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Panel has 'firsthand' testimony Trump was asked to stop riots

Acadia said:
Yeah, him and Snerdley.

Rush was an entertainer, and he was unstoppable, harnessing America's greatness and promise. His outsized talent has not been matched by anyone on the Left.

Which would appear to be why Rush still lives rent free, even in death.

Maybe you could give Joy Reid a talk radio show. Chris Cuomo. Oh, sorry, he had one.

Had one.
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He didn’t harness anything other than the worst instincts in American politics. His audience was ill informed, and easily led. Limbaugh grew up in a small town in the Midwest. So he was attuned to what his audience wanted to hear, and he held the mirror up to them every day. He magnified all their fears, dog whistled to the racism inherent in many in his audience, and promoted a world view that Warren Harding would have found progressive.

He was an entertainer, one who knew how to exploit the opportunity that the change In FCC regulations opened up. At his height, he was a talk show kingmaker, able to force many small town radio stations and small networks across the country to accept a whole stable of lessor talkers in order to get Limbaugh. And he owned part of a company that hired actors to read talking point on cue, standing by in case the show needed juicing up.

He never unleashed anything other than the world instincts of no nothings across the nation. It took Trump to grab the reigns and then try and take over.

But make no mistake, Trump is Limbaugh’s legacy.
 
TomFitz said:
He didn’t harness anything other than the worst instincts in American politics. His audience was ill informed, and easily led. Limbaugh grew up in a small town in the Midwest. So he was attuned to what his audience wanted to hear, and he held the mirror up to them every day. He magnified all their fears, dog whistled to the racism inherent in many in his audience, and promoted a world view that Warren Harding would have found progressive.

He was an entertainer, one who knew how to exploit the opportunity that the change In FCC regulations opened up. At his height, he was a talk show kingmaker, able to force many small town radio stations and small networks across the country to accept a whole stable of lessor talkers in order to get Limbaugh. And he owned part of a company that hired actors to read talking point on cue, standing by in case the show needed juicing up.

He never unleashed anything other than the world instincts of no nothings across the nation. It took Trump to grab the reigns and then try and take over.

But make no mistake, Trump is Limbaugh’s legacy.
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Not even close. See, if you'd have listened to Rush like I did in 2015 and 2016, you'd know that Rush didn't come around to supporting Trump until way into the election.
 
Acadia said:
Yeah, him and Snerdley.

Rush was an entertainer, and he was unstoppable, harnessing America's greatness and promise. His outsized talent has not been matched by anyone on the Left.

Which would appear to be why Rush still lives rent free, even in death.

Maybe you could give Joy Reid a talk radio show. Chris Cuomo. Oh, sorry, he had one.

Had one.
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The left wing doesn’t bother with moron fodder like talk radio.

And none of us would treat it as a source of news, unlike much of the right wing audience.
 
Acadia said:
Not even close. See, if you'd have listened to Rush like I did in 2015 and 2016, you'd know that Rush didn't come around to supporting Trump until way into the election.
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Weather Trump publicly supported Trump in 2016 or not is beside the point.

Limbaugh had been working for twenty five years on the mission of trivializing American politics and reducing it to cartoon level for an audience that never read a newspaper and seldom actually bothered with politics of government. He just told them what they already believed and let them repeat it back to them, day after day.

But he also fancied himself as a leader/celebrity, always dropping names and boasting about his importance. Until the occasional time when he made a fool of himself, and cried that he was just an entertainter.

Donald Trump learned the lessons. Limbaugh reaffirmed what trump already knew, that you could lie to this audience pretty much constantly with no repurcussions at all…..as long as you said what they wanted to hear. They were both parvaues of the first order, and it showed. And both played victim, something that audience can’t get enough of.

That isn’t harnessing anything worth harnessing.
 
Acadia said:
Not even close. See, if you'd have listened to Rush like I did in 2015 and 2016, you'd know that Rush didn't come around to supporting Trump until way into the election.
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Rush never ever supported any candidate until after they win the primaries. He never wanted to be seen to be backing the wrong horse. He did however admit that Trump was not a conservative
 
RAMOSS said:
Ah, diversionary tactics. This sword is not one that cuts in both directions. There is this little thing known as 'evidence' and 'motivation' that you are ignoring.
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Silly response.. She had management responsibilities for Capital security.
President Trump did not.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., one of only two Republicans on the committee told ABC News' This Week that the committee has "firsthand testimony" that Trump was sitting in the dining room next to the Oval Office watching the riots unfold on television, noting that the White House briefing room was "just a mere few steps" away.
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I wonder if he was eating Colonel Sander's original or extra crispy while enjoying the insurrection. My bets on extra crispy.
 
Acadia said:
Yeah, him and Snerdley.

Rush was an entertainer, and he was unstoppable, harnessing America's greatness and promise. His outsized talent has not been matched by anyone on the Left.

Which would appear to be why Rush still lives rent free, even in death.

Maybe you could give Joy Reid a talk radio show. Chris Cuomo. Oh, sorry, he had one.

Had one.
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Hey, he is sober 11 months now!
 
