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Peter Coyote, on protesting

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Peter Coyote, on protest:

"I’m watching the Los Angeles reaction to ICE raids with trepidation and regret.
Three years ago I taught a class at Harvard on the “theater of protest”— designed to help people understand why so many protests turn out to be Republican campaign videos working directly against the interests of the original protest.
A protest is an invitation to a better world.
It’s a ceremony.
No one accepts a ceremonial invitation when they’re being screamed at.

More important you have to know who the real audience of the protest is.
The audience is NEVER the police, the politicians, the Board of supervisors, Congress,etc.
The audience is always the American people, who are trying to decide who they can trust; who will not embarrass them.
If you win them, you win power at the box office and power to make positive change.
Everything else is a waste.

There are a few ways to get there:

1. Let women organize the event. They’re more collaborative. They’re more inclusive, and they don’t generally bring the undertones of violence men do.
2 Appoint monitors, give them yellow, vests and whistles. At the first sign of violence, they blow the whistles and the real protester sit down.
Let the police take out their aggression on the anarchists and the provocateurs trying to discredit the movement.
3. Dress like you’re going to church. It’s hard to be painted as a hoodlum when you’re dressed in clean, presentable clothes.
They don’t have to be fancy they just signal the respect for the occasion that you want to transmit to the audience.
4. Make your protest silent. Demonstrate your discipline to the American people. Let signs do the talking.
5. Go home at night. In the dark, you can’t tell the cops from the killers. Come back at dawn fresh and rested.
I have great fear that Trump’s staging with the National Guard and maybe the Marines is designed to clash with anarchists who are playing into his hands and offering him the opportunity to declare an insurrection.
It’s such a waste and it’s only because we haven’t thought things through strategically.

Nothing I thought of is particularly original.
It was all learned by watching the early civil rights protests in the 50s and 60s.
And it was the discipline and courage of African-Americans that drew such a clear line in the American sand that people were forced to take sides and that produced the civil rights act.
The American people are watching and once again if we behave in ways that can be misinterpreted, we’ll see this explained to the public in Republican campaign videos benefiting the very people who started this.

Wake up.
Vent at home.
In public practice discipline and self control.
It takes much more courage."

Note: Carry an American flag. As the administration creates a fake emergency to justify a state crackdown, it's important to honor the values and vision of democracy for which we're advocating.
When the Enquirer came for pics back in 2017, I smiled a big toothy grin and held a big flag as it felt so empowering and good to stand with my adult daughter, pastors, Franciscans, nuns, kids, parents, grandparents and some women from our women's groups for the values we tried to pass on.
After the protest, we sang and marched to a church where we heard poignant witness of immigrants trying to build a better life for their families against insurmountable odds.
Many Marines, National Guardsmen and vets are over on Threads and Substack expressinging their disagreement over being used by this lawless administration.

Peace, santi and shalom to all.

— Peter Coyote
 
I do not think the protests should be silent, but civil disobedience should be civil.

However, black civil rights protesters and marchers sang "We Shall Overcome" as they marched. Their protests were disruptive. They did not receive a license to cross the Edmund Pettus Bridge.
 
I do not think the protests should be silent, but civil disobedience should be civil.

Black civil rights protesters and marchers sang "We Shall Overcome." Their protests were disruptive. They did not get a license to cross the Edmund Pettus Bridge.
Edmund Pettus was Grand Dragon and Supreme Leader of the KKK



Singing We Shall Overcome is disruptive. 🙄 Oh, my people!
 
Edmund Pettus was Grand Dragon and Supreme Leader of the KKK



Singing We Shall Overcome is disruptive. 🙄 Oh, my people!


The Southern government officials and police who beat the marchers certainly seemed to think it was.
 
Peter Coyote, on protest:

"I’m watching the Los Angeles reaction to ICE raids with trepidation and regret.
Three years ago I taught a class at Harvard on the “theater of protest”— designed to help people understand why so many protests turn out to be Republican campaign videos working directly against the interests of the original protest.
A protest is an invitation to a better world.
It’s a ceremony.
No one accepts a ceremonial invitation when they’re being screamed at.

