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Ottawa's core locked down as police prepare to move on protesters

One of the protest leaders arrested yesterday is Daniel Bulford. He's a former RCMP officer who left after refusing to get vaccinated. He was previously part of the PM's protection detail.
 
trixare4kids said:
By Reagan? Your sources are where?
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Sorry, I got all muddled in the constant changing of topics and the back and forths. I was thinking of the wrong post. No not Reagan I believe most admired him.
 
Allan said:
Back to business for another day of horse tramplings and assaulting injured veterans and disabled elderly ladies.

The House is debating the Emergency Act right now. For anyone interested it can be live-streamed here.

Action on the streets is expected to get underway about 8:00 Eastern time.
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LOL
 
Allan said:
Back to business for another day of horse tramplings and assaulting injured veterans and disabled elderly ladies.

The House is debating the Emergency Act right now. For anyone interested it can be live-streamed here.

Action on the streets is expected to get underway about 8:00 Eastern time.
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Let's just hope that things stay relatively calm with both the police and the protesters show in restraint.
 
gbg3 said:
I'm not Canadian but I'll tackle this question. Unless someone lives in the riding (and ridings can be a VERY small number of voters) of the leader of the Conservative or Liberal party, they can't directly vote for that individual - or for the leader of any of the several other smaller parties (again, unless they live in the riding of that leader). Those two parties (Liberal and Conservative) are currently far and away the biggest of the parties such that, from one of the two, is where their PM will very likely come - because one of those two parties will win based on the number of ridings they won. So, in essence, it's a bit like the 2 big U.S. parties and the ridings function like our electoral college in that the popular vote doesn't necessarily determine the winner. I know in the last two elections, the Conservative party won the highest percentage of the popular vote but the Liberal party (of which Trudeau is the leader) won the number of ridings. MDP is the next most popular party and further left than the bigger Liberal party.
So, effectively, those who actually wanted to prevent Trudeau from being PM would have placed their vote for the Conservative party. A Conservative party win (by ridings) would have resulted in a Scheer PM (two elections ago) or an O'Toole PM (last year). But in the case of a liberal Canadian, a vote for the Conservative party would be somewhat like a Dem voting for Trump - an unlikely vote for a liberal. So, a liberal Canadian typically votes for the Liberal or MDP - and then says they can't stand Trudeau - whom they effectively put in office;)
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Thanks for that explanation. I'm now ferreting it out more thanks in part to our Canadian participants on DP. They have so much interest in our politics that it puzzles me. Is theirs too boring or are they jealous of ours. Or do they just have more curiosity than I. I'm not sure I would like living under it based on what I'm seeing Treudeau doing. But in fairness, we Americans did elect an idiot like Biden to lead our country.
 
One of the illegal protest leaders was released on bail yesterday. The bail conditions for Chris Barber are likely indicative of what other people arrested will have to abide by to get out of jail.

They include:
Leaving Ottawa within 24 hours and Ontario by Wednesday (he lives in Saskatchewan).
He has to update police daily on his location as he leaves the province of Ontario.
He cannot support the convoy in any way.
 
gbg3 said:
Jason Chaffetz just asked the trucker he was interviewing if Trudeau had met with them. The answer was no, he had yet to talk to them even once.
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I fail to see why he wouldn't. Even combative enemies will meet each other to negotiate a truce or surrender to end a war.
 
Overitall said:
Thanks for that explanation. I'm now ferreting it out more thanks in part to our Canadian participants on DP. They have so much interest in our politics that it puzzles me. Is theirs too boring
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Yes it's boring. There's usually little drama up here. For example we already know who our next three Heads of State are going to be.
Overitall said:
I'm not sure I would like living under it based on what I'm seeing Treudeau doing.
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You'd love it. Bring a parka.
 
Allan said:
Yes it's boring. There's usually little drama up here. For example we already know who our next three Heads of State are going to be.

You'd love it. Bring a parka.
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Your place would be my first stop if I ever managed to travel up there. :)
 
Overitall said:
Your place would be my first stop if I ever managed to travel up there. :)
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Company! I'll have to decorate the garage guest room.

I was thinking of hanging this over the wood-stove...

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Allan said:
Company! I'll have to decorate the garage guest room.

I was thinking of hanging this over the wood-stove...

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:ROFLMAO: My wife voted for him (which she reminds me of) so I think I can manage looking at his mug. Although he would look better in prison stripes.
 
Overitall said:
Thanks for that explanation. I'm now ferreting it out more thanks in part to our Canadian participants on DP. They have so much interest in our politics that it puzzles me. Is theirs too boring or are they jealous of ours. Or do they just have more curiosity than I. I'm not sure I would like living under it based on what I'm seeing Treudeau doing. But in fairness, we Americans did elect an idiot like Biden to lead our country.
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Jealous? OMG, that's priceless. 😆

How about this, Overtall. You fail to see the answer that right in front of your eyes. We are a small nation compared to the beast we "sit on." A lot of what happens in America (good or bad) has a direct affect on us. So yeah, that is why we care. Maybe it's selfish, I don't know. For the most part, Canadians love our neighbours to the south and share many commonalities. But this whole convoy crap is a direct result of what has transpired in the US (not including a good chunk of the funding!), especially in the last 5 years. You are losing your democracy and Americans are polarized more than ever. That worries me and it should worry you.
 
I remember when Dubya famously met the folks of OWS.
 
Overitall said:
Thanks for that explanation. I'm now ferreting it out more thanks in part to our Canadian participants on DP. They have so much interest in our politics that it puzzles me. Is theirs too boring or are they jealous of ours. Or do they just have more curiosity than I. I'm not sure I would like living under it based on what I'm seeing Trudeau doing. But in fairness, we Americans did elect an idiot like Biden to lead our country.
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Just to clarify a few things.....and no I'm not saying there was any misrepresentation in gbg3's post.

The PM is the leader of the Party that one the most seats. A new leader could be chosen at any time either by the sitting caucus or by a vote amongst all members of the Party. If a leader of a party were not to win their seat then the party would select someone else right away and continue as the elected party.

While it is true that the Conservatives won more actual votes than the Liberals that should not be seen as a preponderance of conservatives. The other major federal wide party NDP is left leaning....way left and the Bloc which , represents only Quebec, has a mix of both so the majority of Canadians are left leaning

ETA Gbg3 mentioned the "MDP", she did it twice so I don't think it was a typo but might be....it happens. The party is actually the NDP. Liberals have two large National Parties so they have a choice. There is only one conservative choice.......for now.
 
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Allan said:
It's on topic and you raised the idea that leaders should meet with protest leaders. When does that happen in the US? Did Trump meet with BLM leaders?
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Fair enough. Idk, if Trump ever did. He should have. But I do know that LBJ met with MLK. So we do have examples of our leaders meeting with protest leaders. Whether Canadians can say the same, I know not. My point remains regardless of whether Trump met with any protesters or not. He and Treudeau both should whenever it has a major impact on the affairs of the national interests. Surely you agree.
 
Callen said:
Just to clarify a few things.....and no I'm not saying there was any misrepresentation in gbg3's post.

The PM is the leader of the Party that one the most seats. A new leader could be chosen at any time either by the sitting caucus or by a vote amongst all members of the Party. If a leader of a party were not to win their seat then the party would select someone else right away and continue as the elected party.

While it is true that the Conservatives won more actual votes than the Liberals that should not be seen as a preponderance of conservatives. The other major party is left leaning....way left and the Bloc which is the next biggest has a mix of both so the majority of Canadians are left leaning
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So much to digest. Maybe I should have a second cup of coffee to clear out the cobwebs in my head.

Thanks.
 
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