even though with the whole Tibet deal I could be wrong about even that.
No thread is complete without a completely out of place nazi reference.
It's sort of hard to oppose this without conflating Al Qaeda with mainstream Muslims. Either you believe:
1. Al Qaeda and mainstream Muslims are identical.
2. They aren't identical, but people can't be expected to differentiate the two, so we evaluate them as though they are identical.
From the comments Obama made "n accordance with local laws and ordinances". So much for that argument.
This is liberal nonsense. There are several fundamental reasons that islam cannot be compared to the major world religions:
1-the very high percentage of muslims who accept and extol terrorism and violence as a means to accomplish political goals
We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war.
Ann Coulter
22% of the people in the world are Muslims. It is a religion, not a cult....unless you're using a very broad definition of cult that would include all religions.
So would this quote from Anne Coulter extolling violence mean she is a member of a cult?
Anne Coulter is not a priest, nor does she claim to be an expert on Christianity, nor does she present herself as speaking on behalf of christianity; if asked she would probably claim she is speaking on behalf on the Western democracies than as a religious figure.
That cannot be claimed of the thousands or millions of imams, clerics and learned muslims who declare a desire to conduct violent jihad and subjugation of the west. Whose state-owned newspapers do the same or worse, who operate fund-raising charities with which to conduct terrorism operations like the holy land foundation.
Obama is not the mayor of NYC, nor is he the Governor. It is not his place to give an opinion on a VERY combustible local issue. Perhaps he should be next issuing proclamations on how the subway should be run? You are in agreement with his comment, so it is obvious why you are so willing to tolerate his interference in the management of a local issue...
This is liberal nonsense. There are several fundamental reasons that islam cannot be compared to the major world religions:
1-the very high percentage of muslims who accept and extol terrorism and violence as a means to accomplish political goals
2-the very high percentage of muslims who seek to subjugate the world under islam
3-the unwillingness of muslims to separate the religious elements of it from the practice of the political
4-the unwillingness of muslims to modernize or reform islam so as to suppress the violent components of their texts from being applied in modern times
5-the consistent intolerance and oppression of non-muslim minorities inside muslim-majority nations, while demanding their "rights" while living in non-muslim majority nations
These 5 issues as a whole point to islam as an operable cult, one standing well apart from the other world religions. Political correctness may force people to hide their heads in the sand in the face of these 5 points, but reality speaks louder than spin...
Nice bit of spin by the New York Post -- I see the far-righties are on it like flies to dog ****.
Why is this an issue?
Obama is not the mayor of NYC, nor is he the Governor. It is not his place to give an opinion on a VERY combustible local issue. Perhaps he should be next issuing proclamations on how the subway should be run? You are in agreement with his comment, so it is obvious why you are so willing to tolerate his interference in the management of a local issue...
Anne Coulter is not a priest, nor does she claim to be an expert on Christianity, nor does she present herself as speaking on behalf of christianity; if asked she would probably claim she is speaking on behalf on the Western democracies than as a religious figure.
So basically, your whole argument is entirely without any merit.
bottom line: if you want to improve relations with your neighbors, you probably shouldn't go about royally pissing em off
by a plurality of TWENTY SEVEN %
LOL!
bottom line: if you want to improve relations with your neighbors, you probably shouldn't go about royally pissing em off
by a plurality of TWENTY SEVEN %
because to do so would rather defeat your purpose
ie, it would be really stupid
""Allah is our objective.
The Prophet is our leader.
The Koran is our law.
Jihad is our way.
Dying in the way of Allah is our HIGHEST Hope.
Allahu-Akbar! Allahu-Akbar!"
This is the code of the Muslim Brotherhood, to which many of those present at the dinner where Obama announced his support for the Mosque being built in Manhattan belong. The mosque is part of dawa, "which happens to be the Islamists' primary method of undermining Western values and American constitutional society". (Andrew C. McCarthy The Grand Jihad: How Islam and the Left Sabotage America) The coinstitution is not a suicide pact."
Yeah, I see where it's different from Christianity....:roll:
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?