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Pence dismisses 'grim predictions of a second wave of coronavirus'

Pence can dismiss a second wave but he's wrong. Being wrong may be his fault, but a second wave is not. Thanks to all the good Samaritans vandalizing, protesting and rioting, I suspect we'll see double or triple the numbers forecast. I also suspect the people who succumb all told will exceed 400,000 nationally. The only 2 mitigating factors now are whether a vaccine is in play by November or December OR whether the virus has mutated to a less lethal state. Evidence suggests that it mutated to a more potent state in Italy, but elsewhere, it may have become more innocuous. Regardless, we can only hope we get a break!! Thanks!!
 
Casper said:
I just wanted trump to lead, it is unfortunately not in his skill set.
Soon, you won't have a choice about wearing a mask, enjoy, that is what happens when people cannot simply do the right thing on their own the government will force you to. How, you ask, by putting the Business on the spot, they will either require them are be fined for ignoring it, even the Governor is good with that.
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Read the Constitution and pay attention to the politics of personal destruction. Name for me the top five states in this country in infections and deaths then tell me that their governors would have supported anything Trump said?

states and local governments have the authority to fine states, enforce social distancing, quarantines, and the same holds true with citizens. That isn't the role of the Federal gov't
 
Conservative said:
Read the Constitution and pay attention to the politics of personal destruction. Name for me the top five states in this country in infections and deaths then tell me that their governors would have supported anything Trump said?

states and local governments have the authority to fine states, enforce social distancing, quarantines, and the same holds true with citizens. That isn't the role of the Federal gov't
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Are those top five states also the highest population density?
 
Deuce said:
I checked and it looks like the only states actually trending downward now are blue states.
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Blue states only had one way to go and yet still lead the nation, trends are irrelevant, death percentages tell the story
 
Conservative said:
Blue states only had one way to go and yet still lead the nation, trends are irrelevant, death percentages tell the story
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‘Trends are irrelevant’ says a guy who pretends to wants to talk seriously about a pandemic :lamo
 
Deuce said:
‘Trends are irrelevant’ says a guy who pretends to wants to talk seriously about a pandemic :lamo
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And this is coming from someone who ignore6 economic results due to economic policy and wants to blame pandemic results on the president

Are you ever going to discuss issues and give me a reason to vote for Biden

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dcsports said:
Not ignoring. The state does have a thoughtful plan, which takes CDC guidance into consideration. It's been extremely smooth compared to states that are 'winging it' or just continuing on lockdown.

And the governor has been very clear that he's evaluating specific criteria at each stage before proceeding. I would be surprised if we didn't hold at this point for another few weeks.
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While that Sounds good, but they are losing control, and not sure how to deal with it. Maybe if they stopped thinking in Political terms and maybe more in terms of Public Safety we wouldn't have this Issue.
 
Conservative said:
Read the Constitution and pay attention to the politics of personal destruction. Name for me the top five states in this country in infections and deaths then tell me that their governors would have supported anything Trump said?

states and local governments have the authority to fine states, enforce social distancing, quarantines, and the same holds true with citizens. That isn't the role of the Federal gov't
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Dude, you just aren't paying attention, I don't care a rats arse how one place is doing verses another over all we are Losing and it is your mindset and attitude that is making Worse. We reap what we sow.
 
Casper said:
While that Sounds good, but they are losing control, and not sure how to deal with it. Maybe if they stopped thinking in Political terms and maybe more in terms of Public Safety we wouldn't have this Issue.
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They are taking many factors into consideration, including public safety. And again - the plan to re-open Texas was working exceptionally well. Hospital admissions were flat - even slowly declining. The upswing didn't start because people were getting haircuts or eating at every other table in a restaurant. It's because of the large gatherings of people which local governments were allowing.
 
dcsports said:
They are taking many factors into consideration, including public safety. And again - the plan to re-open Texas was working exceptionally well. Hospital admissions were flat - even slowly declining. The upswing didn't start because people were getting haircuts or eating at every other table in a restaurant. It's because of the large gatherings of people which local governments were allowing.
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You Really Believe That? Damn.....
 
