Ottawa's core locked down as police prepare to move on protesters

[JANFU]

I can find no evidence of that. According to what I can find much of it depends on it being as a result of not paying your debts either to a place of business or not paying your taxes to the government.

Who Can Freeze Your Bank Account in Canada?

If you're currently dealing with a frozen bank account, we have all the information you need to regain access and prevent it from happening again.

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I did find, however, that the EA is the legal instrument by which the accounts of those associated with the protest are being frozen.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/emergencies-act-banks-ottawa-protests-1.6353968

If these accounts could have legally been frozen otherwise why invoke the EA to do so?

If you can cite the specific legal document under which Trudeau could have instructed the banks to freeze accounts please cite it.

All he said was
Bank accounts are regularly frozen in Canada for all sorts of reasons.

which is true

 

[Overitall]

All he said was
Bank accounts are regularly frozen in Canada for all sorts of reasons.

which is true

There's a process and legitimate reason for that. My link made that clear. But if he or you can cite a legal document by which Trudeau could have done it otherwise then I'll look at it. Otherwise why use the EA?

 

[Callen]

Unfortunately for many that had their bank accounts frozen and/or insurance cancelled the damage has already been done.

Truckers insurance actually cancelled? I suppose if you say so.

 

[Fishking]

Is your link law in Canada?
I just love it when the RW quote the UN on Human Rights.

Wonder when Rs in the States will ban that from topic being taught in schools

You decided you're going to stick with that dumb**** flawed point? Lol...I guess you understand you got nothing, don't you.

 

[trixare4kids]

Sad to see some of the videos coming out.

 

[Overitall]

Truckers insurance actually cancelled? I suppose if you say so.

You didn't read my link, did ya? Had you you would have read this.

The government is also ordering insurance companies to suspend policies on vehicles that are part of an unlawful "public assembly."

 

[Callen]

These clips will all be investigated by the independent committee. No way the Conservatives will let it go if true.

 

[Allan]

The government is also ordering insurance companies to suspend policies on vehicles that are part of an unlawful "public assembly."

I disagree with this step. Is it the Province doing it, or the Federal Government?

 

[Overitall]

Sad to see some of the videos coming out.

I've heard that some associated with the protest are also being denied bail. Hitler would be flattered by Trudeau.

 

[trixare4kids]

Truckers insurance actually cancelled? I suppose if you say so.

It was suggested/pondered by officials in your country.

eta: source added

"When Ottawa police Chief Peter Sloly said last week that policing "might not be the solution" to end the demonstration, questions were raised about other potential ideas."

"Both the City of Ottawa and Ontario Ministry of Transportation officials have examined how to use commercial vehicle licensing and insurance to convince truckers to leave the capital, but it's also an unlikely tool."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/revoking-insurance-no-solution-to-trucker-protest-ottawa-1.6346759

 

[Allan]

I've heard that some associated with the protest are also being denied bail. Hitler would be flattered by Trudeau.

Many have made bail. There's three that haven't. One wouldn't agree to bail conditions, one couldn't meet the bail conditions (yet) and one will be decided tomorrow.

 

[Callen]

You didn't read my link, did ya? Had you you would have read this.

I didn't say it wasn't threatened but I am not aware of it actually being done....maybe just haven't read it and your link doesn't address the insurance.

 

[Overitall]

I didn't say it wasn't threatened but I am not aware of it actually being done....maybe just haven't read it and your link doesn't address the insurance.

BS!

 

[Callen]

BS!

K....

 

[JANFU]

From your link:

These rights were brought up previously by @trixare4kids and myself. It was dismissed. Apparently we weren't the only ones that thought people's rights were being violated. Unfortunately for many that had their bank accounts frozen and/or insurance cancelled the damage has already been done. And Trudeau and his supporters of this pathetic act are saying "Tough shit!"

Concerns have been raised
There was a defined list the Govt provided to banks
Any other accts frozen were decisions made by banks

If an acct on the list was frozen by mistake it will be quickly rectified. Govt is not going after the average Joanne or Joe.

If there were cases of a poor working single woman, min wage, working 2 jobs, raising kids having her acct frozen, well we have no proof that action was by Govt. direction.

Did you miss the link inside the link?

Well here is the missing link

 

[Allan]

I disagree with this step. Is it the Province doing it, or the Federal Government?

@Overitall you better check into this one - from what I've seen no insurance has been cancelled.

 

[Overitall]

Many have made bail. There's three that haven't. One wouldn't agree to bail conditions, one couldn't meet the bail conditions (yet) and one will be decided tomorrow.

