Paul Ryan: GOP will defund Planned Parenthood[W:546]

[Linc]

Where did I support Trumpkins either? Another massive failure on your part. But what else can we expect?

Where did I say you supported trump?

Are you used to spewing blatant irrational lies ?

 

[Hatuey]

The simple answer to your question is yes

Then problem settled. The GOP's (and let's face it - the American Conservative movement's) ultimate goal is to crumble away at a woman's right to chose until that no longer exists. Canadians like yourself don't have that problem because you don't have an entire subsection of your society with enough money to put fundamentalist Christians in power to any meaningful degree.

I don't care what you abhor or even for that matter feel icky about. There are plenty of issues I feel icky about, I don't go on crusades calling the people/organizations/programs funded by those taxes 'murderers' or sub-human beings. The people on the anti-choice side do - see some of JayDubyah's post. Hell, even 'tres borrachos' a supposed 'moderate' right winger calls them 'irresponsible' simply because they had an abortion. Irrespective of the reason behind that abortion. Do Canadian women have that problem with the Canadian right wing? I seriously doubt it.

You want to back people like him and her using their same bull**** arguments which aim to eventually get rid of abortion altogether? Go for it. Just don't expect me to believe that the conversation Americans are having is about the involvement of government in abortion. We're not. We're having a conversation on the choice to either get abortion or carry a pregnancy to term.

Maybe Canadians are having a conversation a conversation on Gvt involvement?

The conversation in the US about whether we'll have the choice or we won't. One side wants to have that choice, the other wants to remove it for everyone else.

 

[Linc]

Where did I say I have a problem with Roe v. Wade or abortion in the first place? Do you know there's a giant difference between funding PP and banning abortions?

So now yer dancing around the circle of responses on an issue as trump does!

While also living in denia that you support trump .

 

[ajn678]

Where did I say you supported trump?

Are you used to spewing blatant irrational lies ?

Let me give you an example of all the failures you have had on the last couple pages.

1. You brought up Newt in an attempt to get me to look like a hypocrite. I don't like Newt.

2. You ask why I also didn't bring up Trump's cheating in an attempt to make me look like a hypocrite. I don't like Trump.

3. You attempt to bring up the fact that the GOP didn't try and get Roe v Wade overturned as proof that I am a hypocrite. I don't support the GOP. I don't support getting rid of Roe v Wade. I don't support banning abortions.

Anything else you would like to try?

 

[Casca XV]

Oh...so how does he propose to pay for all his policies and plans for the economy and infrastructure...when he can't even hire one celebrity for his inauguration. lol

The same way Reagan and JFK did: lower taxes increases economic activity which increases tax revenue.

The Celebrity's sure came out for Hillary. Them on stage was the only time she could get more than 300 people at her campaign rallies, and still it was nothing close to the average crowds Trump got.

With CGI technology Celebrities don't have much of a future. With a successful Trump presidency neither does the American Left.

 

[Linc]

Do you support killing all drains on our society? Yes or no.

What does asking a poster if "they support killing all drains on our society" mean ajn678?

Is my Mother a drain because she gets help from the government to live in an assisted living home?

Is she a drain because she gets part of my Dad's Air Force pension and tri-care-for-life ?

 

[ajn678]

What does asking a poster if "they support killing all drains on our society" mean ajn678?

Is my Mother a drain because she gets help from the government to live in an assisted living home?

Is she a drain because she gets part of my Dad's Air Force pension and tri-care-for-life ?

According to the person that made the argument she would be, yes.

 

[AGENT J]

Paul Ryan: GOP will defund Planned Parenthood - CNNPolitics.com

It's starting... The slip into the abyss of stupidity.

Oh wait, I'm sure the GOP has a grand plan on what to do with all the babies? I can hardly wait to hear it.

The retardation and stupidity of the Planned Parenthood witch hunt as always entertained me. LOL

And for the record, its not all the GOP (I know YOU aren't saying that thats what the article says) many righties are fine with PP and the healthcare they provide. Said it before and Ill say it again, haven't checked the numbers recently but there are like 33 PPs in my state and 11 do abortion. Yet every hospital in the area that I know off do them. LMAO Like I said, the witch hunt for PP is beyond stupid and it would only hurt people and their healthcare.

 

[Hawkeye10]

The retardation and stupidity of the Planned Parenthood witch hunt as always entertained me. LOL

And for the record, its not all the GOP (I know YOU aren't saying that thats what the article says) many righties are fine with PP and the healthcare they provide. Said it before and Ill say it again, haven't checked the numbers recently but there are like 33 PPs in my state and 11 do abortion. Yet every hospital in the area that I know off do them. LMAO Like I said, the witch hunt for PP is beyond stupid and it would only hurt people and their healthcare.

You might cool your jets until Trump makes his decision.

I doubt he lets Ryan and his band of idiots do this.

 

[MaggieD]

The Federal Govt. is not paying for abortions, it is illegal. You are taking away the only source for mammograms and Pap smears in many locations.

What happened with the ACA?? Mammograms and Pap smears are free.

 

[AGENT J]

You might cool your jets until Trump makes his decision.

I doubt he lets Ryan and his band of idiots do this.

What on gods green earth are you talking about? LMAO

 

[Hawkeye10]

What on gods green earth are you talking about? LMAO

You know what I am talking about, and so does everyone else.

We are not 8 years old.

Do better.

 

[Hatuey]

What on gods green earth are you talking about? LMAO

Shh, don't feed Trump supporters like him. He likes to literally highlight the words 'God' and 'Trump' in some dirty gold color.

We shouldn't encourage that sort of behavior.

 

[JayDubya]

It's ironic, as the GOP claims to be "pro-life", and yet they propose this pro-abortion policy.

Not giving money to the McDonalds of contract killing is "pro-abortion."

