Pam Geller's Response [W:725]

[Blemonds]

my last post in this thread:

there is a difference between "exercising free speech" and "being an asshole". "exercising free speech" can be either stupid, smart, terrible, or great depending on what's said. I haven't once indicated that I disagree with her right to be an asshole, and I haven't once indicated that the terrorists who wanted to kill her are anything but the scum of the earth. i take the topic of free speech very seriously, because it is, by far, the most important right we have in this country. that doesn't mean I'm not going to call people out for being ****ty people.

Changes nothing I said

 

[Blemonds]

Did you notice how nobody has condoned the terrorists actions? Pay attention and wake up.



Nobody wants us to censor... people want others to not be assholes for no reason though... are you actually incapable of understanding this or is it just a dishonesty thing?

Practice what you preach

 

[TurtleDude]

Other than it being very disrespectful and that it illuminates their core being as a person there is nothing legally wrong with doiong so...

why should we respect the prophet of the people who cause 99% of the terrorism these days?

 

[Fletch]

why should we respect the prophet of the people who cause 99% of the terrorism these days?

Why is it the same people critical of Pam Geller, viewed the cartoonists at Charlie Hebdo as heroic? Because she is conservative and they were liberals. Everything is political with the left. Everything.

 

[vesper]

She is not legally guilty of anything but SHE IS guilty of being a bitch... When comparing her to terrorist the problem she represents is very minor but make no mistake, she is a problem. She is divisive and a bitch.

You are a perfect example of one of the "but boys" that Mark Steyn described in the article I posted earlier. You claim to believe in free speech BUT only the free speech you see fit. Well pal that is why we have the freedom. So folks like you can't determine what is "allowed". Free speech rights are there to protect those you don't agree with and protect you against those who do not like the crap you spew.

 

[Grant]

When she acts as recruiting sergeant for extremist dip****s, she IS part of the problem. Same with De Wilde and that redneck, Koran-burning pastor, and that idiot film-maker. That those extremist dip****s can be provoked to such murderous behaviour is the greater problem, but it's not the only factor. Those bigoted provocateurs are definitely a part of the problem.

Well then we'll just have to avoid any criticisms against Islam, real or imagined, and be very circumspect in any behavior which may possibly be misconstrued. Do you think that this may stop them from their beheadings of Christians, murdering Gays, wiping out Israel, destroying the lives of little girls and honor killings?

I hope you're right.

 

[TurtleDude]

Well then we'll just have to avoid any criticisms against Islam, real or imagined, and be very circumspect in any behavior which may possibly be misconstrued. Do you think that this may stop them from their beheadings of Christians, murdering Gays, wiping out Israel, destroying the lives of little girls and honor killings?

I hope you're right.

you might ask him what the islamist terrorists have to say about gay rights. the fact is, lots of things our leftist friends support-gay rights, etc, offends these islamist extremists

so if we should prevent people from lampooning their prophet lest they kill innocents, should we suppress PDA among gays? women wearing say anything above the ankle? women driving cars?

 

[Grant]

She is not legally guilty of anything but SHE IS guilty of being a bitch... When comparing her to terrorist the problem she represents is very minor but make no mistake, she is a problem. She is divisive and a bitch.

And, not only that, you claimed she is anti-islam! She has gone too far!

This lady is a ****ing moron. If she had guts she would be standing in front of the building next time with a sign proclaiming her the organizer. What a bitch.

I didn't say that she was partially responsible for the violence... but you continue to fail at reading little buddy. :lol:

I didn't say that she is guilty of a crime. I said that she holds some blame.

You seem to be all over the map here, little buddy.

 

[Grant]

you might ask him what the islamist terrorists have to say about gay rights. the fact is, lots of things our leftist friends support-gay rights, etc, offends these islamist extremists

so if we should prevent people from lampooning their prophet lest they kill innocents, should we suppress PDA among gays? women wearing say anything above the ankle? women driving cars?

They'll support Gay rights unless they are on the opposite side of the political fence. Then all bets are off.

