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I am right
Sources? Otherwise, more made up BS.
Sources? Otherwise, more made up BS.
Sources? Otherwise, more made up BS.I am right
Lol nopeIf he says it enough times it becomes reality and a source in itself.
Had to go back 10 posts to find the substance you guys were arguing over to find
Their debates over potential social harm were so hotly contested that the National Organization for Women (NOW) stepped into the fray. Siding with anti-pornography feminists, the organization declared in 1980 that sadomasochism and pornography constituted violence, not sex, and were inherently dangerous.
The Origins of Anti-Pornography Feminism - Fifteen Eighty Four | Cambridge University Press
The singer Rihanna rocketed to the top of the pop charts this spring with her single, S&M, which pays homage to sex accompanied by whips, chains and the intentional infliction of pain. Having just finished the manuscript for my new book, Battling Pornography, I listened with amazement as this...www.cambridgeblog.org
The feminism of the 70s and 80s was very anti porn.
And after 30-40 years, we've noted that's it's developed differently for women.
Unlike some viewpoints and organizations that remain entrenched in the past and refuse to move on, others evolve and move forward. The thread it full of counter-arguments.
Ok and
I wouldnt encourage them to work at McDonalds or Starbucks or the movie theater snack bar either but anything can be a starting point. Not sure why you didnt address where I specifically stated how it can be. I believe in choice.
They don’t agree with me, or school feminists were badYour statement "old school feminist agrees with me" is accurate. Got bored with you two going back and forth 10 times so I provided some evidence you had not.
They don’t agree with me, .......
DId you miss the 'starting point' comment? That means it's fine for young people. The initial sentence referred to general work and yeah, I wouldnt really recommend those as a career. Same for porn (in both cases). What's wrong with porn?Why wouldn't you encourage a young person to start work at McDs or Starbucks? What's wrong with that? Many people start out working at places like that. McDs was my 1st job. You think people are going to get a job as an office executive with no experience or education?
Also, if you have a young female associate (daughter or w/e) and she said she needed money and she has two options, McDs or Porn, you think they are equivlanent? You'd be like, "Hey...either one is an option. If you do the porn let me watch you do your work." Please.
That was a quote of YOUR words "old school feminist agrees with me"
Oh they do agree with me that they needed to brainwash women from the church to make them shun traditionThat was a quote of YOUR words "old school feminist agrees with me"
So pornography is empowerment for women? What about bukake?
Sounds like it empowers men.What about it? Some women are into that. In a society that slut-shames constantly, I'd say a woman choosing to do porn is empowering.
Sounds like it empowers men.
Sounds like it's degrading to women, if they are "slut shamed."Maybe for some men, it feels empowering. Men aren't really slut-shamed, so it's not the same. But hey, if men feel empowered doing porn, good for them.
Sounds like it's degrading to women, if they are "slut shamed."
Submitting to bring objectified by men seems like it would be capitulation to a patriarchyPorn is empowering for women who see it as a rebellion against slut-shaming and patriarchy.
They're doing what men want them to do, it isn't men that "slut shame."They're doing what they want, despite the slut-shaming. They're not letting it bother them.
Submitting to bring objectified by men seems like it would be capitulation to a patriarchy
They're doing what men want them to do, it isn't men that "slut shame."
So if you convince them they want to be enslaved enslavement would be empowering.Not if they want to do it.
Men shame women for being easy? On what planet? They just don't marry them when they're easy, they don't need to, that's what easy means.As long as they want to do it themselves, then it can be empowering. And WTF? Of course men slut-shame. Women do too.
So if you convince them they want to be enslaved enslavement would be empowering.
Men shame women for being easy? On what planet?
Men are cheering for sluts who do you think watches 90% of pornography?
because I don't being a pornstar is a dream job for ladies.You could say that about literally any action.
Why are we assuming that porn stars are being "convinced" to make porn?
Men don't slut shame they slut encourage. Women being easy is the best thing for misogynistic guysThe same men who slut-shame also watch porn. Yes, it's hypocrisy. Sexists are usually hypocrites.
Cheers! LOL, it's men that do the slut-shaming, mostly for control I'd say. It's certainly a double standard...hypocrisy. And it's men that mostly pay for porn...and strip clubs...and hookers.Porn is empowering for women who see it as a rebellion against slut-shaming and patriarchy. They're doing what they want, despite the slut-shaming. They're not letting it bother them.