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Police: Child found in submerged luggage may have been raped

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(CNN) -- A Sunday school teacher accused of killing a Tracy, California girl may also have raped the 8-year-old, authorities say.

Melissa Huckaby, expected to be arraigned Tuesday at 4 p.m. ET in the death of Sandra Cantu, will face additional charges, including rape, police told CNN.

"When she was booked, she was booked on charges of kidnapping and murder," Tracy Police Sgt. Tony Sheneman said on "Larry King Live" on Monday night. "And we're informed by the district attorney that she'll be charged with abduction, murder, rape with a foreign object and lewd and lascivious acts with a child."

Police: Child found in submerged luggage may have been raped - CNN.com

I read this kind of stuff, and it makes me want to vomit. I just cannot stand to think of what this little girl (8 years old) went through before she was killed. Rape with a foreign object? WTF is the matter with people.
 
How does one rape, without using a foreign object?
 
face of an angel. RIP

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I guess I am thinking form the perspective of the raped, and not the raper. Everything is a foreign object to the one being raped.
My sister says "rape with a foreign object" indicates it was not a physiological rape.

My God :shock:
 
You know, that's a hell of a lot worse than I figured it was when I heard that Ms. Huckaby had a criminal record and history of mental illness. It's certainly a hell of a lot worse than a couple of petty theft beefs.

What was going on in this woman's head?
 
I read this kind of stuff, and it makes me want to vomit. I just cannot stand to think of what this little girl (8 years old) went through before she was killed. Rape with a foreign object? WTF is the matter with people.
Rape with a foreign object is not possible.

This is called sexual assault.
 
My sister says "rape with a foreign object" indicates it was not a physiological rape.

My God :shock:

Yup. That just f--ing sickens me. This woman put an inanimate object in this 8-year-old's vagina. Apparently, she's on a suicide watch. She better not be able to commit suicide. I want her to have to suffer the consequences of her disgusting actions.
 
Rape with a foreign object is not possible.

This is called sexual assault.

I took that straight from the article. Why is it not possible?
 
Hello...I wish I could stop thinking about this horror...but for a number of reasons, I just can't...the first being that I happened to look a great deal like Sandra when I was a little girl...

But what I want to talk about now is Melissa Huckaby. That what I suspect is that she herself was the victim of some kind of heinous abuse, minus of course, the fact of being murdered.

This abuse may have occured during her childhood at the hands of a trusted family member or other caregiver adult. Or it may have occured at the hands of her ex-husband or other significant male relationship. So why was Melissa Huckaby crying?

Because, contrary to what at least one MSNBC profiler stated, I believe Melissa Huckaby is not a psychopath. She is not a sociopath devoid of all conscience or feeling. I believe she was instead herself a victim, perhaps long ago, but unlike abuse survivors who do find healing, I believe Melissa kept her horror entirely locked inside. She did not tell a soul.

But the secret eventually began to bubble over. She engaged in petty theft as a means of acting out, and as a means of distracting herself from the root of the ugliness that was haunting and simmering inside her. When petty crimes no longer served their numbing purpose, she began to be overtaken by the most unthinkably evil thoughts. She probably felt like she wasn't at all in control of those thoughts. Like they had a life all of their own.

And because she never confided any or all of this to mental health professionals, the sickness inside her grew, and it grew stronger. It was like a drug to her, a drug that wholly numbed her, so that by the time she did what she did to Sandra, she was very, very far away from what the rest of us know to be Reality.

I sense these things about Melissa Huckaby because I have been through a great deal of trauma in my own life, and yet the one form of trauma I did *not* endure was sexual abuse. For example, as a child, I lost my beloved grandmother to alcoholism and my beloved father to alcohol-induced abandonment of me.

Alcoholism and abandonment played themselves out dramatically in my early adult life to the point that I nearly drank myself to death. I was fortunate, however, to get into alcoholism recovery when still young, then into talking therapy to address the post-traumatic stress disorder I'd developed along the way, and also psychiatry to treat depression. And I always talked to qualified therapists. I always asked for help, every month, every year, so that I could finally and fully begin to heal.

My sense of Melissa Huckaby is that she did not reach out in this way. Or maybe she tried to, but her family refused to listen or support her, perhaps believing instead that Christ heals all and saves all sinners who confess. Well, sometimes it isn't that simple. Sometimes trauma severs a person to the extent that they can't find the Light anymore.

This is not *ever* to excuse the monstrosity that Melissa Huckaby committed against Beautiful Sandra. Because I know that every one of us in the United States has an immense wealth of emergency and ongoing mental health resources available to us should we only ask for the help.

And because I have not stopped trembling for days imagining the terror and agony that precious Sandra had to endure until she died...

