Porn should be banned, here’s why

[Logophile]

It is amazing how often "Conservatives" forget history... except every so often when it is convenient, and probably by hypocritical accident.

Ban alcohol... demand was still there, and as such jumpstarted the largest criminal enterprise in this nation at the time.
Ban abortions... demand was still there, went underground, caused a fiasco.
Ban drugs... demand was still there, and as such jumpstarted an international criminal enterprise and coordination unseen in all of human history.
Ban guns... oh wait, can't do that... my amendment rights so "from my cold dead hands."

And now... Ban Porn... as if that will all of a sudden work.

The most asinine, pie in the sky, and delusional OP I've seen in a long time, and that is saying something with some of the CT level nonsense floating around here these days.

I think you make a very cogent argument, and I agree with you except for the part of "delusional OP, nonsense, etc." I don't want any part of the insults but the rest of your post is reasonable. Thanks!!

 

[danielpalos]

It may depend on the ethics and morals employed when watching porn. I practice not judging women by the clothes they may not be wearing on the Internet and try to port it to real life whenever I have the presence of mind to do so. Can any theist do any less?

 

[EMNofSeattle]

I think you make a very cogent argument, and I agree with you except for the part of "delusional OP, nonsense, etc." I don't want any part of the insults but the rest of your post is reasonable. Thanks!!

Illegal abortions were not common pre-roe. And besides abortion is murder and the moral principle is not relevant to numbers.

prohibition was a massive public health victory. The vast majority of the public complied and its verifiable the rates of death from liver disease and alcohol related causes fell through the floor.

 

[Lursa]

Illegal abortions were not common pre-roe.

Source? You're wrong unless you can provide proof of that claim. Not only that, it wasnt even illegal in many states before RvW.

And since it's more immoral to force women to remain pregnant against their will by denying them a safer (than pregn/childbirth) medical procedure...you might as well forget using your opinion on morality as part of your argument.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Source? You're wrong unless you can provide proof of that claim. Not only that, it wasnt even illegal in many states before RvW.

And since it's more immoral to force women to remain pregnant against their will by denying them a safer (than pregn/childbirth) medical procedure...you might as well forget using your opinion on morality as part of your argument.

Death during childbirth is near non existent compared to the past. Abortion is always fatal however.

pregnancy is a natural process, the will is irrelevant to morality. People will evil all the time.

 

[OrphanSlug]

I think you make a very cogent argument, and I agree with you except for the part of "delusional OP, nonsense, etc." I don't want any part of the insults but the rest of your post is reasonable. Thanks!!

What choice do I have? Republicans have quintupled down on the idea that banning something magically removes economic demand for that something.

They are literally looking to cause more socioeconomic harm to this nation with no plausible path to ensure this works in any regard.

I have no choice but to point out their insanity, I cannot be passive about their ignorance.

 

[Lursa]

Death during childbirth is near non existent compared to the past. Abortion is always fatal however.

pregnancy is a natural process, the will is irrelevant to morality. People will evil all the time.

And yet about 1000 women/yr in the US die every year....and 86,000 more nearly do and end up with severe health damage because of it. So thank you for helping to highlight why it's immoral to force that significant risk on women against their will. Only the individual women have the right to decide to take those risks...not your substitute for God's Authority, the govt.

Cancer is natural too. So are birth defects. Let's all just let those things happen to us and others without fighting it. Is fighting those things "evil?"

 

[EMNofSeattle]

And yet about 1000 women/yr in the US die every year....and 86,000 more nearly do and end up with severe health damage because of it. So thank you for helping to highlight why it's immoral to force that significant risk on women against their will.

Cancer is natural too. So are birth defects. Let's all just let those things happen to us and others without fighting it. Is fighting those things "evil?"

Pregnancy is not cancer. This is a category distinction.

I know abortion is your religion so this will not be a productive discussion. You have an entire moral framework built around access to abortion. Your god is identical to Kermit Gosnell.

 

[Lursa]

Pregnancy is not cancer. This is a category distinction.

I know abortion is your religion so this will not be a productive discussion. You have an entire moral framework built around access to abortion. Your god is identical to Kermit Gosnell.

No it's not. Death is death...no woman should be forced to take the significant risks of pregnancy/childbirth against her will when there is safer "treatment" for that. That is immoral to force it on her, and also to try and let the govt act as God's Authority to enforce your personal immoral IMO beliefs.

Your personal attacks dont bother me...you are someone that would allow "authority" to force women to stay pregnant against their will and is part of a cult that allows husbands to rape their wives.

 

[Logophile]

Illegal abortions were not common pre-roe. And besides abortion is murder and the moral principle is not relevant to numbers.

prohibition was a massive public health victory. The vast majority of the public complied and its verifiable the rates of death from liver disease and alcohol related causes fell through the floor.

