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Perry calls it quits

Perry showed he was unfit for president by spending huge amounts of money before the race even started. Having campaign staffers in SC, NH, Iowa, and Texas. He's bowing out not just because he can't make inroads but also because he was spending like a drunken sailor and ran out of funds. That's the part the media won't cover at all.

According to the FEC Perry was the 4th lowest expenditures-only Jindhal, Santorum, and Pataki spent less. Perry spent c. 10% of what Cruz and Carson spent and 3% of what Hillary has spent.

http://www.fec.gov/press/summaries/2016/tables/presidential/presdisbursements_2015_q2.pdf
 
Hard to admit that you can't even beat Jindal but kudos to him for making the right call.

For those that would prefer a source.



Rick Perry Drops Out of 2016 Presidential Race - ABC News

Not too surprising, albeit a bit disappointing. I would not have wanted him to receive the nomination, but Perry may have been helped by the first debate had it not been for three candidates who have never held political office. Perry was the longest serving Governor in Texas' history. That's far more than the top three candidates right now can claim.

"For want of a nail. . . ."

A real lesson in how large events can turn on small incidents. In 2012 Perry was on the rise and looked well positioned for a serious presidential run. Then came the "senior moment" flub in the debate and it all went away. In 2016 it became clear early that his moment had passed.
 
"For want of a nail. . . ."

A real lesson in how large events can turn on small incidents. In 2012 Perry was on the rise and looked well positioned for a serious presidential run. Then came the "senior moment" flub in the debate and it all went away. In 2016 it became clear early that his moment had passed.

In politics it only takes one verbal slip up and you are yesterday's news. Remember Howard Dean's "Dean Scream". Due to a hoarse voice and too closed placed microphone his "Yeah" came out like chalk on a blackboard. You're done buddy , nobody wants a president who screams like that.

God forbid if a candidate stood up and farted.
 
"For want of a nail. . . ."

A real lesson in how large events can turn on small incidents. In 2012 Perry was on the rise and looked well positioned for a serious presidential run. Then came the "senior moment" flub in the debate and it all went away. In 2016 it became clear early that his moment had passed.

The Oops debate was in mid-November 2011, by which point most of the support he had generated throughout the summer had dissipated.

The bottom dropped out of his polling at the end of September, in the days immediately after his "I don't think you have a heart" defense of educating immigrant children. Turns out having a heart when it comes to illegal immigrants--even children--is poison in a GOP primary; conversely, the more vile your rhetoric towards them, the better you'll do (see: Trump).

There's an ugly streak in the GOP base and Rick Perry's sin is that he not only failed to tap into it, he actually criticized it. The Oops moment 5-6 weeks later was just the anchor he latched onto as he was already drowning.

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See - you did it again. Perry in no way corresponds to Boehner or McConnel, but because he has ACTUALLY SUCCEEDED IN POLITICS, you falsely conflate the two. If anyone who is successful at governing conservatively is out in your mind, all that means is that you wish the conservative to be a failure, or you wish to be governed by a liberal.

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I gave you my definition of establishment.
the problem or perry and any other perceived politician is that people don't want them. that is plain and simple.
all of the politicians running in this race have <10% of the polling numbers while everyone else is surging upward.

I never said they were out of my mind I said the other votes are tired of politicians. this time they want a non-politician running.
Perry should have done more however this time he has issues.

he ran out of money was his biggest issue. he couldn't pay people.
he didn't do anything to get outside of trump's shadow.
 
The Oops debate was in mid-November 2011, by which point most of the support he had generated throughout the summer had dissipated.

The bottom dropped out of his polling at the end of September, in the days immediately after his "I don't think you have a heart" defense of educating immigrant children. Turns out having a heart when it comes to illegal immigrants--even children--is poison in a GOP primary; conversely, the more vile your rhetoric towards them, the better you'll do (see: Trump).

There's an ugly streak in the GOP base and Rick Perry's sin is that he not only failed to tap into it, he actually criticized it. The Oops moment 5-6 weeks later was just the anchor he latched onto as he was already drowning.

lol the ugly streak as you call it is worse if you are a democrat. the only reason they don't see it is because well they live in it all the time.
some of the most vile and meanest people I know are so called open minded liberals.
 
You got that Right Ludin. :2wave: Trump stole Perry's chance.



How the Summer of Trump Foiled Rick Perry's Comeback.....

After his spectacular implosion as a candidate in 2012, Perry needed to run a disciplined presidential campaign free from gaffes, less frenzied and slapdash than his last. He needed to show Republicans, to persuade them, that this time could be different.

Perry did all that. But he never got that second chance, because no one was watching. Instead, Republicans turned, riveted, to watch Donald Trump’s rise. They channeled energy and money into supporting “outsider” candidates and newcomers. And Perry’s revamped candidacy Friday became the first casualty of the resulting vacuum.