But, at the same time, I feel like it just isn't enough to simply call Melissa Huckaby a Monster. If we want to prevent this from ever happening to another child again, we need to know what happened to Melissa. What made her do this. What in her memory drove her to snap in this unthinkably, monstrously brutal way.

And we need to bring the nightmare of childhood sexual abuse out into the open so its victims can be acknowledged, validated, supported, and assisted in the process of healing. Because I do believe that all to often, victims do become the perpetrators.

I hope you all don't hate me for what I've written here. This may not have been the forum for me to initiate such a dialogue.

All of this said, Sandra was precious and beautiful beyond what my words can express.

And as for Melissa Huckaby, it is of course too late for her. I understand she cannot be rehabilitated. But she could have stopped herself. She could have asked for help. But she cloaked herself in false faith and denied the monster that was waking up inside her.

She could have spared Sandra. That is why this matters.
 
Hello...I wish I could stop thinking about this horror...but for a number of reasons, I just can't...the first being that I happened to look a great deal like Sandra when I was a little girl...

But what I want to talk about now is Melissa Huckaby. That what I suspect is that she herself was the victim of some kind of heinous abuse, minus of course, the fact of being murdered.

This abuse may have occured during her childhood at the hands of a trusted family member or other caregiver adult. Or it may have occured at the hands of her ex-husband or other significant male relationship. So why was Melissa Huckaby crying?

Because, contrary to what at least one MSNBC profiler stated, I believe Melissa Huckaby is not a psychopath. She is not a sociopath devoid of all conscience or feeling. I believe she was instead herself a victim, perhaps long ago, but unlike abuse survivors who do find healing, I believe Melissa kept her horror entirely locked inside. She did not tell a soul.

But the secret eventually began to bubble over. She engaged in petty theft as a means of acting out, and as a means of distracting herself from the root of the ugliness that was haunting and simmering inside her. When petty crimes no longer served their numbing purpose, she began to be overtaken by the most unthinkably evil thoughts. She probably felt like she wasn't at all in control of those thoughts. Like they had a life all of their own.

And because she never confided any or all of this to mental health professionals, the sickness inside her grew, and it grew stronger. It was like a drug to her, a drug that wholly numbed her, so that by the time she did what she did to Sandra, she was very, very far away from what the rest of us know to be Reality.

I sense these things about Melissa Huckaby because I have been through a great deal of trauma in my own life, and yet the one form of trauma I did *not* endure was sexual abuse. For example, as a child, I lost my beloved grandmother to alcoholism and my beloved father to alcohol-induced abandonment of me.

Alcoholism and abandonment played themselves out dramatically in my early adult life to the point that I nearly drank myself to death. I was fortunate, however, to get into alcoholism recovery when still young, then into talking therapy to address the post-traumatic stress disorder I'd developed along the way, and also psychiatry to treat depression. And I always talked to qualified therapists. I always asked for help, every month, every year, so that I could finally and fully begin to heal.

My sense of Melissa Huckaby is that she did not reach out in this way. Or maybe she tried to, but her family refused to listen or support her, perhaps believing instead that Christ heals all and saves all sinners who confess. Well, sometimes it isn't that simple. Sometimes trauma severs a person to the extent that they can't find the Light anymore.

This is not *ever* to excuse the monstrosity that Melissa Huckaby committed against Beautiful Sandra. Because I know that every one of us in the United States has an immense wealth of emergency and ongoing mental health resources available to us should we only ask for the help.

And because I have not stopped trembling for days imagining the terror and agony that precious Sandra had to endure until she died...

But, at the same time, I feel like it just isn't enough to simply call Melissa Huckaby a Monster. If we want to prevent this from ever happening to another child again, we need to know what happened to Melissa. What made her do this. What in her memory drove her to snap in this unthinkably, monstrously brutal way.

And we need to bring the nightmare of childhood sexual abuse out into the open so its victims can be acknowledged, validated, supported, and assisted in the process of healing. Because I do believe that all to often, victims do become the perpetrators.

I hope you all don't hate me for what I've written here. This may not have been the forum for me to initiate such a dialogue.

All of this said, Sandra was precious and beautiful beyond what my words can express.

And as for Melissa Huckaby, it is of course too late for her. I understand she cannot be rehabilitated. But she could have stopped herself. She could have asked for help. But she cloaked herself in false faith and denied the monster that was waking up inside her.

She could have spared Sandra. That is why this matters.

I definitely appreciate your input here, and like seeing someone who is as disturbed as I am with this whole thing. I also appreciate your candidness with respect to your own life. Thank you. To me, you haven't said anything inappropriate.

