Prediction - Democrats will win both Senate seats in the Georgia Run-off

[jaeger19]

what policy sent the most black men to long prison terms? the Clinton crime bill that Biden was the main advocate in the senate for.

Hmmm... so liberals believe in tough sentences for criminals.
While conservatives are soft on crime. Got it.

 

[TurtleDude]

Hmmm... so liberals are tougher on crime than republicans. Okay.

on some issues. I am not a Republican but a libertarian. I oppose the war on drugs.

 

[digitusmedius]

Agreed on the point you've raised.
But also, Dem's winning the Senate is their worst nightmare as their far left will demand they follow through on their promises:

• Add 2 more states - likely Democrat
• Pack SCOTUS with leftist activist judges
• Eliminate the Senate fillibuster - so 50 votes is all you need to pass ANYTHING the far left wants
• Open borders, no deportation regardless of crimes committed
• Full citizenship and voting rights for any in country illegal, as well as any who cross the border
• Full single payer healthcare coverage for any illegal or legal immigrant

Yes, these are the demands that the far left political 'allies' of the Democrats are demanding, and their voices are getting louder and louder.

In essence the far left will demand the Democrats destroy the country and turn it into Venezuela within less than a generation, perhaps even less than 10 years.
"Hurray! We've arrived at Socialist Utopia!" they will no doubt cry.
Problem is it will be the same in state Venezuela - learning from history socialism simply doesn't work.

That list has 0% to do with Dem plans but 110% rightwing batshit nuts fever dreams.

 

[TurtleDude]

That list has 0% to do with Dem plans but 110% rightwing batshit nuts fever dreams.

so you are denying lots of democrats are clamoring for a supreme court packing? or statehood for a couple deep blue areas?

 

[RAMOSS]

Here's Lin Wood telling Georgia Republicans NOT to vote for Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue next month. "They have not earned your vote. Don't you give it to them. Why would you go back and vote in another rigged election for god's sake! Fix it! You gotta fix it!"

Georgians ain't dumb'

 

[W_Heisenberg]

you claim to be an independent.

I am member of the Democratic Party. I am not an independent. However, I am a moderate.

do you support the Biden campaign planks that include

massive tax hikes on both individuals and corporations

I am not against or for tax hikes. It depends on the circumstances. I think there is not very much difference between a 20% tax and a 40% tax.

I think it's silly to accuse someone of being a Communist or a Socialist if they prefer a 40% tax as opposed to a 20% tax.

In that regard, there is no difference between Democrats and Republicans. Republicans also believe the government should interfere in our economy in various ways, and this includes taxes.

Banning lots of guns from being sold while forcing gun owners to pay 200 dollars for each gun they own and 200 dollars for each normal capacity magazine they own?

1. You are referring to an assault weapons buyback program, not a total gun ban.

2. No, I don't support it.

3. I think states and cities should be able to enact various restrictions based on their local circumstances. And if someone living in a sparsely populated region of the country wants to have a full arsenal. I say, have it.

4. There is more to politics than the 2nd amendment.

It's cool you want to focus on only this issue. But it's not okay to suggest that just based on this single issue Kamala Harris or Biden are "authoritarians."

 

[digitusmedius]

Perdue vs Ossoff has a good chance of a democratic win since the dems only lost by 1.8%. But Republicans may turn out hard to prevent full democratic control, but then they may be discouraged and not turn out. So I put the chances at 50-50. However, seat 2 is very different. Both Republicans collectively got 56%, while the democrat got 33%. This will be an easy GOP win. So I see a 50% chance of 51 R - 49 D, and 50% chance of 52 R - 48 D. Sorry.

Sorry is right. The collective R numbers in both races come nowhere near 56%. Here's the Warnock-Loeffler results:

If Loeffler gets all of the also ran GoP votes she gets to 49.3% and if Warnock gets all the other Dem voters (not all shown on the attachment) he's at 48.4%--well within a MoE of winning.

In the other race there was just one other libertarian candidate so it's still a horse race and the GOTV effort will make the difference:

 

[RAMOSS]

Fascists always pick a minority group....like muslims or immigrants....and gain power by pitting the rest of the country against them


It is what trumpism is

Or minorities..

 

[digitusmedius]

so you are denying lots of democrats are clamoring for a supreme court packing? or statehood for a couple deep blue areas?

Whatever "clamoring" there was was mostly on sites like this but not at all part of Biden's campaign. But yes for statehood for DC. No valid reason for not doing that other than it having a majority black population which is the reason your side opposes it. At 685,000 it has a larger population than both Vermont and Wyoming.

 

[digitusmedius]

so you are denying lots of democrats are clamoring for a supreme court packing? or statehood for a couple deep blue areas?

Again, yes re: packing the court and no for statehood for DC. Why should deep blue "areas" be any less represented that deep red "areas" like WY? Could it have anything to do with the predominant skin color of the citizens of those areas? And there aren't "a couple" of these areas. I only know of the case for DC. Where's the other "area" rightwingers have invented?* Why, yes. Yes, it could and does.

PR is not on the list. It should easily qualify for statehood but the people of that territory keep voting against it for some reason.

 

[eohrnberger]

That list has 0% to do with Dem plans but 110% rightwing batshit nuts fever dreams.

Please inform yourself. These were public statements made by Democrat party leaders.

 

[calamity]

Please inform yourself. These were public statements made by Democrat party leaders.

Please cite any so-called Dem Party leader saying all those things. You can't. But, we all know that.

 

[Clicker III]

This is not true, and the margin in 2016 was tighter, Clinton gave her concession speech the next day.