I've only read about this one.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/tamara-lich-bail-convoy-february-22-1.6359925

And this was the judge's reasoning.

On Tuesday, the judge said she was not convinced Lich would go home, stay there and stop her alleged counselling.

Shaky grounds imo for denying bail. Was she a flight risk? This judge has already declared the woman guilty before trial. Is that how your system works?j

 

[Grand Mal]

But he can destroy peoples lives for protesting peacefully…ok….

Nobody's life was destroyed. You guys are positively addicted to hyperbole.
And those dumbass truckers disrupted hundreds of lives for weeks on end. That fiasco started on 28 Jan. There isn't another country in the world where the government would be that patient and tolerant.
**** sakes. Weeks. Those idiots were like your neighbour's stupid dog who started barking at a squirrel three hours ago and is still barking, stuck in bark mode and not knowing how to stop. Barking at an imaginary squirrel- the clowns were protesting against the wrong government.

 

[Overitall]

@Overitall you better check into this one - from what I've seen no insurance has been cancelled.

I read it in the link I supplied. Whether it took place or not it clearly stated what I quoted. The government has directed insurance policies to be suspended. If you've got a source saying the Government never authorized that let me see it.

 

[Allan]

I've only read about this one.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/tamara-lich-bail-convoy-february-22-1.6359925

There are three.

And this was the judge's reasoning.

Shaky grounds imo for denying bail. Was she a flight risk? This judge has already declared the woman guilty before trial. Is that how your system works?j

Actually that's good grounds. This person and her husband had credibility problems in court in that their story kept changing and they were not forthright. Anyone who agrees with the bail conditions and can meet them will be released as they're not going to be considered a threat.

And our system works the same as yours, with the exception that we don't allow for insurers to post bail.

 

[Overitall]

Concerns have been raised
There was a defined list the Govt provided to banks
Any other accts frozen were decisions made by banks

If an acct on the list was frozen by mistake it will be quickly rectified. Govt is not going after the average Joanne or Joe.

If there were cases of a poor working single woman, min wage, working 2 jobs, raising kids having her acct frozen, well we have no proof that action was by Govt. direction.

Did you miss the link inside the link?

Well here is the missing link

From your link.

We are now working with the banks to build a process to address the accounts that were frozen.

That's past tense.

 

[JANFU]

You decided you're going to stick with that dumb**** flawed point? Lol...I guess you understand you got nothing, don't you.

Is your link the Law in Canada. Rather simple question and what happens, temper up, riled and upset. Watch the BP, not good for the health

In order to lower that BP to a lower level, always have concern for another health, I will admit the link you provided is not Canadian Law.

And as far as I know not US Law.

Oops forgot about the BP issue.
Can we get a US Legal Expert here STAT

Emergency in the Canada thread, high BP

 

[Grand Mal]

Here’s the problem… ticketing & towing was not considered to be a good enough punishment for the “disobedient”.

In order to get the “disobedient” under control…the Government needed to use severe punishment!

According to the Government…The ”disobedient” deserved that severe type of punishment simply based on their “disobedience”.

The severe punishment is a type of “removal” from society.

The “type of removal” consists of seizing and selling their property. Results: Loss of income.

Freezing bank accounts and assets. Results: Inability to pay rent/mortgage/bills/food…etc.

Results: Potential eviction/foreclosure/lose of utilities/lack of food and necessities of life. Harmful conditions for their children and pets.

Results: No Governmental compassion whatsoever for it’s “disobedient” citizens. Just destruction of their lives from society via severe punishments.

With the permission of the “society” that condones and are in agreement with that Governmental severe punishment used on their fellow citizens.

imho

If you were an elderly woman having a heart attack in an apartment in downtown Ottawa, waiting for the ambulance to find a way to get to you, you might have a different opinion of that "disobedience". That protest started weeks ago, on 28 Jan.

 

[Allan]

I read it in the link I supplied. Whether it took place or not it clearly stated what I quoted. The government has directed insurance policies to be suspended. If you've got a source saying the Government never authorized that let me see it.

It was discussed as an option but insurance companies pushed back. There are laws regarding insurance coverage and it can't just be cancelled out of the blue.

 

[Overitall]

There are three.

Actually that's good grounds. This person and her husband had credibility problems in court in that their story kept changing and they were not forthright. Anyone who agrees with the bail conditions and can meet them will be released as they're not going to be considered a threat.

And our system works the same as yours, with the exception that we don't allow for insurers to post bail.

You have the court transcript?