More important you have to know who the real audience of the protest is.
The audience is NEVER the police, the politicians, the Board of supervisors, Congress,etc.
The audience is always the American people, who are trying to decide who they can trust; who will not embarrass them.
If you win them, you win power at the box office and power to make positive change.
Everything else is a waste.

There are a few ways to get there:

1. Let women organize the event. They’re more collaborative. They’re more inclusive, and they don’t generally bring the undertones of violence men do.
2 Appoint monitors, give them yellow, vests and whistles. At the first sign of violence, they blow the whistles and the real protester sit down.
Let the police take out their aggression on the anarchists and the provocateurs trying to discredit the movement.
3. Dress like you’re going to church. It’s hard to be painted as a hoodlum when you’re dressed in clean, presentable clothes.
They don’t have to be fancy they just signal the respect for the occasion that you want to transmit to the audience.
4. Make your protest silent. Demonstrate your discipline to the American people. Let signs do the talking.
5. Go home at night. In the dark, you can’t tell the cops from the killers. Come back at dawn fresh and rested.
I have great fear that Trump’s staging with the National Guard and maybe the Marines is designed to clash with anarchists who are playing into his hands and offering him the opportunity to declare an insurrection.
It’s such a waste and it’s only because we haven’t thought things through strategically.

Nothing I thought of is particularly original.
It was all learned by watching the early civil rights protests in the 50s and 60s.
And it was the discipline and courage of African-Americans that drew such a clear line in the American sand that people were forced to take sides and that produced the civil rights act.
The American people are watching and once again if we behave in ways that can be misinterpreted, we’ll see this explained to the public in Republican campaign videos benefiting the very people who started this.

Wake up.
Vent at home.
In public practice discipline and self control.
It takes much more courage."

Note: Carry an American flag. As the administration creates a fake emergency to justify a state crackdown, it's important to honor the values and vision of democracy for which we're advocating.
When the Enquirer came for pics back in 2017, I smiled a big toothy grin and held a big flag as it felt so empowering and good to stand with my adult daughter, pastors, Franciscans, nuns, kids, parents, grandparents and some women from our women's groups for the values we tried to pass on.
After the protest, we sang and marched to a church where we heard poignant witness of immigrants trying to build a better life for their families against insurmountable odds.
Many Marines, National Guardsmen and vets are over on Threads and Substack expressinging their disagreement over being used by this lawless administration.

Peace, santi and shalom to all.

— Peter Coyote
Good advice.

Will they take it? I doubt it. Left wing protesters like to be angry.
 
Peter Coyote, on protest:

"I’m watching the Los Angeles reaction to ICE raids with trepidation and regret.
Three years ago I taught a class at Harvard on the “theater of protest”— designed to help people understand why so many protests turn out to be Republican campaign videos working directly against the interests of the original protest.
A protest is an invitation to a better world.
It’s a ceremony.
No one accepts a ceremonial invitation when they’re being screamed at.

More important you have to know who the real audience of the protest is.
The audience is NEVER the police, the politicians, the Board of supervisors, Congress,etc.
The audience is always the American people, who are trying to decide who they can trust; who will not embarrass them.
If you win them, you win power at the box office and power to make positive change.
Everything else is a waste.

There are a few ways to get there:

1. Let women organize the event. They’re more collaborative. They’re more inclusive, and they don’t generally bring the undertones of violence men do.
2 Appoint monitors, give them yellow, vests and whistles. At the first sign of violence, they blow the whistles and the real protester sit down.
Let the police take out their aggression on the anarchists and the provocateurs trying to discredit the movement.
3. Dress like you’re going to church. It’s hard to be painted as a hoodlum when you’re dressed in clean, presentable clothes.
They don’t have to be fancy they just signal the respect for the occasion that you want to transmit to the audience.
4. Make your protest silent. Demonstrate your discipline to the American people. Let signs do the talking.
5. Go home at night. In the dark, you can’t tell the cops from the killers. Come back at dawn fresh and rested.
I have great fear that Trump’s staging with the National Guard and maybe the Marines is designed to clash with anarchists who are playing into his hands and offering him the opportunity to declare an insurrection.
It’s such a waste and it’s only because we haven’t thought things through strategically.

