Pecker details the sleazy arrangement with Trump

[Deuce]

There is nothing to reference. Mr. Trump was not charged campaign finance violations.

And yet you keep claiming they are trying to prosecute Federal campaign finance violations. Thank you for admitting that was false.

 

[Deuce]

The judge isn't posting the motions. There are very few filings on the public record - something else Trump's team has complained about.

I agree that the judge's behavior is quite concerning.

Oh so you are referencing secret motions that nobody knows about but you. Got it.



Listen, I can't evaluate mysterious motions that you have presented no source for, so I'll just reject everything. All of those motions were invalid and inconsistent with the law, and the lawyers knew this, so they should all be disbarred. I say so. Who needs facts?

 

[OpportunityCost]

"I know what you are but what am I?" Really? LOL!

Listen, you're the one citing opinion polls on how campaign finance laws work.

Why aren't you on Trump's legal team? None of them have figured out this One Weird Trick of yours.

Once again with the snide bullshit? Opinion polls are reflective of the general public and how germane the average reasonable person will be to something, and it reflects on juries who actually determine guilt and innocence. How you don't get the correlation is beyond me.

Quit baiting, it just diminishes the value of your posts.

 

[OpportunityCost]

Yes that is why we are having a trial my dude. "You have to prove guilt in order to have a trial" is just laughable flailing.

False.

lol

I get that. What Bragg isn't doing is proving the federal election law he states is broken that allows the misdemeanors to become felonies. Which is what is allowing the statute of limitations issue, which allows the conspiracy issue and the rest of the bullshit Bragg is claiming. You really are okay with charging someone with an added penalty for a felony that has never been proven?

The LOL is a dodge. Address the statements in a straightforward way and quit trolling.

 

[OpportunityCost]

Oh so you are referencing secret motions that nobody knows about but you. Got it.



Listen, I can't evaluate mysterious motions that you have presented no source for, so I'll just reject everything. All of those motions were invalid and inconsistent with the law, and the lawyers knew this, so they should all be disbarred. I say so. Who needs facts?

No, he's referencing motions the defense claims were filed but are not on public record.

Again, quit the trolling bullshit.

 

[HumblePi]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news...y-criminal-trial-latest-michael-cohen-banker/
Haggling over prices with Dylan Howard, editor-in-chief of the National Enquirer, he suggested $1 million up-front with a yearly $75,000 for Ms McDougal working as a fitness correspondent for AMI publications.

When Mr Howard said the offer would be “more hundreds than millions”, Mr Davidson proposed an initial $800,000 followed by a $100,000 salary for the next two years.

He added: “Throw in an ambassadorship for me. I’m thinking Isle of Man.”

Speaking in court on Tuesday, Mr Davidson described the comment as “a joke”. “I know they don’t have an ambassador, but I think it was a reference to Mr Trump’s candidacy”, he added.

 

[Deuce]

Once again with the snide bullshit? Opinion polls are reflective of the general public and how germane the average reasonable person will be to something, and it reflects on juries who actually determine guilt and innocence. How you don't get the correlation is beyond me.

Quit baiting, it just diminishes the value of your posts.

Does it? Does it reflect on how juries actually decide?

Because the people in the courtroom actually get informed on the allegations, the law, and the evidence in a way the public does not. "What do people think who have no knowledge of the evidence" just isn't useful information.

 

[Deuce]

I get that. What Bragg isn't doing is proving the federal election law he states is broken that allows the misdemeanors to become felonies.

You literally do not get it because that is what Bragg is doing right now with this trial.

 

[Deuce]

No, he's referencing motions the defense claims were filed but are not on public record.

Again, quit the trolling bullshit.

Ok, he's referencing motions he has no knowledge about, which were supposedly rejected for reasons he has no knowledge about, due to laws he has no knowledge about.

Can you tell me what I am supposed to do with this claim?

 

[Buckeyes85]

No, he's referencing motions the defense claims were filed but are not on public record.

Again, quit the trolling bullshit.

As I've already addressed: All filings are a matter of public record but NY does not have an electronic filing system for people to access online. That's not a trump case issue. That's not a Judge Merchan issue. That's a NY court issue.

With a paper system, the party filing the pleading sends someone to the clerk's office, they file stamp it (date/time) and you walk out with a file stamped copy.

So you know who has a file stamped copy of every motion they filed? Trumps attorneys. If they claim they filed something, all they have to do is post a copy online, with the file stamp.

When they don't, it is you who are being trolled by them.

 

[OpportunityCost]

You literally do not get it because that is what Bragg is doing right now with this trial.

He didnt file charges for them and has no intention of proving them, he is going to use the Cohen conviction as a statement of fact when it is not proof of a conviction of Trump.

 

[Deuce]

He didnt file charges for them and has no intention of proving them, he is going to use the Cohen conviction as a statement of fact when it is not proof of a conviction of Trump.

If the jury is convinced that law was broken, along with the falsification of business records, they will vote to convict on falsifying business records in the first degree.

