Planned Parenthood silent on how it’s worked to ‘examine’ Margaret Sanger's eugenicist past

[Schism]

Planned Parenthood silent on how it’s worked to ‘examine’ Margaret Sanger's eugenicist past

More than one year ago, Planned Parenthood disavowed its co-founder Margaret Sanger over her racist and eugenicist views, saying it will "no longer make excuses or apologize" for her influence on society.

"But we can’t simply call her racist, scrub her from our history, and move on," Planned Parenthood President and CEO Alexis McGill Johnson wrote in a New York Times op-ed on April 17, 2021. "We must examine how we have perpetuated her harms over the last century — as an organization, an institution, and as individuals."

Sanger, who helped found the organization as a birth control clinic in 1916 Brooklyn, has been a thorn in the side of abortion advocates for years because of her support for the then-popular eugenics movement of the 1920s and 1930s, which promoted selective breeding that often targeted people of color and the disabled.

In 1921, Sanger wrote that "the most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective." She also spoke to the women’s auxiliary of the Ku Klux Klan at a rally in New Jersey and supported the Supreme Court’s 1927 decision in Buck v. Bell, which allowed states to forcibly sterilize people deemed "unfit" by the government.

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[Slartibartfast]

PP was incorrect in thinking that long dead people should matter to a modern organization.

 

[EdwinWillers]

In before the tide of Sanger apologists arrive to spread their propaganda about what a saint she was.

 

[LouC]

In before the tide of Sanger apologists arrive to spread their propaganda about what a saint she was.

I can honestly say that in my 65 plus years of living I have never ever seen or heard anyone claim that MS was a saint and or was in any way saintly.

Oh, I have seen copious amounts of talk and the written word condemning her as all sorts of the most vile evil person to have ever lived. There has been lots of that.

But a saint, nope, never.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Yeah the woman was a monster.

Now what needs to be explained is where the current version of planned parenthood supports eugenics.

And some argument about this or that demographic getting more abortion s than some other demographic doesn’t work as that argument since nobody is forcing people to undergo those procedures. A requirement of eugenics is that something like abortion is involuntary.

 

[Schism]

Yeah the woman was a monster.

Now what needs to be explained is where the current version of planned parenthood supports eugenics.

And some argument about this or that demographic getting more abortion s than some other demographic doesn’t work as that argument since nobody is forcing people to undergo those procedures. A requirement of eugenics is that something like abortion is involuntary.

It hasn't changed all that much. This is from PBS:

Black and Hispanic people have the most to lose if Roe is overturned

When it comes to the effect on minorities, the numbers are unambiguous. In Mississippi, people of color comprise 44 percent of the population but 81 percent of women receiving abortions, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation, which tracks health statistics.

In Texas, they’re 59 percent of the population and 74 percent of those receiving abortions. The numbers in Alabama are 35 percent and 69 percent. In Louisiana, minorities represent 42 percent of the population, according to the state Health Department, and about 72 percent of those receiving abortions.

 

[Far right dem]

She was definitely a crazy prolifer

 

[TheParser]

Some people (including me) who have read about Ms. Sanger will always be grateful to her for her heroic struggles to make family planning legal.

Thanks to her, women could decide how many children they wanted.

 

[LouC]

It hasn't changed all that much. This is from PBS:

Black and Hispanic people have the most to lose if Roe is overturned

The irony!

 

[Slartibartfast]

It hasn't changed all that much. This is from PBS:

Black and Hispanic people have the most to lose if Roe is overturned

Yup, that’s not eugenics. Eugenics is forced and these people are making a choice.

 

[KingLeo]

Sangers views on race and euthenics was pretty much the normal for a white person in the early 1900s in a very racist US. But that is not really what she should be remembered for.
What she started in terms of quality birth control for women was revolutionary at the time and even illegal in the US. Sanger was arrested multiple times for teaching women of all races about birth control. The majority of her work was with poor white and minority women. And Planned Parenthood grew out of her work.

 

[TypicalRussian]

She also did it to target Catholics as she called Rome a dictatorship of celibates

 

[Deuce]

In before the tide of Sanger apologists arrive to spread their propaganda about what a saint she was.

What the **** are you talking about?

 

[Deuce]

Yup, that’s not eugenics. Eugenics is forced and these people are making a choice.

Conservatives don't approve of choice though!

 

[aociswundumho]

Sangers views on race and euthenics was pretty much the normal for a white person in the early 1900s in a very racist US.

No, it was normal for white progressives, and still is, although today they are much better at hiding it.

 

[Schism]

Yup, that’s not eugenics. Eugenics is forced and these people are making a choice.