Sure thing, fam.

 

[AGENT J]

You know what I am talking about, and so does everyone else.

We are not 8 years old.

Do better.

SO you can't explain what you are talking about and you are dodging my question? LMAO thats what I thought!
Le us know when you can answer, thanks!

 

[AGENT J]

Shh, don't feed Trump supporters like him. He likes to literally highlight the words 'God' and 'Trump' in some dirty gold color.

We shouldn't encourage that sort of behavior.

LMAO
whats funny is nothing in his post has anything to do with mine. Not one single part of it.

 

[Hatuey]

LMAO
whats funny is nothign in his post has anything to do with mine. Not one single part of it.

Trump's victory has led some people to believe they have special powers over political discussions.

The whole thing is weird, cult like.

 

[CanadaJohn]

The fact that PP is the only source of abortions in many locations does not in any way degrade the fact that they are in the business of women's health and abortions are a tiny part. Abortions is a SC guaranteed right in this country and the Govt. has no right to limit that anyway.

My understanding of constitutional law would indicate that the government must guarantee not to impede access to a right, not that they must provide or fund that access.

I'm sure that PP does many terrific things - many charities do - but the government is not obligated to fund those good deeds. I feel confident in saying that many people, like me, would have zero objection to the government funding most all of what PP does, if they didn't also provide abortion services out of the same facilities. The linkage is the issue for many.

 

[CanadaJohn]

That is a logical fallacy. Calling people dishonest and hypocritical isn't rational discussion.

I know this is complex, but think a little bit. Relationships can be complex. Some relationships are parasitic, some are symbiotic. It's possible for me to pay you more than the value of the services I receive on my own and for me to obtain from you more than the value of goods or services I use. It's called the way business works.

Funny how many on the left think that arrogance is a positive character trait for them in debate/discussions.

 

[Absentglare]

Not giving money to the McDonalds of contract killing is "pro-abortion."

Sure thing, fam.

It is when the McDonalds of "contract killing" is the leading purveyor of eliminating the need for "contract killing."

 

[Hawkeye10]

SO you can't explain what you are talking about and you are dodging my question? LMAO thats what I thought!
Le us know when you can answer, thanks!

So you not only turn in crap work but you are overly emotional to boot...

Good to know.

:bon_voyag

 

[CanadaJohn]

Then problem settled. The GOP's (and let's face it - the American Conservative movement's) ultimate goal is to crumble away at a woman's right to chose until that no longer exists. Canadians like yourself don't have that problem because you don't have an entire subsection of your society with enough money to put fundamentalist Christians in power to any meaningful degree.

I don't care what you abhor or even for that matter feel icky about. There are plenty of issues I feel icky about, I don't go on crusades calling the people/organizations/programs funded by those taxes 'murderers' or sub-human beings. The people on the anti-choice side do - see some of JayDubyah's post. Hell, even 'tres borrachos' a supposed 'moderate' right winger calls them 'irresponsible' simply because they had an abortion. Irrespective of the reason behind that abortion. Do Canadian women have that problem with the Canadian right wing? I seriously doubt it.

You want to back people like him and her using their same bull**** arguments which aim to eventually get rid of abortion altogether? Go for it. Just don't expect me to believe that the conversation Americans are having is about the involvement of government in abortion. We're not. We're having a conversation on the choice to either get abortion or carry a pregnancy to term.

Maybe Canadians are having a conversation a conversation on Gvt involvement?

The conversation in the US about whether we'll have the choice or we won't. One side wants to have that choice, the other wants to remove it for everyone else.

Fair enough - I can't speak to what other people have in their hearts or their rationale for the positions they hold. I can only speak for myself. I'm not a religious person, so religion has no hold or sway on my position on the issue. I simply believe that there are some things that government should not be funding

As for Canadians, as I've said many times previously - in Canada, liberals are much like liberals in the US - they favour government intrusion and quasi control of all facets of society and those who reside in it. In Canada, conservatives are for the most part socially liberal because we have no desire to have the government in any way involved in our personal, private, lives. Abortion is basically a non-issue here, except for a very small religious minority more closely associated with the Catholic Church. Abortion is simply viewed as almost any other medical procedure that requires a doctor to prescribe.

I'm not sure how you in the US get there, but here it's a non-issue and it's a private affair. Since the death of Henry Morgentaler and for a couple of decades prior to his death, abortion hasn't been a public policy discussion on either side of the issue. That could, possibly, be because it's a service provided under our single payer healthcare system and thus not something that is paraded before the public on a regular basis. One would have thought, with the advent of the ACA in the US and the requirement for contraceptive supplies/services being mandated benefits in all insurance packages, the need for places like PP would gradually decrease. However, that seems not to be the case. But that could also be related to PP protecting their vested interest in the issue.

Anyway, this is beyond the discussion the thread was created to address.

 

[AGENT J]

So you not only turn in crap work but you are overly emotional to boot...

Good to know.

:bon_voyag

Translation: you still can't tell us what you were talking about LMAO
again that's what we thought!!

lets us know when you can!
opcorn2:

 

[Moderate Right]

PP isn't just abortions. In fact it is only 3% of what they do.

Truly you are throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Then all they have to do is drop 3% of what they do and they will get federal funding.

 

[VanceMack]

I'll tell you what...
next time you want to make another of your trivial points, why not just drop the retarded semantics and post a substantiating link with your claims instead of playing some game of "gotcha".

kaythanx:2wave:

Look...Im sorry you feel stupid. Im sorry you made yourself look stupid. Thats no excuse to accuse me of lying and then later to try and make your continued screw up about me. I get that you are like so many people on the left reeeallly reaaaaaaallllyyyyy unhinged over this hole election result and I know how bad you feel. So I'ma jes let this whole thing go and just have good thoughts for you.