One of the best executive orders yet

[Lisa]

Actually, this is not about free speech.

This is about a truth that goes "If you take the king's coin, you shall do the king's bidding." The federal government is under no obligation to disperse funds unless there is a bonafide contract. Those in power can withdraw those funds for whatever reason they like whenever they like.

Another example of this was way back in the 1970's when Congress decided the states needed to lower their state speed limits to 55 mph. There was no way they could mandate a federal speed limit, so they simply tied federal highway funding to compliance. Any state that refused to lower their speed limit would risk losing tens of millions of federal funds. No state would dare risk it, and the speed limits came down across the nation.

Now, any school that does not comply with the demands of president Trump will pay a hefty price. That's what you get for taking federal money in the first place.

Public college campuses are under no obligation to become MAGAite rallies just because they take public funding.

 

[Stealers Wheel]

Public college campuses are under no obligation to become MAGAite rallies just because they take public funding.

You're right, and they can forego the funding if they choose as the federal government is under no obligation to provide those funds.

 

[Condor060]

What exactly are you attempting to imply?

Is it that hard to figure out?

1. The war is over.

2. The liberals have won.

3. This executive order will be immediately overturned by President Biden on his first day in office.

4. This changing country is going full-blown "progressive," like it or not.

5. As some activists have said, "If you don't like it, leave!"

6. If you want to study at an American university, keep your mouth shut if you disagree with politically correct mantras. Get your degree and don't look back.

Do what your told or else? Heil Hitler

 

[Deuce]

You're right, and they can forego the funding if they choose as the federal government is under no obligation to provide those funds.

And people are rightfully criticizing the "federal funds become dependent on your approval of the president" concept, yes.

 

[Deuce]

Do what your told or else? Heil Hitler

I mean Trump is literally saying "if you don't support me I'm pulling your funding," so...

 

[Condor060]

I mean Trump is literally saying "if you don't support me I'm pulling your funding," so...

I believe he said follow the law or I will pull your funding. When all you have is exaggerations to argue a point, its time to walk away.

 

[Moon]

I mean Trump is literally saying "if you don't support me I'm pulling your funding," so...

I’m wondering if you understand what the word “literally” means.

 

[Hypothetical]

Do what your told or else? Heil Hitler

more like Heil Hillary LOL

 

[Lisa]

Is it that hard to figure out?

1. The war is over.

I wasn't aware that there was a war?

2. The liberals have won.

What did they win?

3. This executive order will be immediately overturned by President Biden on his first day in office.

I hope the next POTUS isn't Biden. I want a progressive and not a centrist conservative.

4. This changing country is going full-blown "progressive," like it or not.

What is the downside of progress? You still have the very same rights that you have always had.

5. As some activists have said, "If you don't like it, leave!"

What evil liberal said this?
I've only heard thga6t from rabid MAGAites.

6. If you want to study at an American university, keep your mouth shut if you disagree with politically correct mantras. Get your degree and don't look back.

You have never been on a college campus if you believe that.

Do what your told or else? Heil Hitler

The only good fascist is a dead fascist. Fly your freak flag if you want but don't hurt others.

 

[Lisa]

more like Heil Hillary LOL

sHillary isn't a progressive. She is barely a liberal. 40+ years ago she would have been a Republican.

 

[Lisa]

You're right, and they can forego the funding if they choose as the federal government is under no obligation to provide those funds.

What are they doing that threatens their public funding?

 

[Hypothetical]

sHillary isn't a progressive. She is barely a liberal. 40+ years ago she would have been a Republican.

she's a dem. close enough nowadays

 

[Hari Seldon]

On of the best executive orders ever issued was the one by President Trump about first Amendments rights on college campuses. Colleges will lose Fed funds if they dont comply. At last conservative college students have a right to a voice on campus!!!!

Ah gone are the good old days when Executive Orders were condemned by the cons. Something about too much power or over riding law or something like that. LOL!

 

[ludin]

Free speech doesn't mean you get a free platform for that free speech. For instance, colleges do not have to sponsor hate speech in an auditorium.

sorry you nor the college's get to subjectively define what hate speech is and in fact the courts have already defined hate speech.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...hate-speech-exception-to-the-first-amendment/
you leftist once again have no idea what you are talking about.

[The idea that the government may restrict] speech expressing ideas that offend … strikes at the heart of the First Amendment. Speech that demeans on the basis of race, ethnicity, gender, religion, age, disability, or any other similar ground is hateful; but the proudest boast of our free speech jurisprudence is that we protect the freedom to express “the thought that we hate.”

And the justices made clear that speech that some view as racially offensive is protected not just against outright prohibition but also against lesser restrictions.

as long as the person that is talking is not promoting things that would violate the first amendment which are very few college actually have to let people speak.
someone saying something you don't like isn't hate speech.

but that is what leftist indoctrination does to a person. anytime someone says something they don't like it is hate speech.

