Police Say 6 Dead, at Least 9 Injured in Sacramento Shooting

[Roadvirus]

well California is a wet dream for the anti gun left in terms of stupid gun laws. but then again, those gun laws are only faux solutions to crime and are not really intended to stop this sort of nastiness.

California gun laws hurt law-abiding gun owners 10x more then it does criminals.

 

[MaryP]

We are a civilized nation. We are not Taliban-run Afghanistan.

There's nothing civilized about mass shootings every day.

 

[Roadvirus]

There's nothing civilized about mass shootings every day.

And hacking off someone's "shooting arm" IS civilized?!

How about going after the causes of the problem:
Bad parenting.
Mental issues being ignored.
Gangs being allowed to go unchecked.

 

[MaryP]

And hacking off someone's "shooting arm" IS civilized?!

How about going after the causes of the problem:
Bad parenting.
Mental issues being ignored.
Gangs being allowed to go unchecked.

Because no one ever does anything about it. We've been talking for years.
Of course we're not going to cut off people's shooting arm, but it would work, I bet.

 

[Moon]

There's nothing civilized about mass shootings every day.

I agree. I’d be willing to bet that most, if not all of the people involved in the shooting have multiple convictions already, and yet are out roaming the streets.

 

[Lutherf]

Because no one ever does anything about it. We've been talking for years.
Of course we're not going to cut off people's shooting arm, but it would work, I bet.

No, it wouldn't.

The VAST majority of non-suicide shootings are either related parties or youth involved in criminal activity. The related party shootings tend to be heat of the moment stuff and the criminal activities shootings will occur no matter what the laws are.

Liberal policies have managed to create a mindset in various urban areas where youth believe that they are permanent victims of "the system", will never get ahead and have no choice but to engage in criminal acts. Throw in a healthy does of daily doom and gloom from our politicians and you have a situation where life in general has no value to a whole lot of people.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

The percentage of guns in a country is directly proportional to the number of shootings it has.

It’s a funny world we live in when a statement this obvious is considered controversial.

Well given the left is talking about their political enemies in pre-genocidal terms, some of the leftist beliefs about their political opponents could’ve been scripted into Hotel Rwanda it’s clear mass ownership of firearms is the only reason Mao level political violence has not yet occurred, so even if that is true, the payoff is worth it.

 

[Paradoxical]

They've arrested one guy, but he was not a shooter. Related to the episode in some way--driving the car, maybe? Involved in the fight? Hopefully, they can get this guy to share whatever he knows. It would be awful if the multiple shooters here get away with it. 18 people shot because these yahoos were having a bad hair day.

He is black. Whooda thunk? Either he is innocent or he was kidnapped by white thugs and threatened if he didn't join in.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Irrelevant distinction.

It’s very relevant, your argument is implicitly based on the idea that guns deaths are bad and all equally so, which is not correct, suicides are bad, but the left who wants to ban guns are also fully in favor of doctors murdering their patients under the guise of “assisted suicide” or “death with dignity”. So it’s clear that whatever the moral issues are with suicide, you don’t actually believe that should be prevented and hence this is a bad faith argument, also some gun deaths are morally good, like the deaths of serial child rapist Joseph Rosenbaum in an act of self defense by the hero Kyle Rittenhouse. Or the state of Utah which uses firing squads to execute those convicted of serious crimes, so in fact it is very relevant what the circumstances of a gun death are.

Fake standard.

No

False equivalency.

No

Really hitting it out of the park there, ttwt!

It’s really wierd you’re entirely making political arguments, but reject political rebuttals

 

[Paradoxical]

California gun laws hurt law-abiding gun owners 10x more then it does criminals.

Kalifornia had a law that said if you use a gun, you're done. Liberals got ioyt changed so that a judge can use his discretion.

Why? Because too many black people were in jail for using a gun, The suspect here is black. Maybe he'll get 10 years of "hard" time with his pals, and out in 5?

 

[Maidenrules29]

Amend the amendment.

That will never happen.

 

[Maidenrules29]

The bill was the assault weapons ban that prohibited the manufacture, transfer, or possession of a semiautomatic assault weapon. One of the most-cited studies on the effectiveness of the ban found that the number of gun crimes involving automatic weapons dropped by 17% in the six cities involved in the study during the ban.

Which is it? Automatic weapons or semi-automatic? I can tell you right now that automatic weapons are not a part of that study. A typo perhaps?

 

[Maidenrules29]

involving automatic weapons

Automatic weapons? Do you even know WTF you are talking about?

 

[Maidenrules29]

We are a civilized nation. We are not Taliban-run Afghanistan.

How do we get through to these criminals then?

 

[VanceMack]

Well given the left is talking about their political enemies in pre-genocidal terms, some of the leftist beliefs about their political opponents could’ve been scripted into Hotel Rwanda it’s clear mass ownership of firearms is the only reason Mao level political violence has not yet occurred, so even if that is true, the payoff is worth it.

You kind of have to give kudos to the leftists though. I mean...they are a bunch of effete bitches but to their credit they know enough to gather and commit acts of violence only in their leftist safe havens.

 

[VanceMack]

How do we get through to these criminals then?

Hugs. The left needs to send in an army of social workers augmented by the idiot left that thinks its not the poor dears fault and that they only commit acts of violence because of those mean old guns, to give out hugs.

 

[Ethel2]

Because no one ever does anything about it. We've been talking for years.
Of course we're not going to cut off people's shooting arm, but it would work, I bet.

Nah
The hoodlums would just learn to use the other arm.
The major problem is lack of regulation of high capacity firearms. No one needs an Uzi to go duck hunting. And it’s ridiculous to think that you can defend yourself against “the government “ with one weapon. If your intention is to defend yourself you will need to practice shooting. I have gone to the firing range a few times and it’s not easy to shoot your target. You need to practice regularly to be good at it. I have two brothers who own guns and they almost never practice shooting.
A lot of good those firearms will do them in an emergency for defense, locked up in a gun cabinet with the bullets secured elsewhere.

 

[Chillfolks]

Cut off their shooting arm. That would help.

Little harsh, just take a finger or two

 

[TurtleDude]

California gun laws hurt law-abiding gun owners 10x more then it does criminals.

which is the intent of those who push and pass those laws

 

[TurtleDude]

Nah
The hoodlums would just learn to use the other arm.
The major problem is lack of regulation of high capacity firearms. No one needs an Uzi to go duck hunting. And it’s ridiculous to think that you can defend yourself against “the government “ with one weapon. If your intention is to defend yourself you will need to practice shooting. I have gone to the firing range a few times and it’s not easy to shoot your target. You need to practice regularly to be good at it.

good God what stupidity. No one hunts ducks with an Uzi-and you cannot play golf with a ping pong paddle. That is not an argument against owning ping pong paddles. What is a "high capacity firearm"? if civilian police have them for self defense -so should other civilians

 

[MaryP]

Little harsh, just take a finger or two

Trigger finger and thumb might do it.

 

[TurtleDude]

Automatic weapons? Do you even know WTF you are talking about?

I will take NO for Two Thousand, Alex

 

[Arlette]

Gee. Thoughts and prayers?

 

[Chillfolks]

Trigger finger and thumb might do it.

Much easier probably an outpatient procedure. Plus you see someone without those digits then you know to be extra vigilant around them. It’s a public safety issue.

 

[Common Sense 1]

Sandy Hook normalized this. Just another day in America.

No it did not. Sandy Hook was a massacre of innocent. Carried out by a murderous maniac. Who killed his mother stole her gun and went on a insane killing spree.
Nothing normal about that!