Lutherf said:
It's "Commander in Chief", not "and". Also, the President does not have responsibility for protection of the Capitol unless we are at war. The protection of the Capitol is the responsibility, ultimately, of the Capitol Police Board which includes both the House and Senate Sergeants at Arms. The Sergeants at Arms report to the Speaker of the House and the Senate Majority Leader. You may have noticed that none of those people have yet been called by the 1/6 Committee.
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Exhoneration! Again 😃
 
Lutherf said:
The Sergeants at Arms report to the Speaker of the House and the Senate Majority Leader. You may have noticed that none of those people have yet been called by the 1/6 Committee.
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Interesting. Apparently you know every person that has been called. Is there a list somewhere you can share?
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
Of course, there would likely be a new Commander-in-Chief in office in a VERY short period of time if that were to happen.
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How certain are you about that?
 
switt said:
How certain are you about that?
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If the President of the United States of America were to order that all members of the USMC had to wear "$2.00 Hooker Red" lipstick and purple wigs?

Let's say that I'd be willing to bet the ranch on that president being "replaced" within 24 hours.
 
MaryP said:
My first reaction was, Where has the Committee been for the last year? We already know people were calling and telling him to call off the dogs. Sure, Liz, we already know he was watching it on tv and didn't do anything. Known it since Jan 7.

Maybe if a general testified to it, maybe it was someone more official who 'told' him to call it off? Does that matter? Because otherwise, this is a pretty pathetic newsflash.
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Firsthand testimony...that's the whole point of the story and the thread.
Why does testimony have to come from a general when we have staffers who witnessed it?
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
Actually the orders do NOT "need to be rational" they only need to be "legal". If they are "legal" than not following them is a military offence. If they are believed to be NOT legal, that may establish a defence for not following them. If that is the defence, and the orders are judicially determined NOT to be legal, then that is a sufficient defence. If that is the defence, and the orders are judicially determined TO BE legal, then that is NOT a sufficient defence (although the belief may be taken into account as a mitigating factor in sentencing).

Quite frankly, if the Commander-in-Chief were to order that all members of the USMC must wear "$2.00 Hooker Red" lipstick and purple wigs when on duty, they would have to do so as such an order, no matter how irrational, would actually be legal.

Of course, there would likely be a new Commander-in-Chief in office in a VERY short period of time if that were to happen.
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www.militarytimes.com

This is why the National Guard didn’t respond to the attack on the Capitol

The response to the siege on the Capitol was mired in red tape.
www.militarytimes.com www.militarytimes.com

I don't know this source, they have an explanation , the NG was not arranged beforehand and then this-

“We wanted to make sure, based off what we saw developing, that that was an acceptable use, all the way up to the SECDEF, which didn’t take long,” the source said, including about half an hour spent relaying the request to acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller."

The NG can't react until the paperwork is done?

Say it ain't so 😳
 
NuffSaid said:
Trump enjoyed watching his idiotic cult try and hang Mike Pence.

I wonder if he put on his dictator hat and began practicing his speech.
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How much enjoyment could he have derived from it when it ended in disappointment? Mike Pence wasn't hanged in the end. Can you imagine what a crushing blow that was to Trump?
 
soap box said:
www.militarytimes.com

This is why the National Guard didn’t respond to the attack on the Capitol

The response to the siege on the Capitol was mired in red tape.
www.militarytimes.com www.militarytimes.com

I don't know this source, they have an explanation , the NG was not arranged beforehand and then this-

“We wanted to make sure, based off what we saw developing, that that was an acceptable use, all the way up to the SECDEF, which didn’t take long,” the source said, including about half an hour spent relaying the request to acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller."

The NG can't react until the paperwork is done?

Say it ain't so 😳
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The telephone calls should have been similar to these

CALL #1
"This is Donald Trump, the President of the United States of America and your Commander-in-Chief. You will immediately deploy as many members of the District of Columbia National Guard to surround and protect the capital buildings. How soon can you have the first soldiers in place?"​

"Can you give me a minute to find out?"​

"Sure. Call me back, I'm at the White House in the Situation Room and the switchboard has been instructed to put your call straight through to me."

CALL #2
"This is the Commanding General of the District of Columbia National Guard. Am I speaking to the Secretary of Defence or his designate? I am. Good. I have a question. Is the President of the United States of America authorized to mobilize the District of Columbia National Guard and order its members deployed to protect the capital building?​

"Yes."​

"OK. Thanks.

"Wait a minute."​

"Yes."

"Since you are so obviously incompetent and unfamiliar with the laws of the United States of America you are to immediately turn your command over to your second-in-command. You will them place yourself under house arrest and hold yourself in readiness for the Board of Inquiry that will determine your fitness to command American troops."​

CALL #3
"Hello, White House? This is the new commanding general of the District of Columbia National Guard returning the President's call.

. . . .[call is transferred] . . . .

"Hello Mr. President. This is the commanding general of the District of Columbia National Guard speaking. The first troops will be on the ground within 30 minutes. Heavy weapons and armoured vehicles should start arriving within 30 minutes of that. Is it only the capital buildings that you need protected or do you want a cordon of troops around the White House as well?​
 
Acadia said:
Yeah, him and Snerdley.

Rush was an entertainer, and he was unstoppable, harnessing America's greatness and promise. His outsized talent has not been matched by anyone on the Left.

Which would appear to be why Rush still lives rent free, even in death.

Maybe you could give Joy Reid a talk radio show. Chris Cuomo. Oh, sorry, he had one.

Had one.
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Rush Limbaugh was nothing more than a propagandist. He was a good propagandist, but he was a propagandist nonetheless. His job was to make arguments Republicans and the Republican base could use to take political power and keep it.
 
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