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According to the petition, Trump’s crimes against good taste are legion. Among other things, he has:
– Long engaged in sexist behavior. Trump has a long record of personally attacking women he disagrees [with] by calling them “unattractive,” ugly or fat. He once sent a target a personal note telling her that she has the “face of a dog.”
– Hypocritically complained about jobs being shipped overseas to China, despite the fact that almost his entire clothing line sold at Macy’s is made in China and other Asian nations.
– Use his public platform to deny the reality of climate change. Following Hurricane Sandy, Trump publicly declared: “The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.”
– Perpetuated the racially charged birther conspiracy, repeatedly arguing that President Obama has been lying and was not born in the United States.
Donald Trump: Macy's urged to fire him | PopWatch | EW.com
I could care less about Trump, but Im concerned by the disrespect being shown for speech by americans of all ideologies against Trump and many others. While people are of course free to boycott and protest whatever they want, that doesnt mean they should use that freedom to try and silence others. I personally disagree with tons of celebrities, and never once have I suggested that their employers or customers should dump them simply because of the personal views that they hold or opinions that they make publicly.
Yet, this is happening more and more, primarily against conservatives. And I suspect the usual suspects will soon be in here to offer their opinion of Trump and make my point.
Donald Trump: Macy's urged to fire him | PopWatch | EW.com
I could care less about Trump, but Im concerned by the disrespect being shown for speech by americans of all ideologies against Trump and many others. While people are of course free to boycott and protest whatever they want, that doesnt mean they should use that freedom to try and silence others. I personally disagree with tons of celebrities, and never once have I suggested that their employers or customers should dump them simply because of the personal views that they hold or opinions that they make publicly.
Yet, this is happening more and more, primarily against conservatives. And I suspect the usual suspects will soon be in here to offer their opinion of Trump and make my point.
ObamaCare married the Federal government to Corporate America officially, while the bailouts did so financially, as did exempting student loans from bankruptcy and using SWAT teams to collect. People are so going to be required to do business with corporations and the government is already their armed-force bill collector.
Thus, petitioning major corporations is akin to petitioning government.
People are free to say whatever they want, and people who don't like what they say are free to choose to boycott them if they so desire. There's nothing in this that is against the law or the constitution. But I'll give you a non-political example. I think it was last year, that several business supporters to a TV station running a program about Muslim life in America pulled their advertising because the show did not paint all Muslims as terrorists. The big company, and the one that took the brunt of the damage in this, was Lowe's. People were upset that they could show such an intolerant attitude, so people boycotted them, signed petitions, sent emails, etc. I was one of those people. Now, Lowe's actually did nothing against the law, in fact, they were free to do as they did. But, how else were others such as myself to get the message across to them that we were not happy about their intolerant and bigoted attitude? Do I not have the right to boycott a company that I see as being intolerant and bigoted? Yes, I do have that right. And the only difference here is that some of Trump's statements and actions (let's not forget that not everything on that list is political), were politically motivated. Here's the kicker: did anyone of those people who wanted Trump fired or boycotted his company say that he did not have the right to say what he did? Not that I'm aware of. And let's not forget that conservatives are not innocent in this regard.
Donald Trump: Macy's urged to fire him | PopWatch | EW.com
I could care less about Trump, but Im concerned by the disrespect being shown for speech by americans of all ideologies against Trump and many others. While people are of course free to boycott and protest whatever they want, that doesnt mean they should use that freedom to try and silence others. I personally disagree with tons of celebrities, and never once have I suggested that their employers or customers should dump them simply because of the personal views that they hold or opinions that they make publicly.
Yet, this is happening more and more, primarily against conservatives. And I suspect the usual suspects will soon be in here to offer their opinion of Trump and make my point.
Donald Trump: Macy's urged to fire him | PopWatch | EW.com
I could care less about Trump, but Im concerned by the disrespect being shown for speech by americans of all ideologies against Trump and many others. While people are of course free to boycott and protest whatever they want, that doesnt mean they should use that freedom to try and silence others. I personally disagree with tons of celebrities, and never once have I suggested that their employers or customers should dump them simply because of the personal views that they hold or opinions that they make publicly.
Yet, this is happening more and more, primarily against conservatives. And I suspect the usual suspects will soon be in here to offer their opinion of Trump and make my point.
Primarily against conservatives?
I guess because it happened years ago we should forget what the right wing did against the Dixie Chicks.
Liberals are always so angry after they've won and then find that they're still disrespected by everyone.
Primarily against conservatives?
I guess because it happened years ago we should forget what the right wing did against the Dixie Chicks.
They crucified the Dixie Chicks and effectively destroyed their career because they had the nerve to criticize George Bush. But that's somehow OK.
No. I'm saying that the right wing destroyed people because they didn't like what they said.
Ban Trump...Ban Macy's...it's America and this is a non-issue.
What these petitioners are doing is itself an exercise of free speech. Macy's is a private company, and if it decides to kick Trump to the curb, there will be no violation of Trump's freedom of speech either.Donald Trump: Macy's urged to fire him | PopWatch | EW.com
I could care less about Trump, but Im concerned by the disrespect being shown for speech by americans of all ideologies against Trump and many others. While people are of course free to boycott and protest whatever they want, that doesnt mean they should use that freedom to try and silence others. I personally disagree with tons of celebrities, and never once have I suggested that their employers or customers should dump them simply because of the personal views that they hold or opinions that they make publicly.
Yet, this is happening more and more, primarily against conservatives. And I suspect the usual suspects will soon be in here to offer their opinion of Trump and make my point.
Donald Trump: Macy's urged to fire him | PopWatch | EW.com
I could care less about Trump, but Im concerned by the disrespect being shown for speech by americans of all ideologies against Trump and many others. While people are of course free to boycott and protest whatever they want, that doesnt mean they should use that freedom to try and silence others. I personally disagree with tons of celebrities, and never once have I suggested that their employers or customers should dump them simply because of the personal views that they hold or opinions that they make publicly.
Yet, this is happening more and more, primarily against conservatives. And I suspect the usual suspects will soon be in here to offer their opinion of Trump and make my point.
What these petitioners are doing is itself an exercise of free speech. Macy's is a private company, and if it decides to kick Trump to the curb, there will be no violation of Trump's freedom of speech either.
Once again, freedom of speech =/= freedom from the economic and social consequences of your speech.
If the point is only that people should exercise their freedom of speech in civil and responsible ways, these people are furthering that cause by challenging, boycotting and reprimanding one of the least civil and responsible speakers of all.Once again, the point is not about violating free speech, but civility.
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