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Now GOP has backed off touching medicare! Could a told ya!
Why is there never anything about farm subsidies? Why is it so politically unfavorable to cut them?
Now GOP has backed off touching medicare! Could a told ya!
Look, the President put a sound commission together, and they came up with a plan. One that would work btw. So why isn't Obama instituting that?
It was HIS commission!
j-mac
yeah, going to be interesting to see how Boo tries to spin that one into them still not being willing to seriously compromise.
but if we can get through major parts of the Ryan plan in return for the debt-ceiling; that's a good trade, and it achieves these goals 2 years earlier than we thought we were going to.
why? are you saying that people do not have to have food?
indeed, and we give medicaid to the same people.
actually food in general is available at historically cheap prices - we spend less of our income feeding ourselves now than at any other point in human history. because we have allowed it to be sold and purchased on the free market. other countries have not done this - and the result is usually mass starvation.
really? i can just opt out and say that Obamacare doesn't apply to me? well hot dog - where do i get the forms? there are going to be some governors that are going to be very excited to hear about this.
i dont always agree with them - and I don't always agree with scalia. but i know that if you put an argument as blatantly stupid as the one this woman made in front of him, he's going to land on it like a 2,000 lb bomb.
No we have a working poor who do not get meidcaid but cannot afford medical care
this has been shown to you before
food is cheaper for a lot of reasons
Now that was a silly response
uva study cited by asa shows americans with NO INSURANCE fare better (shorter stays, lower costs, lower mortalities) than their neighbors on medicaid
ASA: ASA 130th Annual Meeting Abstracts - Primary Payer Status Affects Mortality For Major Surgical Operations
LOL!
World Food Prices Rise to Near-Record High as Inflation Speeds Up, UN Says - Bloomberg
says the serious chin stroker who cites news from AUSTRALIA in a discussion of teacher retention in new york city
rising doesn't mean they aren't cheaper in comaprison
Unadjusted mortality for Medicare, Medicaid and Uninsured patient groups were higher compared to Private Insurance groups. Moreover, mortality was lowest for Private Insurance patients independent of operation. Importantly, after controlling for age, gender, income, geographic region, operation, and 30 comorbid conditions, Medicaid payer status was associated with the longest length of stay and highest total costs.
Medicaid was further associated with the greatest adjusted length of stay and total costs despite risk factors or operation. Possible explanations include delays in access to care or disparate differences in health maintenance
So, being forced by popular opinion means they're willing to compromise?
:lol:
and, pray tell, what popular opinion 'forced' them to drop medicare reform for the debt ceiling debate?
popular opinion only "forces" one thing - elections. other than that, congresscritters are free to run all over popular opinion, as we saw with Obamacare.
People don't want their medicare touched.
that's correct they don't; however, that isn't an option - and so the competition is now over how we are to touch medicare. The Ryan planned slightly behind with national adults, but slightly above with everyone over the age of 30. that's not "public pressure forcing them to abandon entitlement reform". we're not talking about the individual mandate here (if public pressure really "forced" anyone to give up on a policy, surely that would be the first to go).
boehner, today: republicans will not vote to raise debt ceiling without trillions of dollars in cuts
Boehner optimistic, demands trillion-dollar cuts | Reuters
exactly. this is a debt-ceiling deal.
Hmmm, so if republicans get trillions in cuts, why would there be a need to raise the debt ceiling?
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