Casper said:
I am not the one unclear, everything you stated is untrue. Sorry but that is the way it is.
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Everything I stated is true. Your general disagreement is noted. Let me know if you want to discuss anything.
 
dcsports said:
Everything I stated is true. Your general disagreement is noted. Let me know if you want to discuss anything.
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Your wrong on all points but I don't have the time to deal with it one point after another. Leave it at this, within two weeks one if us will be living in denial and the other will be living with what they knew was coming
 
Casper said:
Your wrong on all points but I don't have the time to deal with it one point after another. Leave it at this, within two weeks one if us will be living in denial and the other will be living with what they knew was coming
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OK. You made some false statement on a discussion board - and don't want to discuss. That makes sense.

I think it would be a good idea for others to look at the data.
 
dcsports said:
OK. You made some false statement on a discussion board - and don't want to discuss. That makes sense.

I think it would be a good idea for others to look at the data.
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BS, but yes look at the Data.
 
Casper said:
Dude, you just aren't paying attention, I don't care a rats arse how one place is doing verses another over all we are Losing and it is your mindset and attitude that is making Worse. We reap what we sow.
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Yes we will always reap what we sow and of course you don't care whether one place is doing better than another because personal responsibility doesn't exist in many places today. There is no justification for Marshall Law to be declared in this country over a pandemic which can be controlled by personal behavior.

Since you won't answer the question and continue to want to blame Trump, the five worst states in the nation are NY, NJ, Ill, California, and Massachusetts all with Democratic Governors and mostly Democratic Mayors in their big cities, none of whom would listen or believe anything Trump says and all with the power Trump never had to enforce social distancing, wearing masks, quarantines which make testing irrelevant to prevent the virus spreading
 
Conservative said:
Yes we will always reap what we sow and of course you don't care whether one place is doing better than another because personal responsibility doesn't exist in many places today. There is no justification for Marshall Law to be declared in this country over a pandemic which can be controlled by personal behavior.

Since you won't answer the question and continue to want to blame Trump, the five worst states in the nation are NY, NJ, Ill, California, and Massachusetts all with Democratic Governors and mostly Democratic Mayors in their big cities, none of whom would listen or believe anything Trump says and all with the power Trump never had to enforce social distancing, wearing masks, quarantines which make testing irrelevant to prevent the virus spreading
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Donald Trump wants to use the United States military to police American cities. He is the only one I can see who wants marshal law.
 
Jean-s said:
Has Donald Trump built the biggest wall in the history of the world, it must be asked.
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Getting close to doing that all in three years, stunning how you buy liberal rhetoric and ignore reality, the wall is being built but people like you choose to ignore it just like anything else that flies in the face of what you want to believe
 
Conservative said:
Name for me the top five states in this country in infections and deaths then tell me that their governors would have supported anything Trump said?
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Not sure it matters to the Covid dead what party their state governor called home. But of the 17 states registering the most significant decreases in Covid cases 10 are led by Dem governors, while 7 have GOP executives.

Many have slammed New York's governor for the tragic loss of life the state experienced.
But hindsight tells us that the infection rate hit New York like an explosion. 24 cases on March 9...10,824 cases 4 weeks later on April 9.
That staggering daily new cases number has steadily dropped as New Yorkers did a decent job following Gov Cuomo's strict guidelines.
NY new cases were 725 on June 20--fewer than Tennessee which has 1/3 the population.

Of the 9 states experiencing the highest numbers of increasing infection rates (based on Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center data), two are led by Democrats, while 7 have GOP governors:

New cases reported either June 19 or June 20:
> CA 4138
> TX 3961
> FL 3788
> AZ 3063
> GA 1263
> NC 1074
> SC 1067
> AL 923
> TN 777

America Is Reopening. But have we flattened the curve? - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center
 
Casper said:
We need to heal, cannot do that with trump around.
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I watched some of the president's hateful "rally" performance in Tulsa.
Trump spreads such a horrendous mean-spirited message of hate and distrust at a time in our history when as you point out, we need healing as a nation and as a culture.
 
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