There is no way to know how many illegal abortions were performed because they were ILLEGAL. Obviously, there was no tally because they weren't reported. I understand you feel strongly about the issue but that doesn't justify a specious argument. And assuming prohibition had some health benefits - probably did - it wasn't lasting because it's hard to control human beings who have been brought up in a free society and then told they are not free to "imbibe." The government gave up on Prohibition for a reason. There was plenty of drinking - all kinds of underground "bars," but no tax revenue to the local, state or federal governments. All the profits were going to folks like Al Capone, who then became a serious competitor with the government. The only way to usurp the power of the Prohibition gangsters was to pull the rug out of the profitability. Thanks!!

 

[Hamish Howl]

Illegal abortions were not common pre-roe.

Are you ever embarrassed about being wrong literally all of the time?

 

[danielpalos]

Only the right wing has a problem with an ounce of prevention being worth a pound of cure. Better contraceptives at lower cost!

 

[Bodi]

there’s a fairly easy way to regulate, just make the executives of ISPs criminally liable for allowing it to be accessed On their networks.
Sure there’s ways around this, but unlike leftists I’m not a utopian, I don’t claim the problem
Will go away, merely that heavy regulation will decrease viewership.

We need to ban everything that is a sin... and alcohol too... and swearing... all prison sentences...

 

[Bodi]

It is amazing how often "Conservatives" forget history... except every so often when it is convenient, and probably by hypocritical accident.

Ban alcohol... demand was still there, and as such jumpstarted the largest criminal enterprise in this nation at the time.
Ban abortions... demand was still there, went underground, caused a fiasco.
Ban drugs... demand was still there, and as such jumpstarted an international criminal enterprise and coordination unseen in all of human history.
Ban guns... oh wait, can't do that... my amendment rights so "from my cold dead hands."

And now... Ban Porn... as if that will all of a sudden work.

The most asinine, pie in the sky, and delusional OP I've seen in a long time, and that is saying something with some of the CT level nonsense floating around here these days.

The demand was still there but it could have been reduced to zero with harsher sentences and morality classes in schools.

 

[Helix]

i'm just checking back in to make sure that the OP voted against politicians who screwed porn stars and then paid them off.

 

[Bodi]

Only the right wing has a problem with an ounce of prevention being worth a pound of cure. Better contraceptives at lower cost!

Contraception should be banned because sex is meant for procreation. Pre-marital and non-male with female procreation sex should be banned as well.

 

[Lursa]

We need to ban everything that is a sin... and alcohol too... and swearing... all prison sentences...

That poster believes in banning sex outside of marriage

In the past, his supposedly "Christian" cult endorsed torturing and killing people that did so. IMO, he may recommend that today too...I know he believes in punishing it.

 

[OrphanSlug]

The demand was still there but it could have been reduced to zero with harsher sentences and morality classes in schools.

Wishful thinking, the US has no good history of dealing with outlawing something that has demand.

Just causes other problems all well documented beyond your pie in the sky thinking.

 

[Lursa]

i'm just checking back in to make sure that the OP voted against politicians who screwed porn stars and then paid them off.

 

[Bodi]

One curious factor might be a stunning statistic I saw. Less than 50% of older teenagers and young adults are in any kind of relationship. The Internet is replacing having a real relationship with a real human.

My Internet/TV/computer/PS3 system identifies as a real human female... and are relationship is as real as any. Her name is Sarah.

 

[Bodi]

Wishful thinking, the US has no good history of dealing with outlawing something that has demand.

Just causes other problems all well documented beyond your pie in the sky thinking.

That is why it is important to start morality classes to the children when they are very young... to teach them what is ok and what is a sin.

 

[Bodi]

That poster believes in banning sex outside of marriage

In the past, his supposedly "Christian" cult endorsed torturing and killing people that did so. IMO, he may recommend that today too...I know he believes in punishing it.

punishing sin is good... torture and killing is a sin... sex outside of marriage is a sin... we are all sinners...

 

[Lursa]

punishing sin is good... torture and killing is a sin... sex outside of marriage is a sin... we are all sinners...

I disagree with the bold. Enjoying sex outside of marriage in no way breaks God's Word of compassion, forgiveness, brotherly love, and peace.

Anything written in the Bible that goes against this Word is BS...intentional or otherwise it is misinterpretation of God's Word by fallible men of the time.

 

[OrphanSlug]

That is why it is important to start morality classes to the children when they are very young... to teach them what is ok and what is a sin.

No, the last thing this world needs is another nation that leans theocratic. We have plenty of Middle East disasters to list as examples of religious authority, in this case our education system.

There is no historical example of this ending well.

 

[danielpalos]

Contraception should be banned because sex is meant for procreation. Pre-marital and non-male with female procreation sex should be banned as well.

Sounds like the subjective value of morals. Our First Amendment applies. Besides, right wingers are supposed to be against Big Government nanny-Statism and for free market Capitalism.