 

[Condor060]

I wasn't aware that there was a war?

What did they win?

I hope the next POTUS isn't Biden. I want a progressive and not a centrist conservative.

What is the downside of progress? You still have the very same rights that you have always had.

What evil liberal said this?
I've only heard thga6t from rabid MAGAites.

You have never been on a college campus if you believe that.

The only good fascist is a dead fascist. Fly your freak flag if you want but don't hurt others.

You should take it up with TheParser

1. The war is over.

2. The liberals have won.

3. This executive order will be immediately overturned by President Biden on his first day in office.

4. This changing country is going full-blown "progressive," like it or not.

5. As some activists have said, "If you don't like it, leave!"

6. If you want to study at an American university, keep your mouth shut if you disagree with politically correct mantras. Get your degree and don't look back.

 

[ludin]

Who the **** cares?

Conservatives are so full of **** anymore, no one can or should take them seriously.

as usually the constitution says you are 100% wrong but don't let facts get in your way you never do.

 

[aociswundumho]

This changing country is going full-blown "progressive," like it or not.

What is the downside of progress?

Progressivism creates progress like the Affordable Care Act made healthcare affordable.

 

[ludin]

Okay, what about lib students at a Christian University that want a pro abortion person to come and talk on campus? Remember, that such schools take federal funds.

learn the difference between private and public college. it will help you out a great deal.

 

[ludin]

Telling the truth isn't hate speech. Trump cannot alter the First Amendment with an EO. You should spend more time in a poli-sci classroom than on Stormfront.

where is someone altering the 1st amendment please produce evidence of this.

 

[ludin]

Public college campuses are under no obligation to become MAGAite rallies just because they take public funding.

Public colleges are under the obligation to abide by the constitution because they take public funding.
we know we know the constitution gets in the leftist way but sorry this country was founded on freedom
and in order to combat leftist we need those freedoms in place.

sorry you don't like freedom of speech, due process, and the ability to protect ones self from criminals, but
that is why we are a free country.

 

[Lisa]

Progressivism creates progress like the Affordable Care Act made healthcare affordable.

The ACA was based on the insurance mandate which was a conservative idea. Medicare for all is the progressive solution to healthcare coverage.

 

[Lisa]

Public colleges are under the obligation to abide by the constitution because they take public funding.
we know we know the constitution gets in the leftist way but sorry this country was founded on freedom
and in order to combat leftist we need those freedoms in place.

sorry you don't like freedom of speech, due process, and the ability to protect ones self from criminals, but
that is why we are a free country.

Drop the hyperbolic nonsense.

What are you trying to get at? Public universities are not obligated to invite speakers who cause problems and create threatening environments. They are supposed to welcome all points of views but inviting the Klan or Neo-nazis to speak is not required, just because they are 6 nazis supporters in the student body.

 

[Lisa]

she's a dem. close enough nowadays

The Democratic party has also moved to the right with the GOP as they moved from Eisenhower's pragmatism to Bush's neo-conservative ideas and now Trump's neo-nazi ideas.

 

[ludin]

Drop the hyperbolic nonsense.

What are you trying to get at? Public universities are not obligated to invite speakers who cause problems and create threatening environments. They are supposed to welcome all points of views but inviting the Klan or Neo-nazis to speak is not required, just because they are 6 nazis supporters in the student body.

you are 100% wrong.
to my knowledge most of those people don't speak at colleges, but if you need a SCOTUS ruling on the matter.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...hate-speech-exception-to-the-first-amendment/

the college doesn't get to determine what is a threatening environment. someone saying something you don't like is not threatening.
words are not violence.

sorry it is not hyperbolic nonsense.

leftist hate the fact I am able to say things they don't like. which is why every time someone does say something they don't like a witch hunt is formed and
those peoples lives are destroyed or attempted. They hate the fact that i want evidence and fact instead of baseless accusations and witch trials.

but those things are needed to keep a free society. leftist have proven themselves incompatible with a free open society.

 

[Lisa]

you are 100% wrong.
to my knowledge most of those people don't speak at colleges, but if you need a SCOTUS ruling on the matter.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...hate-speech-exception-to-the-first-amendment/

the college doesn't get to determine what is a threatening environment. someone saying something you don't like is not threatening.
words are not violence.

sorry it is not hyperbolic nonsense.

leftist hate the fact I am able to say things they don't like. which is why every time someone does say something they don't like a witch hunt is formed and
those peoples lives are destroyed or attempted. They hate the fact that i want evidence and fact instead of baseless accusations and witch trials.

but those things are needed to keep a free society. leftist have proven themselves incompatible with a free open society.

This EO has not yet survived judicial review.

I never said that just because someone doesn't like them creates a threatening environment. I said that speakers who espouse violence and hate are not required to be invited to speak on a college campus, either public or private. It requires more than the desire of a few students for anyone to be invited to speak. Colleges are places of education and are not be used for publically funded Klan or Neo-Nazi rallies.