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Oh, the line is where he asked the players to join in. That, and the fact his actions caused a huge commotion on the field, which got him fired.Prayer Coming Back to Public Schools? SCOTUS Hears Case That Would Do Just That
A major Supreme Court case has just finished being heard, and the decision could bring prayer back into U.S. schools.www.westernjournal.com
A high-profile case before the Supreme Court ended Monday with justices appearing to side with a Washington state football coach who was punished for kneeling in prayer at the 50-yard line after games.
Former Bremerton High School assistant coach Joe Kennedy was fired because he would not abandon his post-game prayer. Kennedy then launched a six-year fight that reached the nation’s highest court on Monday.
“I fought and defended the Constitution, and the thought of leaving the field of battle where the guys just played and having to go and hide my faith because it was uncomfortable to somebody — that’s just not America,” the Marine veteran said, according to NPR.
On Monday, attorneys for the two sides argued their case before the court, with appointments to the court made by former President Donald Trump appearing to have a major influence on how the court might rule. Trump appointed Justices Neal Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett to the court, giving conservatives a majority.
When the dust settled Monday, The New York Times summarized the arguments by writing that “Members of the court’s conservative majority indicated that the coach, Joseph A. Kennedy, had a constitutional right to kneel and pray at the 50-yard line after games.”
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I’ve never read anywhere that he asked the players to join. They did so of their own free will. If you have a link that states he asked players to join, I’d like to see that.Oh, the line is where he asked the players to join in. That, and the fact his actions caused a huge commotion on the field, which got him fired.
Have you ever heard the term 'peer pressure'? BY asking to join , which he didI’ve never read anywhere that he asked the players to join. They did so of their own free will. If you have a link that states he asked players to join, I’d like to see that.
It began with the coach, alone, briefly thanking God after the final whistle for keeping the players safe, for fair play and for spirited competition. But soon enough, the number of players gathering alongside Kennedy after games grew to include a majority of the team, though participation varied. At least one parent said his son felt “compelled to participate” out of fear he would lose out on playing time.
And soon enough, the prayers by Kennedy, himself a graduate of Bremerton High School, evolved into motivational speeches with religious references.
For seven years, Kennedy continued his practice of praying on the field with no issues. But in September 2015, the Bremerton School District learned what he was doing when an opposing team’s coach told Bremerton High School’s principal that Kennedy asked his players to join him for the post-game prayer, saying he “thought it was pretty cool” the district would allow such activity, according to court records.
Yea, I’m aware of the term, but that’s not what you said. You said he asked players to join him, which is false.Have you ever heard the term 'peer pressure'? BY asking to join , which he did
From https://wtop.com/supreme-court/2022...ng-on-the-field-brings-case-to-supreme-court/
THe fact that one parent said his son felt compelled to participate, and the asking of the opposing team to join in makes it cross the line.
You cut out this part.Yea, I’m aware of the term, but that’s not what you said. You said he asked players to join him, which is false.
For seven years, Kennedy continued his practice of praying on the field with no issues. But in September 2015, the Bremerton School District learned what he was doing when an opposing team’s coach told Bremerton High School’s principal that Kennedy asked his players to join him for the post-game prayer, saying he “thought it was pretty cool” the district would allow such activity, according to court records
If that’s the only account of him supposedly asking players to join him in the 7 years he was saying a prayer after the game, it’s not very credible. Any student testimony claiming he asked them to join him?You cut out this part.
All it needs is 1 time... and it crosses the line. There were also other incidences.If that’s the only account of him supposedly asking players to join him in the 7 years he was saying a prayer after the game, it’s not very credible. Any student testimony claiming he asked them to join him?
Moon, I'm sure it was a friendly gesture, not meant to pressure them. The lower courts determine the facts, not the SC.If that’s the only account of him supposedly asking players to join him in the 7 years he was saying a prayer after the game, it’s not very credible. Any student testimony claiming he asked them to join him?
Strange how that wasn’t the central issue in the case as it worked it’s way through the courts, so either the claim was found to be not credible or irrelevant.All it needs is 1 time... and it crosses the line. There were also other incidences.