The Cohen conviction is a statement of fact that a crime occurred. All Bragg really has to do is convince the jury that Trump was behind it.

 

[dcsports]

False.

If Trump's team is complaining about that, they are lying. Filings are all a matter of public record.
What they may be whining about his that NY does not have an electronic filing system and their paper filing is always slow. That has nothing to do with Trumps case. It is all cases.

The judge has absolutely NO responsibility for that. So the claim the judge is not "posting motions" is also false. Note, if Trump's attorneys really want the filings made public, they are free to post online what they file, and what the opposition files. They receive a copy of everything as it is submitted to the clerk.

It's absolutely true. I've heard a couple of people doing commentary on the trial noting it. And they did note that it's an issue with all NY cases (and the judge noted that). They just don't put much into the filing system that's available to the public.

 

[dcsports]

Oh so you are referencing secret motions that nobody knows about but you. Got it.



Listen, I can't evaluate mysterious motions that you have presented no source for, so I'll just reject everything. All of those motions were invalid and inconsistent with the law, and the lawyers knew this, so they should all be disbarred. I say so. Who needs facts?

no, that's a mischaracterization. But thanks for responding, I guess.

 

[dcsports]

He didnt file charges for them and has no intention of proving them, he is going to use the Cohen conviction as a statement of fact when it is not proof of a conviction of Trump.

If the jury is convinced that law was broken, along with the falsification of business records, they will vote to convict on falsifying business records in the first degree.

The Cohen conviction is a statement of fact that a crime occurred. All Bragg really has to do is convince the jury that Trump was behind it.

The challenge there is that the Cohen's conviction (in federal court) is contradictory to the theory in this case (state court). The settlement payment can't be both an illegal donation by Cohen and an expense reimbursed by Trump.

 

[CaughtInThe]

I agree that the judge's behavior is quite concerning.

What's concerning is Trump's past and current behavior.

 

[Athanasius68]

Non answer on the first part. You claimed those with the authority to charge him didn't. I said: show me where only the DOJ FEC had authority. And you can't.

As to the 2nd part, Cohen? Huh? He has nothing to do with my point, which was in response to your rather silly suggestion that if the DOJ didn't charge him, no other prosecutor can charge him for similar/same offenses. Trump and his lackeys in congress like Little Jimmy Jordan issued those idiotic talking points as soon as Trump was indicted, and you folks just keep repeating them like mockingbirds.

Ok-- so you are arguing that states can enforce federal campaign finance law.

 

[Deuce]

no, that's a mischaracterization. But thanks for responding, I guess.

You still have provided no details of these motions or why you think it was inappropriate to reject them, so thanks for posting, I guess

 

[Gimmesometruth]

Ok-- so you are arguing that states can enforce federal campaign finance law.

yes, the concept is referred to as concurrence:

The Court thus held that “the State courts have concurrent jurisdiction whenever, by their own constitution, they are competent to take it.” 5

State Court Jurisdiction to Enforce Federal Law

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[BabaVoss]

I get that. What Bragg isn't doing is proving the federal election law he states is broken that allows the misdemeanors to become felonies. Which is what is allowing the statute of limitations issue, which allows the conspiracy issue and the rest of the bullshit Bragg is claiming. You really are okay with charging someone with an added penalty for a felony that has never been proven?

If what you suggest were true, what did the grand jury see when they decided there was sufficient evidence to proceed with a trial? The judge woudl be in a position to shut down a “bullshit” trial.

 

[OpportunityCost]

If what you suggest were true, what did the grand jury see when they decided there was sufficient evidence to proceed with a trial? The judge woudl be in a position to shut down a “bullshit” trial.

You are acting as though the GJ pool is as unbiased as the current jury and the judge. I have doubts about that.

 

[BabaVoss]

You are acting as though the GJ pool is as unbiased as the current jury and the judge. I have doubts about that.

Of course you do. Everyone is biased against Trump, right? You just can't prove it. Like the rigged election.

 

[OpportunityCost]

Of course you do. Everyone is biased against Trump, right? You just can't prove it. Like the rigged election.

NYC is 80%+Democrat. Merchan donated to Democrats; his daughter works for a company that fundraises for Democrats. Gimme a break, the receipts are common knowledge, why don't you know that?

 

[BabaVoss]

NYC is 80%+Democrat.

So democrats are not capable of using sound judgement and interpreting the law? Is this true of anyone or only democrats? You do know how our system works, yes? A jury is made up of Americans.

Merchan donated to Democrats; his daughter works for a company that fundraises for Democrats. Gimme a break, the receipts are common knowledge, why don't you know that?

I know all that. Merchan;’s daughter had nothing to do with anything. Merchan is a solid judge by all accounts. That he donated $20 is meaningless. Is he a good judge? Does he understand the law? Is there a hint of anything even remotely negative concerning his history of doing his job well? Yes, Yes, No.

Can you show any legitimate reason Merchan has allowed ANY of that to influence his judgement in the court? No.

Move on.

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[CaughtInThe]

Oh. My. God.

You gotta watch this...