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Palestinians cheering Tel Aviv murders - 2016

oneworld2 said:
It's a subjective thing and thus presents issues along those lines. Extrajudicial killings are, imo, highly suspect/wrong no matter who does them to whoever else. Your posts indicate it just depends on who does it to whom, which is not a conviction to the principle imo but a bias.

Some Palestinians might hold that Israeli leaderships, past and present, are/were made up of terrorists. Or even US leaderships.

The comment was made, recall the context, about how the state of Israel interferes with Palestinian elections/politics. If Palestinians were assassinating US candidates on the grounds that their voting into office would mean the ongoing state terrorism meted out to them would be sure to carry on or increase, you would not support it.
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Blah blah bias blah....

Yes or no?

Is the killing of a terrorist a bad thing?
 
Fledermaus said:
I understand.... From 1948 onwards they have been given the shitty end of the stick. Lost to the Israelis, betrayed by both Egypt and Jordan. Heartbroken again in 1967 when land went from one master to another master. Then a glimmer of light when Gaza was given back.

Which they promptly turned into a armed camp from which to launch terrorist attacks.

The only people who can solve this is the Palestinian people...

They chose poorly over a half a century ago and still continue to choose poorly.
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Do you realize that Gazans aren't allowed to leave even if they wanted to? It's almost impossible for them to legally emigrate.

No airport to fly out of. No ships to take them anywhere. No land border that allows practically none of them through.

They live in the world's biggest outdoor prison. You really expect them not to behave as prisoners? You really expect them not to be vulnerable to the false hope that Hamas gives them?
 
Fledermaus said:
Blah blah bias blah....

Yes or no?

Is the killing of a terrorist a bad thing?
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Applying a different standard to the same thing, in this case extrajudicial killings, purely based on who is the victim and who is the perpetrator IS showing a bias.

HTH
 
Fledermaus said:
Focus.

Killing terrorist.

Good?

Bad?
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You do realize that extrajudicial killings, by definition, do not confer any criminality all by themselves ? That's why we have courts and trials with evidence and counter evidence etc etc

Some people just think everything is just black and white, others see them in varying shades of grey on most occasions.
 
Phys251 said:
Do you realize that Gazans aren't allowed to leave even if they wanted to? It's almost impossible for them to legally emigrate.

No airport to fly out of. No ships to take them anywhere. No land border that allows practically none of them through.

They live in the world's biggest outdoor prison. You really expect them not to behave as prisoners? You really expect them not to be vulnerable to the false hope that Hamas gives them?
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What of the Egyptian border?

There is no airport operations because it will be a nexus for attack. Think 9/11.
 
oneworld2 said:
You do realize that extrajudicial killings, by definition, do not confer any criminality all by themselves ? That's why we have courts and trials with evidence and counter evidence etc etc

Some people just think everything is just black and white, others see them in varying shades of grey on most occasions.
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Good?

Bad?
 
Fledermaus said:
It kinda is.
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I gave you some meat on the bones on it and you replied with " blah,blah , bias, blah " and then roll out the question again. It ain't conducive to constructive debate imo. Hence.........
 
oneworld2 said:
I gave you some meat on the bones on it and you replied with " blah,blah , bias, blah " and then roll out the question again. It ain't conducive to constructive debate imo. Hence.........
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What more is required?

Either killing terrorists is a good thing or a bad thing.
 
Fledermaus said:
What more is required?

Either killing terrorists is a good thing or a bad thing.
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To you probably nothing. The world is just black and white, one side good, one side bad, one side whose crimes should be denounced, one side whose crimes should be defended. one side with rights, one side without them, one side are a people, the other side are not, and on and on

The circumstances ? the evidence ?

If you were going to get it you would have by now.
 
oneworld2 said:
To you probably nothing. The world is just black and white, one side good, one side bad, one side whose crimes should be denounced, one side whose crimes should be defended. one side with rights, one side without them, one side are a people, the other side are not, and on and on

The circumstances ? the evidence ?

If you were going to get it you would have by now.
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Circumstances?

Terrorists

Evidence?

Admitted to slaughtering or ordering the slaughter of innocent civilians.
 
Fledermaus said:
We have been enemies with a number of countries... I don't remember masses of people in the US taking to the streets cheering the deaths of innocent civilians... Do you?
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To them it’s justice for their Israeli cronies genociding them

Of course I disagree but it’s to be expected from them
 
Fledermaus said:
Your trolling needs work...

NO RUBLES FOR YOU!
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Your self control is what needs work imo. How do you get away with this junk posting /rule breaking all the time ?
 
Fledermaus said:
If it offends you the 'REPORT' button is there to be used.
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Who said it offends them ?

It just makes your many posts citing the rules here all the more ridiculous.
 
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