You mean 60 years of Democrats ruling the inner cities has had no impact on breaking the cycles of poverty, drug abuse, prostitution, welfare, broken education system and pregnant teens?

Yeah, it's eugenics by the 'all hope is lost' and 'no way out' mentality, and it's all "because racism".

 

[aociswundumho]

Yeah the woman was a monster.

Now what needs to be explained is where the current version of planned parenthood supports eugenics.

And some argument about this or that demographic getting more abortion s than some other demographic doesn’t work as that argument since nobody is forcing people to undergo those procedures. A requirement of eugenics is that something like abortion is involuntary.

White progressives like Sanger did get compulsory sterilization laws passed in many states, and the most forced sterilizations took place in progressive California:

Eugenics in California is a notable part of eugenics in America. As an early leading force in the field of eugenics, California became the third state in the United States to enact a sterilization law. By 1921, California had accounted for 80% of sterilizations nationwide. This continued until the Civil Rights Movement, when widespread critiques against society's "total institutions" dismantled popular acceptance for the state's forced sterilizations.[3] There were an estimated 20,000 forced sterilizations in California between 1909 and 1979; however, that number may be an underestimation.[4][5] In 2021, California enacted a reparations program to compensate the hundreds of still living victims from its eugenics program.[6]

Eugenics in California - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Forced sterilization was held constitutional by the supreme court in buck v bell, and the decision was written by progressive hero Oliver Wendell Holmes.

Eugenics is part of the progressive ideology. Sanger was a white progressive who believed in eugenics and targeted blacks for birth control because she believed they were an inferior race.

 

[vegas giants]

You mean 60 years of Democrats ruling the inner cities has had no impact on breaking the cycles of poverty, drug abuse, prostitution, welfare, broken education system and pregnant teens?

Yeah, it's eugenics by the 'all hope is lost' and 'no way out' mentality, and it's all "because racism".

60 years and you guys were weak and powerless????


Hahaha

 

[KingLeo]

No, it was normal for white progressives, and still is, although today they are much better at hiding it.

You're not a big student of history and reality I see.

 

[Nickyjo]

I am shocked, shocked I tell you, that a leader who did some good also had objectionable beliefs. Next you'll be telling me that Jefferson fooled around with an enslaved black woman.

 

[pocket aces]

60 years and you guys were weak and powerless????


Hahaha

They are too stupid to get anything done, yet want people to vote for them.

 

[Slartibartfast]

White progressives like Sanger did get compulsory sterilization laws passed in many states, and the most forced sterilizations took place in progressive California:



Forced sterilization was held constitutional by the supreme court in buck v bell, and the decision was written by progressive hero Oliver Wendell Holmes.

Eugenics is part of the progressive ideology. Sanger was a white progressive who believed in eugenics and targeted blacks for birth control because she believed they were an inferior race.

Good thing she is dead and the progressives moved on then. There were a lot of stupid ideas in the past that society learned not to do anymore.

 

[Slartibartfast]

You mean 60 years of Democrats ruling the inner cities has had no impact on breaking the cycles of poverty, drug abuse, prostitution, welfare, broken education system and pregnant teens?

Yeah, it's eugenics by the 'all hope is lost' and 'no way out' mentality, and it's all "because racism".

That was quite a pivot to another topic combined with misuse of the definition of eugenics! Impressive bit of propaganda here!

However there are two problems with your assertion:

One thing that has never been proven on this forum is that liberals cause inner city suffering, only that there is correlation. It is more likely that the same density that can cause inner city blight also causes liberalism and that the two things appear in the same region but because of the same causal factors.

The second thing is that you are totally ignoring rural blight, meth use, the fact that small towns are depopulating and are turning into waste lands, which is also impacting child birthing numbers (including abortions). I guess American society as a whole is genociding itself then.

 

[redbeer]

It hasn't changed all that much. This is from PBS:

Black and Hispanic people have the most to lose if Roe is overturned

Those statistics clearly show a deliberate racist attack upon a minority of citizens of our country.....pathetic.

 

[aociswundumho]

However there are two problems with your assertion:

One thing that has never been proven on this forum is that liberals cause inner city suffering, only that there is correlation. It is more likely that the same density that can cause inner city blight also causes liberalism and that the two things appear in the same region but because of the same causal factors.

Progressive policies are terrible for the poor. Here are three for starters:

1. A price floor on wages literally makes it illegal for businesses to hire low-skilled workers, thus creating artificial unemployment.

2. Occupational licensing laws set up labor cartels which put up huge barriers for poor people to start businesses.

3. Progressive housing policies severely reduce the housing supply, therefore forcing poor people to pay a large part of their income on rent.