On Friday, Perry conceded that one of those places would not be the White House. As he did, though, he did not spare Trump a parting shot. “For me, the message has always been greater than the man. The conservative movement has always been about principles, not personalities,” Perry said. “Our nominee should embody those principles. He or she must make the case for the cause of conservatism more than the cause of their own celebrity.”....snip~

How the Summer of Trump Foiled Rick Perry's Comeback | RealClearPolitics

you know that parting shot was nothing more than call the wwwwhhhaaammmmbulance moment for me.
I am glad he quit because who wants a sore loser for a president.
 
Perry never had a chance, the office goes to the highest bidder.
 
you know that parting shot was nothing more than call the wwwwhhhaaammmmbulance moment for me.
I am glad he quit because who wants a sore loser for a president.

Well he did give BO peep some ****.....and that move with not showing up at the Airport when BO blew in. Kind of showed the Peep that there are those that will stand up to his fecklessness and treat him like he should be treated. As someone who never was special.

One thing is for certain. Perry and Texas was a thorn in BO peeps side.

Do you think Perry would vote for Trump if he was the nominee?
 
Well he did give BO peep some ****.....and that move with not showing up at the Airport when BO blew in. Kind of showed the Peep that there are those that will stand up to his fecklessness and treat him like he should be treated. As someone who never was special.

One thing is for certain. Perry and Texas was a thorn in BO peeps side.

Do you think Perry would vote for Trump if he was the nominee?

no I don't think he would. he would vote independent or something.
 
By all lights, Perry should have been a top contender. At least in the top 5. It is unfortunate that he had to drop out this soon, but this race has gotten weird.

I think he'd have a good shot at Texas senator for sure.
 
In politics it only takes one verbal slip up and you are yesterday's news. Remember Howard Dean's "Dean Scream". Due to a hoarse voice and too closed placed microphone his "Yeah" came out like chalk on a blackboard. You're done buddy , nobody wants a president who screams like that.

God forbid if a candidate stood up and farted.



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I gave you my definition of establishment.
the problem or perry and any other perceived politician is that people don't want them. that is plain and simple.
all of the politicians running in this race have <10% of the polling numbers while everyone else is surging upward.

I never said they were out of my mind I said the other votes are tired of politicians. this time they want a non-politician running.

Yeah - it's weird. It's like a certain portion of people have decided that the most important qualification for the person we choose to try to implement complex, difficult reforms that will require significant political experience and skill to pull off is someone that hasn't got a ****ing clue how to actually do it. I like Carson - I really do. But hiring him for President is no smarter than hiring Jeb Bush to do your brain surgery.
 
Yeah - it's weird. It's like a certain portion of people have decided that the most important qualification for the person we choose to try to implement complex, difficult reforms that will require significant political experience and skill to pull off is someone that hasn't got a ****ing clue how to actually do it. I like Carson - I really do. But hiring him for President is no smarter than hiring Jeb Bush to do your brain surgery.

you don't know that. this is an assumption. people are tired of the status quo and politicians that don't listen to them and as soon as they get into the presidents seat they do
what they want to do.

this time they are hoping that someone else will do what they want.

I don't see any reform that carson has put forth that is complex and totally undoable. in fact they are very simple to reform and implement.
they are common sense reforms that should be a no problem vote. the problem are all the political hacks.
 
no I don't think he would. he would vote independent or something.

Pataki has come out and said he won't support Trump if he is the nominee. I think he jumped into the race to affect Kasich and Christie, in order to help Bush.
 
Being a Senator and SOS is an accomplishment. Don't let your partisanship blind you.

Not really. She used her influence as a Clinton to get elelected and Obama appointed her as SoS.

Cam you name any actual Hillary Clinton accomplishments ?
 
I think he'd have a good shot at Texas senator for sure.

I'm dubious about this. Perry doesn't have a background in the law as do Cruz and Cornyn (who served as Chief Justice of the Texas Supremes). But I can think of 2-3 Cabinet positions in which Perry would serve very well.
 
you don't know that. this is an assumption. people are tired of the status quo and politicians that don't listen to them and as soon as they get into the presidents seat they do
what they want to do.

this time they are hoping that someone else will do what they want.

:lol: tell me more about things we don't know that are assumptions?

I don't see any reform that carson has put forth that is complex and totally undoable.

SSDI starts to go belly up next year. The next President is not only going to have to fix that and fix the disaster that Obamcare created, he's also going to need to reform entitlements. Those are massive, complex, difficult issues that will require someone exceedingly skilled at building the political coalitions necessary for conservative reform. That is to say, not carson, not trump, not Fiorina.

in fact they are very simple to reform and implement....

they are common sense reforms that should be a no problem vote. the problem are all the political hacks.

....:doh

So, his reforms should be easy to implement and pass.

The only problem is that congress is full of politicians, and so they won't pass.


Gotit.
 
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