Nothing I thought of is particularly original.
It was all learned by watching the early civil rights protests in the 50s and 60s.
And it was the discipline and courage of African-Americans that drew such a clear line in the American sand that people were forced to take sides and that produced the civil rights act.
The American people are watching and once again if we behave in ways that can be misinterpreted, we’ll see this explained to the public in Republican campaign videos benefiting the very people who started this.

Wake up.
Vent at home.
In public practice discipline and self control.
It takes much more courage."

Note: Carry an American flag. As the administration creates a fake emergency to justify a state crackdown, it's important to honor the values and vision of democracy for which we're advocating.
When the Enquirer came for pics back in 2017, I smiled a big toothy grin and held a big flag as it felt so empowering and good to stand with my adult daughter, pastors, Franciscans, nuns, kids, parents, grandparents and some women from our women's groups for the values we tried to pass on.
After the protest, we sang and marched to a church where we heard poignant witness of immigrants trying to build a better life for their families against insurmountable odds.
Many Marines, National Guardsmen and vets are over on Threads and Substack expressinging their disagreement over being used by this lawless administration.

Peace, santi and shalom to all.

— Peter Coyote
Have to say, that's pretty damn good advice.
 
"Dress like you are going to church"

IE: "Be defenseless when the police decide to attack the protest."
 
"Dress like you are going to church"

IE: "Be defenseless when the police decide to attack the protest."

You may be missing the point.
Coyote talks about selling ideas to the audience but he never guaranteed 100 safety or promised there won't be blood.
America sees decently dressed fellow Americans being beat up, it crystallizes their support for the people and not for the authoritarians.
 
You may be missing the point.
Coyote talks about selling ideas to the audience but he never guaranteed 100 safety or promised there won't be blood.
America sees decently dressed fellow Americans being beat up, it crystallizes their support for the people and not for the authoritarians.

So protestors should be expected to sacrifice, potentially be killed, needlessly just to make white liberals sitting at home happy?
 
You may be missing the point.
Coyote talks about selling ideas to the audience but he never guaranteed 100 safety or promised there won't be blood.
America sees decently dressed fellow Americans being beat up, it crystallizes their support for the people and not for the authoritarians.

I think it is reasonable advice to dress and comport yourself respectably because the cameras are on you and your conduct is being televised for everyone in the country to see and you want to draw people to your side. The only problem is that some of this advice is twenty to thirty years out of date. The American media landscape has been completely captured by billionaire overlords and private equity who are all right-wing and support the Trump Administration.

If 30,000 protesters march in LA dressed in their Sunday's Best, carrying the American Flag, Fox News would focus their cameras on the one homeless drug addict defecating on a sidewalk three city blocks away and say that he is representative of the protesters as a whole, their audience would swallow that up, and right-wing online commentators would repeat the lie, which would in turn bleed in to mainstream media and soon MSNBC would be repeating that protesters were defecating all over the LA sidewalks. I would know because I watched the protests and so did my parents, and they came back with a much different view of what is going on.
 
You may be missing the point.
Coyote talks about selling ideas to the audience but he never guaranteed 100 safety or promised there won't be blood.
America sees decently dressed fellow Americans being beat up, it crystallizes their support for the people and not for the authoritarians.


In the early 70's the mood of the American people changed as they saw the kids who were no being beat up as college students, clean cut and behaved.
The Chicago 7 trial galvanized middle America and violence began to fade as the cops took more and more shit,


This? This isn't riot control. This is instigation. They're trying to start a nation wide push back.
 
In the early 70's the mood of the American people changed as they saw the kids who were no being beat up as college students, clean cut and behaved.
The Chicago 7 trial galvanized middle America and violence began to fade as the cops took more and more shit,


This? This isn't riot control. This is instigation. They're trying to start a nation wide push back.

Yes indeedy.
And the same thing galvanized American opinions when they saw decently dressed black folks being drowned with firehoses and sicced on by police dogs down South.
The men dressed in shirts with ties and carried signs that said "I AM A MAN", nothing more.
"I am a man, I am a HUMAN BEING."

They didn't riot, they marched silently, they prayed, they sang, they held hands, and when the machine began to beat them up, Americans were furious.
That's the point.
 
