The above is meaningless partisan noise.
Yeah, I do, with all the witnesses available, and the dna, the pictures, and so on, yes, i do believe it would be enough. now, if you come up with some reason to dioubt all of it, present it. But overall, so far, I see no reason to leap off the cliff.
Yeah, I do, with all the witnesses available, and the dna, the pictures, and so on, yes, i do believe it would be enough. now, if you come up with some reason to dioubt all of it, present it. But overall, so far, I see no reason to leap off the cliff.
There are no witnesses available. There is no way to prove DNA was taken from the body. So far there are no pictures. The reasons to doubt the story is because there has been changes in the story. But there's little doubt that the American people want to believe that Bin Laden was captured and is dead. There is really no reason why they should at this time.
there is some confusion, it is not me saying laden is dead, it is me saying where the body is. so it is you to prove he is dead , not me, ok? i prefer being skeptical to being naive .
Are Americans allowed to view Al Jazeera (english)? If so then that is a good place to start following the story. It will lead you to more links on the story and some more reasons to doubt the official story.
Bin Laden was captured alive. Or was not captured at all but was declared captured and killed to put the matter to rest... If the truth is that he was captured alive then pictures of him drugged unconscious will be produced with him made up to look dead. It will be quite easy to fake... There is only one reason to skew the facts of this drama. There can be no other legitimate reasons.
Daily Nation: - World |Neighbours speak well of OsamaMohammed Asif, who bakes traditional naan bread for five rupees apiece in his simple shop, was delighted he may have cooked bin Laden’s last supper.
“Arshad came and bought seven or eight naans. He used to do that twice a day, in the afternoon and in the evening.
“They were two Pashto brothers, one around 37 and the other 42, very kind people in the neighbourhood,” he said, referring to the Pashtun people of Afghanistan and northwest Pakistan. “They did not look like strangers; when we see a stranger, we notice it.”
Asked how he felt to have been bin Laden’s baker, Asif said: “I’m proud, because he was a hero who challenged America. I will tell my grandchildren that it was not our army that launched an offensive against him, it was the Americans.”
There is actually a positive to being naive, but that's another thread. I'm not convinced you would accept any evidence. What would it take?
so far i have not seen any evidence you provide, am i wrong?
Not sure that is the best soruce (sic)
Were not those there wittnesses? I think like birthers and truthers, you guys are reaching a bit.
First of all we need to determine who was there. Some of Bin Laden's relatives could have been there and were captured. The evidence we get from them would be strictly controlled. The only others there would be the helicopter teams and they will be sworn to secrecy. It's very unlikely that they will ever talk about it. And if they did talk about it, it would only be to confirm the official story. There are no witnesses available that can be trusted at this time. And there is no evidence that can be trusted.
If there is photo evidence forthcoming in the future then we will have to examine the evidence carefully. First, we will have to somehow determine that the body being shown is in fact Bin Laden. Then we will have to determine if it's a body or a drugged and alive person. If this is faked then it's an easy thing to do. This story will develop further over time but the postive thing the US gov has going for it is that it's popular. People like you will accept it for no rational reason other than it's a feel good story. Beware!
The fact is, it's the best source there is at the moment. Your reasons for rejecting it are only political.
Not sure that is the best soruce. Seriously.
Why? They're not American, but they broadcast in English from a relatively independent Arab viewpoint, and they're markedly less biased than Faux, for example.
Sorry, the above does not compute. Perhaps with a little time you will understand why.
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By going to Al Jazeera people don't have to automatically believe what they read. That would be silly. But they will get some different viewpoints and be awakened to asking more legitimate questions. Assuming that Americans are allowed to view Al Jazeera site. I believe the t.v. network if blacked out in the US.
They were there. And if they did not believe they got OBL, it would leak. See the entire Bush administration if you doubt me. Secrets are not as kept as they used to be. And I believe there will be photographic evidence, and it will be examined, and what is now be called proofers will likely do what birthers and truthers have done, and go wild. But, it is much more likley that what happened is exactly what has been reported.
Wrong, it's not balcked out.....we kinda frown on censorship here....
Ecofarm, now we are to believe that all the neighbours knew that Osama was living there? If you have rational comments to add that would help the story then produce them. Otherwise your objections come off as only that you want to believe. And they weaken the story more than they strengthen it.
We need to be able to examine the photo evidence. Nothing else will do and it's doubtful whether or not the photo evidence can put it to rest. The problems started when the official story started to change.
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