I honestly don't believe that even if Melissa was sexually abused as a child that such causes that person to have the capacity to KILL someone. Sure, a person who was sexually abused is likely to sexually abuse others. I don't buy that a person who was sexually abused is likely to kill someone. No way. But you make some good points. You didn't mention this, but I read that Melissa voluntarily went to the police to provide information. To me, that says she has a conscience, which a sociopath normally does not have. So you may be right that she isn't a sociopath.

It will be interesting to see what we find out about Melissa.

As for you, again, thank you for your openness. It sounds like you have really grown from your past trauma, and your empathy for the situation is admirable.

Welcome to Debate Politics. :2wave:
 
Thanks for the welcome, and yes I do agree with you. Being abused at any point in one's life does not in and of itself provide all of the ingredients required to make someone a murderer.

For example, I put myself in some seriously dangerous, insidious, abusive situations as a young adult when I was living in New York City and was in the thick of my alcoholism. When I emerged from that year, I was little more than a post-traumatic stress-disordered shell of a human being.

I walked away from all of that. I got sober. I got therapy. Then I experienced a abruptly failed marriage when I was the new mother of an infant who progressively developed severe autism and epilepsy despite my having done everything in my power to have a healthy pregnancy and birth experience. Life was thus not proceeding very happily for me and I became rather angry at the Universe.

Having struggled with depression, anxiety, borderline personality disorder and social phobia as a young teenager, and, as a young adult, having been through several years of grave dangers, stresses, shattered hopes, and then, worsening illnesses of my beautiful baby, I think I was the perfect candidate for an all-out violent breakdown. Certainly, committing suicide did cross my mind at times. But NEVER did harming another human being, let alone murdering anyone, seem like the right thing to do. And I Thank God for that.

I guess I can't fathom how a person wakes up one morning so shattered inside and so numb and so full of rage that they could begin to perpetrate the unimaginable horror that Sandra endured.

But I do know that I can take a lesson from this tragedy. I am not so high and mighty that I cannot humble myself enough to say what can I learn from Melissa Huckaby today? I can learn that I must pay daily attention to my own thoughts and ever route them towards the positive and life-affirming. I can learn I must be ever more gentle and patient with my own two sons, and that I must also be gentle with the lonely inner child inside of me, as well as that young woman within who lived through some very ugly things. I can learn that on those days when I feel weak and lost and meaningless, I must find a means to reconnect with the Universe, with Love, with Hope, and Grace. Gradually, some semblance of wholeness begins to emerge.

Thanks again for your kind welcome. And as I may not be very good about participating in this List on a consistent basis, I'll leave my email address with you here: hillary.hays@yahoo.com
 
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I took that straight from the article. Why is it not possible?

The legal definition of rape is unwanted vaginal penetration by the penis.

Any other object.. fingers, tongue, the end of a cane (I took a report like that once) is a sexual assault. Still has similar punishment guidelines though.
 
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just seems weird that this is her first two posts, and they are long and minimizing what was done by putting in Melissa is probably a victim too
but hey, i admit it, I am cynical
 
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The legal definition of rape is unwanted vaginal penetration by the penis.

Any other object.. fingers, tongue, the end of a cane (I took a report like that once) is a sexual assault. Still has similar punishment guidelines though.

Ahhh, interesting. Thanks for the info. The end of a cane. Disgusting. Can I ask what happened in that case?
 
Ahhh, interesting. Thanks for the info. The end of a cane. Disgusting. Can I ask what happened in that case?

Nothing I think.
Im pretty certain the DAs didn't prosecute since it wasn't on camera and all........ (if you can't tell, I don't like our DAs office)
 
I think this woman is involved with some kind of cult and that she is covering up for who really commited this crime:(

She does not fit any kind of profile, less the fact that the creepy pastor (her grandfather) took her in when she needed some help. Hello..
 
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You know, that's a hell of a lot worse than I figured it was when I heard that Ms. Huckaby had a criminal record and history of mental illness. It's certainly a hell of a lot worse than a couple of petty theft beefs.

What was going on in this woman's head?


I feel she has been brainwashed the way only X-ians can seem to brainwash their sheep. :3oops:
 
She was tied to another missing girl case.

A Tracy police report has tied 28-year-old Melissa Huckaby, the suspect in the kidnapping and murder of eight-year-old Sandra Cantu, to another missing girl case in January, and Huckaby acknowledged in a CBS interview that she was with the girl during the time she was reported missing.

According to the police documents, a family who resides in the Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park reported at 5:17 p.m. that their seven-year-old daughter had been missing for four hours on the afternoon of January 17. Police arrived quickly and reportedly discovered at 5:31 p.m. that she was with Melissa Huckaby at the park.

When Huckaby found out the girl's family was worried, she returned the girl to her mother at about 5:43 p.m., and police soon left the scene without making any arrests.

Huckaby Admitted Ties To Jan. Missing Girl Case - cbs13.com
 
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