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President ****bag Criming in Real Time During Yovanovitch's Testimony

trixare4kids said:
Getting harder not to write trollish thread replies, and derail your own thread?

This is your thread, isn't it?
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Yes, it is and it's been a pleasure to have your participation. I always enjoy demolishing the Dear ****bag claque's BS. And you're one of my favorite targets.
 
digitusmedius said:
Well, how could you with that Dear ****bag® brand of blindfold you're wearing
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I've got trix by the balls, and trix knows it - hence why trix will say nothing, and silently fade further away from any sense of credibility, unless Trix answers my question honestly.
 
trixare4kids said:
Still off topic ad homs.

You're dismissed now.
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You're "dismissing" me from my own thread? You are a hoot and a half, trix. And if by ad hominem you mean literally "against the man" rest assured that I don't consider you any kind of man or very much of a person for that matter.
 
Obscurity said:
I've got trix by the balls, and trix knows it - hence why trix will say nothing, and silently fade further away from any sense of credibility, unless Trix answers my question honestly.
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Indeed. But, how'd you fine 'em*?

*(the balls, I mean; they must be almost microscopic).
 
digitusmedius said:
So, ****bag launches a smear tweet against a witness WHILE SHE's TESTIFYING. He can't stop committing crimes even as his old crimes are revealed.
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The reason you didn't post the tweet in your OP is because you know this is nothing but mindless TDS rant as ordered.
 
Mr Person said:
Trump's Fox cheerleaders seem to think it was a bad idea even if they don't use the word "criminal" or "intimidation"...



Speaking on Fox News, former independent counsel Ken Starr, a frequent Trump defender, said the president “was not advised by counsel in deciding to do this tweet. Extraordinarily poor judgment.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...4eefaa-07bc-11ea-8ac0-0810ed197c7e_story.html
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And, FYI folks, whether or not something is "intimidation" (or qualifies for something else) depends entirely on the context of the relation between people. It certainly isn't determined by just the words

This is another reason why the defenses of Trump have generally been so damn stupid. You don't need to say "I am committing crime X right now" to be potentially guilty of crime X. This is why drug dealers and other criminals usually speak in code, because duh, there's at least a little more plausible deniability if you say "hey, wanna get a pizza?" instead of "hey, wanna split an eight-ball?"

It's also why if Bob loaned ten grand from a loan shark and that loan shark is recorded saying "nice place you got here; shame if something happened to it", no juror with his head screwed on right would see that as anything but a threat.

The tweet* may or may not rise to that level, but then, it would also be read in context of other things Trump said about her. For example, when he said to Zelensky, "she’s going to go through some things", and in light of his animosity towards her. And as mentioned, in the overall context: he took action against her to clear the way for his corrupt scheme to get Ukraine to manufacture dirt on Biden, he threatened the whistleblower, he's raging all day every day about impeachment and previously about the scandal, he did make threatening remarks about her over the phone, etc and etc again.




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Everywhere Marie Yovanovitch went turned bad. She started off in Somalia, how did that go? Then fast forward to Ukraine, where the new Ukrainian President spoke unfavorably about her in my second phone call with him. It is a U.S. President’s absolute right to appoint ambassadors.....They call it “serving at the pleasure of the President.” The U.S. now has a very strong and powerful foreign policy, much different than proceeding administrations. It is called, quite simply, America First! With all of that, however, I have done FAR more for Ukraine than O.

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) | Twitter
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Extra credit: but we should still be glad he spends so much time tweeting. That means less time for corrupt schemes.
 
joko104 said:
The reason you didn't post the tweet in your OP is because you know this is nothing but mindless TDS rant as ordered.
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Thanks for reminding me that it's time to repost this description of what REAL TDS looks like:

 
digitusmedius said:
Even if ****bag's minions are waving this off, this tweet caused a panic in the WH resulting in emergency meetings with the WH counsel and the communications director. And even such a low-life as Liz Cheney had this to say:
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Yovanovitch is insisting that SHE should have been in total control of foreign policy, not the president, what states has Yovanovitch filed as a Democratic candidate for president in - since she intensely insists that SHE should be the making presidential foreign policy decisions, not the president.

This is witness #3 whose testimony boils down to they are witnesses to nothing, but instead are outraged that the president - not they - made the presidential decisions. This entire matter is the insiders absolutely furious that they are not 100% in total control of government and the presidency - like Democrat Chuck Schumer explained how he is just their employee and will do anything they tell him to do.