I think it is reasonable advice to dress and comport yourself respectably because the cameras are on you and your conduct is being televised for everyone in the country to see and you want to draw people to your side. The only problem is that some of this advice is twenty to thirty years out of date. The American media landscape has been completely captured by billionaire overlords and private equity who are all right-wing and support the Trump Administration.

If 30,000 protesters march in LA dressed in their Sunday's Best, carrying the American Flag, Fox News would focus their cameras on the one homeless drug addict defecating on a sidewalk three city blocks away and say that he is representative of the protesters as a whole, their audience would swallow that up, and right-wing online commentators would repeat the lie, which would in turn bleed in to mainstream media and soon MSNBC would be repeating that protesters were defecating all over the LA sidewalks. I would know because I watched the protests and so did my parents, and they came back with a much different view of what is going on.

I grant you everything however the notion that it doesn't work because it's thirty year old advice may be misleading because those quiet and decently dressed protesters acted on the same advice dating back to Gandhi. That worked in Gandhi's time, it worked in the Sixties and Seventies, and it worked for Solidarnosc in the Eighties in Poland.
It works, and it still works, and even if Fox tries to distort it, that effort may well backfire spectacularly for Fox.

The numbers are still weak right now.....right NOW.
Give it time, this is not going to be resolved overnight.
 
I grant you everything however the notion that it doesn't work because it's thirty year old advice may be misleading because those quiet and decently dressed protesters acted on the same advice dating back to Gandhi. That worked in Gandhi's time, it worked in the Sixties and Seventies, and it worked for Solidarnosc in the Eighties in Poland.
It works, and it still works, and even if Fox tries to distort it, that effort may well backfire spectacularly for Fox.

The numbers are still weak right now.....right NOW.
Give it time, this is not going to be resolved overnight.
Even Gandhi acknowledged it would not have worked against Hitler.
 
So protestors should be expected to sacrifice, potentially be killed, needlessly just to make white liberals sitting at home happy?
Yes, people make sacrifices.

Be killed is is really ramping up the drama. Unless you’re thinking of a January 6 protester.
 
Yes, people make sacrifices.

Be killed is is really ramping up the drama. Unless you’re thinking of a January 6 protester.

How about we expect the white liberal moderates to make sacrifices for once?
 
The peace marches in Los Angeles against GWB’s Iraq invasion had lots of monitors as well as observers from the Lawyers Guild. The monitors were effective in isolating Black Bloc members initiating violence, and the attorney-observers served to remind any rogue officer to play by the rules.

Those at the front of the march holding the outsized banner were a combination of local activists, politicians, and others recognizable to the general public.

As far as noise, the Aztec dancers were always there, as were members of the Bus Riders’ Union with their empty five-gallon plastic buckets being used as drums. Local union chapters were represented with UTLA (teachers) generally having a large contingent. Noh performers, dressed in rags and ashes representing survivors of bombings, crept and crawled along the route. Buddhist monks had their contingent, as well as other church-based pacifist groups. Veteran groups as well. And ordinary everyday people, with their children — walking with them or in strollers or child carriers.

The marches represented a range of communities, and ages, who opposed the illegal invasion of Iraq.
 
The peace marches in Los Angeles against GWB’s Iraq invasion had lots of monitors as well as observers from the Lawyers Guild. The monitors were effective in isolating Black Bloc members initiating violence, and the attorney-observers served to remind any rogue officer to play by the rules.

Those at the front of the march holding the outsized banner were a combination of local activists, politicians, and others recognizable to the general public.

As far as noise, the Aztec dancers were always there, as were members of the Bus Riders’ Union with their empty five-gallon plastic buckets being used as drums. Local union chapters were represented with UTLA (teachers) generally having a large contingent. Noh performers, dressed in rags and ashes representing survivors of bombings, crept and crawled along the route. Buddhist monks had their contingent, as well as other church-based pacifist groups. Veteran groups as well. And ordinary everyday people, with their children — walking with them or in strollers or child carriers.

The marches represented a range of communities, and ages, who opposed the illegal invasion of Iraq.

And police still attacked peaceful protestors during them.
 
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