EpicDude86
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Nobody is saying that anyone should be "entitled" to marriage, I just happen to think that a high unmarried male:female ratio would be a bad thing for society in general, and you don't seem to disagree.
It might be justified if legalized polygamy actually had benefits, but nobody's really argued that it does.
The "you never know until you try" argument could be used for criminalization too, and I don't buy it. If we're going to change our legal code, there should be an actual reason why doing so would be a good thing.
He didn't marry her, so....
He didn't marry her, so....
Something has to be good for us or benefit us to be legal?
See this? This is my problem. Homosexuals are ruining the sanctity of marriage. Plygs would ruin the sanctity of marriage if we let them. Marriage is holy in the eyes of God and thus must be applied according to God's law.
But ****ing the babysitter or your secretary? Having children out of wedlock, or divorcing and remarrying and "raising" your children through Christmas cards? That's all A-OK and if you say otherwise, you're a totalitarian and a prude and even social conservatives will try to tell you to mind your own business.
How is all of this moral degeneracy more acceptable than gays and Muslims having the number and type of spouses allowed to them by their faiths? It is sickening.
Here is the main problem, and why we will probably never agree on such issues as this one.
In my view, the law should not be changed in any way- legalization, criminalization, etc.- unless there is a reason why doing so would be beneficial on the whole.
In your view, which is the libertarian view, the current legal code is of no importance, and all that matters is that everything that does not directly violate the rights of others is legal.
I don't think we can ever come to an agreement here because our assumptions of what laws are don't match. I'm not even sure either of us is wrong or right, we just have different perspectives.
tax laws regarding marriage would need to be revised, for instance.
See this? This is my problem. Homosexuals are ruining the sanctity of marriage. Plygs would ruin the sanctity of marriage if we let them. Marriage is holy in the eyes of God and thus must be applied according to God's law.
But ****ing the babysitter or your secretary? Having children out of wedlock, or divorcing and remarrying and "raising" your children through Christmas cards? That's all A-OK and if you say otherwise, you're a totalitarian and a prude and even social conservatives will try to tell you to mind your own business.
How is all of this moral degeneracy more acceptable than gays and Muslims having the number and type of spouses allowed to them by their faiths? It is sickening.
"Leave it to Beaver"?
However historically polygamy has just been shown as a way of men in small out of society groups taking advantage of vulnerable women.
Girl, 14, fled abuse, 'mind control' of polygamy - CNN.com
For example you really think im gonna run out of examples btw?
Yeah, you will. Because you're only going to have enough examples to cover the incredibly small fraction of polygamists that abuse their relationships.
But go ahead, try and vilify it.
Ok so show me these peaceful polygamous relationships you talk of?
Do away with no-fault divorce? Return to censoring TV for "moral wholesomness"? Back to "Father knows best" and "Leave it to Beaver"?
The reason this is brought up in the Gay Marriage threads is obvious as is the poll. If you break down the core of Marriage, you invite such to occur. The refrain of "There is no connection between the two, you're just being a hyper partisan" ring hollow in the face of the truth, and that simple truth is that allowing gay marriage will lead to polygamy. Hell Obama's got Czar's in the WH that are pushing for such.
I think it's a terrible thing to watch, society corroding like this.
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