The bottomline is the Democratic Party is claiming their quest for total power is the justification for impeachment. There are no facts supporting impeachment, but Joe Biden explained how facts are irrelevant to the Democratic Party now.
 
ludin said:
so you can't point it out got it. thanks for letting everyone know that schiff is lying once again.
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Ahh, more deflection despite the fact I destroyed you by bringing up he already threatened her. Don't twist me into your fantasy, douchebag. The fact that he is tweeting, as President of the United States for the time being, about her during her testimony is highly inappropriate, and she may very well feel threatened by that.
 
element94 said:
Ahh, more deflection despite the fact I destroyed you by bringing up he already threatened her. Don't twist me into your fantasy, douchebag. The fact that he is tweeting, as President of the United States for the time being, about her during her testimony is highly inappropriate, and she may very well feel threatened by that.
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i didn't deflect at all. i asked you a question to point out where the intimidation or threat was.
your failure to answer the question and respond with something irrelevant is the deflection.

i simply called you out on it.

it isn't my fault that you couldn't point out where the threat was.
that is on you. next time you should wait and gather facts before jumping into the pool head first.
 
Obscurity said:
Are. Crimes. Needed. For. Impeachment. To. Happen?

Answer.
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you know what's needed for impeachment to happen? clear support of the voting public.

the IDIOTS in the dem house are nowhere near getting that support , except through ****ty ass lying cable propaganda outlets.

anyone listening to this farce who wasn't left indoctrinated would think they have lost their minds or that this is a setup.
 
DamnYankee said:
Isn't leftists who keep saying this isn't a criminal trial?
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So far it's only been an Impeachment Inquiry but tRump is doing his absolute best to make it criminal, not that he hasn't already. But, to the point of the thread, witness intimidation AbsaByGodLutely is criminal tRumps little hands and big mouth have been, are and continue to be his worst enemies. The best advice his friends, lawyers and family could give him is to Shut The **** Up; but he won't.
 
ludin said:
i didn't deflect at all. i asked you a question to point out where the intimidation or threat was.
your failure to answer the question and respond with something irrelevant is the deflection.

i simply called you out on it.

it isn't my fault that you couldn't point out where the threat was.
that is on you. next time you should wait and gather facts before jumping into the pool head first.
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I never said there was threat or not in his tweets today. I'll say it again, because you seem to be some sort of mental defective, I pointed out that he already had threatened her previously. You were going on after Schiff, which I don't give a rats ass about, pal. You're acting like if he didn't threaten her in his tweet today then you win.:lamo
You got it now? Take your time, nobody cares.
 
Mustachio said:
Yes, there is precedent for tweets crossing the threshold of criminal behavior/speech. It's very iffy, especially in defamation suits, but threatening people via twitter seems to be a clear cut criminal action which may or may not be subject to a criminal penalty depending on how serious in magnitude it is.
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there is huge leeway and public officials are pretty much immune from such things.
you actually have to tweet something that is actually violate or 100% false and know that it
is 100% false.
 
Irwin Corey said:
So far it's only been an Impeachment Inquiry but tRump is doing his absolute best to make it criminal, not that he hasn't already. But, to the point of the thread, witness intimidation AbsaByGodLutely is criminal tRumps little hands and big mouth have been, are and continue to be his worst enemies. The best advice his friends, lawyers and family could give him is to Shut The **** Up; but he won't.
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And so far, there's still zero evidence of a crime.
 
apdst said:
And so far, there's still zero evidence of a crime.
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A crime does not need to have been committed to impeach him.

It's long been clear that Presidents can be impeached for "high crimes and misdemeanors" that are not actual violations of federal criminal law. In an oft-cited passage from Federalist No.65, Alexander Hamilton wrote that impeachable offenses "are of a nature which may with peculiar propriety be denominated political as they related chiefly to injuries done immediately to the society itself." The involve "the misconduct of public men, or, in other words, from the abuse or violation of some public trust." This, at the moment, is the core of the case against Donald Trump for his interactions with the President of Ukraine -- that he abused his power by using taxpayer dollars as a tool to extract information potentially damaging to a political rival.

Jeffery Toobin - The New Yorker

In His Dealings with Ukraine, Did Donald Trump Commit a Crime? | The New Yorker
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But, that article goes on describe the "Hobbs Act" and how, in fact, tRump violated it.
 
apdst said:
There was no threat in Trump's tweet. It's funny as **** to watch you all lose your minds...lol
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Just like there was "no collusion. Amirite? :roll:

Too bad a jury of twelve aid there was today. :lamo
 
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