2016 was nothing like the mess that mail in voting created. Trump won by an electoral landside, there was nothing to be done. All the controversy was based on Russia Russia Russia. Looking forward to 4 more years of investigations and an impeachment?

 

[W_Heisenberg]

2016 was nothing like the mess that mail in voting created. Trump won by an electoral landside, there was nothing to be done. All the controversy was based on Russia Russia Russia. Looking forward to 4 more years of investigations and an impeachment?

You need to turn off the television and read the court documents and the things the judges are saying.

Read the absolute rubbish people like Sydney Powell are filing.

You are so far removed from reality, it's not even funny.

 

[TurtleDude]

You need to turn off the television and read the court documents and the things the judges are saying.

Read the absolute rubbish people like Sydney Powell are filing.

You are so far removed from reality, it's not even funny.

Irony alert

 

[W_Heisenberg]

Irony alert

What are you referring to? Yesterday Trump and his allies lost in court in Arizona, Nevada, Michigan, the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals (crazy Kraken lawsuit), Minnesota, and Wisconsin. Have you read what the judges are saying? Anything you'd like to add? Is there a court case I missed? Have you read any of the documents related to the course case? Do you also suffer from the delusion that Biden will not be your next President?

 

[Clicker III]

You need to turn off the television and read the court documents and the things the judges are saying.

Read the absolute rubbish people like Sydney Powell are filing.

You are so far removed from reality, it's not even funny.

If you want to see removed from reality take a close look at the Democrat governors and Mayors responses to what's happening on the ground. Look at what's going on in the Peoples Republik of Kalifornia. Watch the reaction of the people to the draconian actions of the liberal governors in this pandemic. Watch the huge crowd that gathered when a bar owner was arrested for standing up to authority. Speaking truth to power sound familiar? The Dems continue to kick the hornets nest to try and get compliance to their draconian orders while they simply ignore compliance themselves. Keep it up loonies, the midterms are just around the corner.
OBTW condescending gaslighting doesn't become ya. All that does is project an image that resembles the old schoolmarm running her class by looking down her nose at the class.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

If you want to see removed from reality take a close look at the Democrat governors and Mayors responses to what's happening on the ground. Look at what's going on in the Peoples Republik of Kalifornia. Watch the reaction of the people to the draconian actions of the liberal governors in this pandemic. Watch the huge crowd that gathered when a bar owner was arrested for standing up to authority. Speaking truth to power sound familiar? The Dems continue to kick the hornets nest to try and get compliance to their draconian orders while they simply ignore compliance themselves.

Are we switching topics now? What the heck does this have to do with your crazy, ridiculous, fact-free assertion that Trump won the election?

If you want to talk about some other topic, fine.

But I was replying to your assertion that Biden did not win the election.

Keep it up loonies, the midterms are just around the corner
OBTW condescending gaslighting doesn't become ya. All that does is project an image that resembles the old schoolmarm running her class by looking down her nose at the class.

Read this, A conservative judge said this in Court yesterday:



I didn't say this.

Do you think this judge is gaslighting you?

Do you think the Republican elected officials in Arizona and Georgia are gaslighting you?

They certified the election results in each state. Were they lying?

Are they democrats in disguise or something?

 

[Clicker III]

Sorry is right. The collective R numbers in both races come nowhere near 56%. Here's the Warnock-Loeffler results:
View attachment 67307415
If Loeffler gets all of the also ran GoP votes she gets to 49.3% and if Warnock gets all the other Dem voters (not all shown on the attachment) he's at 48.4%--well within a MoE of winning.

In the other race there was just one other libertarian candidate so it's still a horse race and the GOTV effort will make the difference:
View attachment 67307418

That assumes that the same voters will turn out and that the same level of cheating will be allowed.

 

[Ginger Ale]

I don't know.

That's a longshot, imo.

Yes, but it helps that people are sick, dying, and hungry.

 

[Old 'N Chill]

 

[Clicker III]

Are we switching topics now? What the heck does this have to do with your crazy, ridiculous, fact-free assertion that Trump won the election?

If you want to talk about some other topic, fine.

But I was replying to your assertion that Biden did not win the election.



Read this, A conservative judge said this in Court yesterday:

View attachment 67307521

I didn't say this.

Do you think this judge is gaslighting you?

Do you think the Republican elected officials in Arizona and Georgia are gaslighting you?

They certified the election results in each state. Were they lying?

Are they democrats in disguise or something?

First, please show me where I said that Trump won the election.

Second, the legal system isn't trying to convince me and others that I'm insane and dead wrong by constantly suggesting that I am. That's the definition of gaslighting and that's exactly what you're doing.

 

[Luther]

Prediction - Democrats will win both Senate seats in the Georgia Run-off


I hope so

The worst it gets the better!

 

[W_Heisenberg]

First, please show me where I said that Trump won the election.

I apologize. I did not realize you were referring to the 2016 selection in one of your previous comments.

Second, the legal system isn't trying to convince me and others that I'm insane and dead wrong by constantly suggesting that I am. That's the definition of gaslighting and that's exactly what you're doing.

What is it that you think you are being lied to about? The pandemic stuff?

 

[Clicker III]

I apologize. I did not realize you were referring to the 2016 selection in one of your previous comments.



What is it that you think you are being lied to about? The pandemic stuff?

Apology accepted, no harm done.
Your response has nothing to do with the statement about gaslighting.
Gaslighting

Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation in which a person or a group covertly sows seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or group, making them question their own memory, perception, or judgment. It may evoke changes in them such as cognitive dissonance or low self-esteem, rendering the victim additionally dependent on the gaslighter for emotional support and validation. Using denial, misdirection, contradiction, and misinformation, gaslighting involves attempts to destabilize the victim and delegitimize the victim's beliefs.