 

[winston53660]

you might ask him what the islamist terrorists have to say about gay rights. the fact is, lots of things our leftist friends support-gay rights, etc, offends these islamist extremists

Well that is a real red herring because nobody around here supports terrorist of any stripe!

 

[TurtleDude]

Well that is a real red herring because nobody around here supports terrorist of any stripe!

some think criticism that might upset terrorists should be forbidden

I say mock them and draw them out in the open

and then kill them as fast as possible

under our terms

 

[Grant]

Well that is a real red herring because nobody around here supports terrorist of any stripe!

While that may be true how do you account for so much criticism of Geller and so little about the Islamists?

 

[Grant]

some think criticism that might upset terrorists should be forbidden

I say mock them and draw them out in the open

and then kill them as fast as possible

under our terms

They have to start earlier before waiting for Jihadists to arrive at a parking lot with sub-machine guns. Any serious threats should be handled immediately and discretely in a time of war.

 

[Bodi]

I disagree. we are at war with extremist islam. I see nothing wrong with lampooning that which they hold dear.

Lampooning hate is holding something dear?

bring the Fundi-bandits out in the open where they can be eliminated.

And when an innocent child that you love is gunned down I am sure you will say the same thing... c'mon TD, get real.

 

[Bodi]

Practice what you preach

Great debate style... guess you lose.

 

[Bodi]

why should we respect the prophet of the people who cause 99% of the terrorism these days?

Don't. Hold onto hate and fuel the fire instead. See how much that helps you out.

 

[Bodi]

You are a perfect example of one of the "but boys" that Mark Steyn described in the article I posted earlier. You claim to believe in free speech BUT only the free speech you see fit. Well pal that is why we have the freedom. So folks like you can't determine what is "allowed". Free speech rights are there to protect those you don't agree with and protect you against those who do not like the crap you spew.

You area clown that has no idea what I believe in... as I am clearly for all free speech I will wish you a good day.

 

[TurtleDude]

Lampooning hate is holding something dear?



And when an innocent child that you love is gunned down I am sure you will say the same thing... c'mon TD, get real.

you labor under the delusion that the only time the scum will kill innocent children is after someone makes fun of their dear leader

 

[TurtleDude]

Don't. Hold onto hate and fuel the fire instead. See how much that helps you out.

not me, I am holding on to laughter that comes from lampooning the haters' prophet

 

[vesper]

You area clown that has no idea what I believe in... as I am clearly for all free speech I will wish you a good day.

Sorry, you like several others at DP make that claim but it seems to disintegrate under pressure. "But Boys", ......that be you!

 

[Bodi]

you labor under the delusion that the only time the scum will kill innocent children is after someone makes fun of their dear leader

Nice deflection... :roll:

not me, I am holding on to laughter that comes from lampooning the haters' prophet

She was not lampooning... she was holding a contest to purposely express hatred.

 

[TurtleDude]

Nice deflection... :roll:



She was not lampooning... she was holding a contest to purposely express hatred.

I was laughing at it. I guess she failed.

and its not deflection. You seem to think the only time those scumbags might kill innocents is when some right wing gadfly pokes fun at their glorious prophet.

that is contrary to known fact

 

[Bodi]

I was laughing at it. I guess she failed.

and its not deflection. You seem to think the only time those scumbags might kill innocents is when some right wing gadfly pokes fun at their glorious prophet.

that is contrary to known fact

It is a deflection. You think that free speech "contests" like this are fine. Will you be preaching that same tune when an innocent kid is killed?

 

[TurtleDude]

It is a deflection. You think that free speech "contests" like this are fine. Will you be preaching that same tune when an innocent kid is killed?

why will a kid be killed? should we suppress free speech because assholes who will use any excuse to commit terrorism might engage in terrorism

I think you are playing a straw child argument. trying to pretend we are responsible for what a terrorist does

sorry, I don't buy it and its a BS argument

 

[Bodi]

I think you are playing a straw child argument.

Yeah, if I am honest I guess that I am.