If they’re really conservatives, they’d rule the same way as they would in the current case.Wonders how the conseravtives on the SC would feel if the coach in question was a lifelong satanist and went to 50 yard line after games to light a candle and thank Satan for the win?
True, assuming it happened.Moon, I'm sure it was a friendly gesture, not meant to pressure them. The lower courts determine the facts, not the SC.
Indeed. Look at how long school mandated prayers were practiced before someone challenged it and the court decided it was unconstitutional. No school led prayer has been established legal precedent for decades now.All it needs is 1 time... and it crosses the line. There were also other incidences.
Yup. It's no skin off my nose. My gram always said, it takes all kinds to make this world.I actually have no issue with the coach praying at the game, even though I know he isn't supposed to. As long as my kids aren't forced to join, it's fine by me. Just don't bring it to the classroom.
Field of battle? What a self-important pos.Prayer Coming Back to Public Schools? SCOTUS Hears Case That Would Do Just That
A major Supreme Court case has just finished being heard, and the decision could bring prayer back into U.S. schools.www.westernjournal.com
A high-profile case before the Supreme Court ended Monday with justices appearing to side with a Washington state football coach who was punished for kneeling in prayer at the 50-yard line after games.
Former Bremerton High School assistant coach Joe Kennedy was fired because he would not abandon his post-game prayer. Kennedy then launched a six-year fight that reached the nation’s highest court on Monday.
“I fought and defended the Constitution, and the thought of leaving the field of battle where the guys just played and having to go and hide my faith because it was uncomfortable to somebody — that’s just not America,” the Marine veteran said, according to NPR.
On Monday, attorneys for the two sides argued their case before the court, with appointments to the court made by former President Donald Trump appearing to have a major influence on how the court might rule. Trump appointed Justices Neal Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett to the court, giving conservatives a majority.
When the dust settled Monday, The New York Times summarized the arguments by writing that “Members of the court’s conservative majority indicated that the coach, Joseph A. Kennedy, had a constitutional right to kneel and pray at the 50-yard line after games.”
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Did anyone else think of the fact that no school board member went to a JV football game for 7 years? That's what I call supporting your school! [Not]Indeed. Look at how long school mandated prayers were practiced before someone challenged it and the court decided it was unconstitutional. No school led prayer has been established legal precedent for decades now.
Do I detect a hint of sarcasm there?Did anyone else think of the fact that no school board member went to a JV football game for 7 years? That's what I call supporting your school! [Not]
You would like to think so but for some of the far right religious judges, like Barrett, I doubt that would happen.If they’re really conservatives, they’d rule the same way as they would in the current case.
it would be interesting to allow prayer back in school.....with a Christian prayer and Muslim prayer and a Jewish prayer and a Hindu prayer and Budhist prayer and Joe Shit the Ragman prayer.......an on and on and the kids could just spend their whole day praying......or bitching about how their rights were violated because the 'other' guys got to pray tooPrayer Coming Back to Public Schools? SCOTUS Hears Case That Would Do Just That
A major Supreme Court case has just finished being heard, and the decision could bring prayer back into U.S. schools.www.westernjournal.com
A high-profile case before the Supreme Court ended Monday with justices appearing to side with a Washington state football coach who was punished for kneeling in prayer at the 50-yard line after games.
Former Bremerton High School assistant coach Joe Kennedy was fired because he would not abandon his post-game prayer. Kennedy then launched a six-year fight that reached the nation’s highest court on Monday.
“I fought and defended the Constitution, and the thought of leaving the field of battle where the guys just played and having to go and hide my faith because it was uncomfortable to somebody — that’s just not America,” the Marine veteran said, according to NPR.
On Monday, attorneys for the two sides argued their case before the court, with appointments to the court made by former President Donald Trump appearing to have a major influence on how the court might rule. Trump appointed Justices Neal Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett to the court, giving conservatives a majority.
When the dust settled Monday, The New York Times summarized the arguments by writing that “Members of the court’s conservative majority indicated that the coach, Joseph A. Kennedy, had a constitutional right to kneel and pray at the 50-yard line after games.”
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