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Bleeding Heart said:The south was lost, because Americans didn't back the mission and we simply left. Unless we can stabilize that country beforte the next two years, the same thing is quite possibly going to happen to the Iraqis. Like I said...crack a book.
SouthernDemocrat said:I would argue that there are a lot more parallels between the war in Iraq, and the Soviet war in Afghanistan, than there are between the war in Iraq and the Vietnam War.
GySgt said:Now that...I would agree to, except we aren't trying to bring oppression or communism to them. Their fate is in their own hands.
GySgt said:Does this mean you'd support bring our guys home if things don't improve over the next two years? It'd be good to have you on our side, better late than never.
Inuyasha said:I do not belive in isolationism but I am a firm supprter of the policy of non-intervention.
Navy Pride said:The debate on whether we should have invaded Iraq is over so there is no sense about whinning about that..........We are there now and we need to finish the job we have started and then bring the troops hoime.........
We can give the Iraqis a fighting chance for freedom then it is up to them...........
I personally believe they want that freedom and will become a democracy along the lines of Japan.................
Navy Pride said:The debate on whether we should have invaded Iraq is over so there is no sense about whinning about that..........We are there now and we need to finish the job we have started and then bring the troops hoime.........
We can give the Iraqis a fighting chance for freedom then it is up to them...........
I personally believe they want that freedom and will become a democracy along the lines of Japan.................
SouthernDemocrat said:What dream world are you living in? I don't think Japanese wanted an islamic theocracy. Moreover, we wrote the Japanese Constitution. It looks like the Iraqis want a democracy (if you call it that) more along the lines of an Iranian style theocracy.
Bleeding Heart said:Well, it probably doesn't really matter much to G.W. and company what kind of government they wind up with, so long as we have access to their oil and boots on the ground in the heart of the Middle East. Reagan supported Saddam for years on a similar basis.
GySgt said:What's wrong with getting oil from Iraq? Right now we get our oil from the House of Saud and they have us by the balls. Syria and Iran is a terrorist breeding ground. There is a plan.....
Bleeding Heart said:Oil itself is the problem. Want to release the House of Saud's grip on our proverbial balls? We need to ween the country off the stuff.
GySgt said:Great fix. Until Wal-Mart starts selling energy cubes, "oil" it is.
Of course not depending on oil is the ultimate fix.
Bleeding Heart said:And it sounds more "pie-in-the-sky" than it actually is. The most important ingredient is the commercial and political will.
GySgt said:You are right. Those are pretty HUGE ingredients to budge.
Navy Pride said:The debate on whether we should have invaded Iraq is over so there is no sense about whinning about that..........We are there now and we need to finish the job we have started and then bring the troops hoime.........
We can give the Iraqis a fighting chance for freedom then it is up to them...........
I personally believe they want that freedom and will become a democracy along the lines of Japan.................
SouthernDemocrat said:What dream world are you living in? I don't think Japanese wanted an islamic theocracy. Moreover, we wrote the Japanese Constitution. It looks like the Iraqis want a democracy (if you call it that) more along the lines of an Iranian style theocracy.
KidRocks said:I beg your pardon!
The debate "on whether we should have invaded Iraq is over" will NEVER be over my friend... NEVER!
Not as long as there is breath in my body, it was a bloody mistake and it should never be dimissed without proper debate by all civilized people.
Lest we forget in the future and repeat that fatal mistake the Bush administration committed in attacking Iraq.
PRESIDENT BUSH SHOULD NEVER OF INVADED IRAQ... PERIOD!!!
And it wasn't "we" who invaded Iraq kimosabe, it was President Bush who invaded Iraq, got that? It was Presdent Bush's idea!
Navy Pride said:The Congress you voted for by about a 90% majority gave the president the authority to invade Iraq...Where have you been?
KidRocks said:No, no.
In the final analysis it was President Bush who chose to attack, and in the end it was his decision and his alone to order the attack. No one else.
Navy Pride said:.........We are there now and we need to finish the job.
kal-el said:To be real, Navy, that is a bull**** position.
Navy Pride said:Only in a pacifist mind who is not concerned about terrorism and has know stomach for the fight and wants to cut and run........
you lose my friend..........
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