Omnipotence Paradox Debunked (1 Viewer)

[TypicalRussian]

The paradox in question:

“Can an Omnipotent Being create a stone so heavy that it cannot lift it?”

But that is easily solvable

First, there are only two options here, he can make a stone heavy or not- he can not do both BECAUSE IT IS LOGICALLY IMPOSSIBLE, BEING OMNIPOTENT IS BEING ALL-POWERFUL IN REGARDS TO BEING POSSIBLE AND LOGICALLY COHERENT

also

“Omnipotence Paradox” (Debunked) | Random Thoughts. Christian Walk.

1) It’s akin to asking, “can 2 + 2 not equal 4?” Of course God, being All-Powerful, could have made it not 4, but He chose it to be that way. Does it make Him less powerful for choosing one way rather than another? No. He might have been “able” to do something other than what He did, but He did do what was done. No matter which way it was done, we would be asking why it was done that particular way.

2) When Christians talk about God being "All Powerful," they really mean "Eternal in Power." So the question really is, "what does Eternal mean?" Though there are many aspects to it, the aspect most pertinent to the paradox is the aspect of continuity. In light of that definition, there is no problem.For example: For the rock analogy, it’s a vie against logic. Is God less powerful because He does not defy logic? No. Logic is the standard of perfection. Anything which is contrary to that standard is less powerful; which means the question is asked under false pretense. It’s like saying, “Can God be less powerful to be more powerful?” The question itself is illogical.

so yes, an Omnipotent being is easily possible to exist, and if it can exist-then it HAS TO EXIST, explained by the ontological argument

 

[Rumpel]

The paradox in question:

“Can an Omnipotent Being create a stone so heavy that it cannot lift it?”

Is it really solved?

 

[RAMOSS]

Is it really solved?

No, it is not. It is dismissed, but not solved.

 

[ashurbanipal]

The paradox in question:

“Can an Omnipotent Being create a stone so heavy that it cannot lift it?”

But that is easily solvable

First, there are only two options here, he can make a stone heavy or not- he can not do both BECAUSE IT IS LOGICALLY IMPOSSIBLE, BEING OMNIPOTENT IS BEING ALL-POWERFUL IN REGARDS TO BEING POSSIBLE AND LOGICALLY COHERENT

also

“Omnipotence Paradox” (Debunked) | Random Thoughts. Christian Walk.



so yes, an Omnipotent being is easily possible to exist, and if it can exist-then it HAS TO EXIST, explained by the ontological argument

But then, logic is more powerful than God, which sure seems like an odd result.

 

[blarg]

The paradox in question:

“Can an Omnipotent Being create a stone so heavy that it cannot lift it?”

But that is easily solvable

First, there are only two options here, he can make a stone heavy or not- he can not do both BECAUSE IT IS LOGICALLY IMPOSSIBLE, BEING OMNIPOTENT IS BEING ALL-POWERFUL IN REGARDS TO BEING POSSIBLE AND LOGICALLY COHERENT

also

“Omnipotence Paradox” (Debunked) | Random Thoughts. Christian Walk.



so yes, an Omnipotent being is easily possible to exist, and if it can exist-then it HAS TO EXIST, explained by the ontological argument

not knowing something is impossible dosent mean it exists i could have billion dollars i dont

 

[calamity]

The paradox in question:

“Can an Omnipotent Being create a stone so heavy that it cannot lift it?”

But that is easily solvable

First, there are only two options here, he can make a stone heavy or not- he can not do both BECAUSE IT IS LOGICALLY IMPOSSIBLE, BEING OMNIPOTENT IS BEING ALL-POWERFUL IN REGARDS TO BEING POSSIBLE AND LOGICALLY COHERENT

also

“Omnipotence Paradox” (Debunked) | Random Thoughts. Christian Walk.



so yes, an Omnipotent being is easily possible to exist, and if it can exist-then it HAS TO EXIST, explained by the ontological argument

huh...

 

[roguenuke]

2+2 can eventually equal 5 or more, should they be a couple of couples or at least of mixed sexes with the ability to procreate.

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[phattonez]

No, it is not. It is dismissed, but not solved.

Because it's a stupid question. A stone so heavy that an omnipotent being can't lift it is an impossibility. No such thing exists or could exist. A logical contradiction isn't a thing.

 

[phattonez]

But then, logic is more powerful than God, which sure seems like an odd result.

Logic isn't powerful.

 

[ashurbanipal]

Logic isn't powerful.

I'm not so sure I agree, but I think that the real solution to the omnipotence paradox goes as follows: God is not constrained by logic. Therefore, God can create a stone so heavy he cannot lift it, and he can lift it.

 

[OrphanSlug]

so yes, an Omnipotent being is easily possible to exist, and if it can exist-then it HAS TO EXIST, explained by the ontological argument

Great, again you have just argued that every god humanity has ever invented and yet to have invented as well all exist.

 

[RAMOSS]

Because it's a stupid question. A stone so heavy that an omnipotent being can't lift it is an impossibility. No such thing exists or could exist. A logical contradiction isn't a thing.

So, when you got a claim 'Nothing is impossible', then showing something that is logically impossible is demonstrating the inaccuracy of the other premise.

 

[Daisy]

So, when you got a claim 'Nothing is impossible', then showing something that is logically impossible is demonstrating the inaccuracy of the other premise.

Sounds like a prime example of "straining at a gnat, and swallowing a camel"...

 

[RAMOSS]

Sounds like a prime example of "straining at a gnat, and swallowing a camel"...

Or, it can show on just how silly the entire 'can do everything' claim is.

 

[vegas giants]

If an all powerful God does not exist it means he has weaknesses. And weaknesses can be exploited.


To quote the hulk.....puny god

 

[Daisy]

If an all powerful God does not exist it means he has weaknesses. And weaknesses can be exploited.


To quote the hulk.....puny god

Is it a weakness to be incapable of lying? I don't think so...

 

[vegas giants]

Is it a weakness to be incapable of lying? I don't think so...

He can not be all powerful because he can not lift the rock. He has limitations. They can be exploited

 

[Daisy]

He can not be all powerful because he can not lift the rock. He has limitations. They can be exploited

Wrong...He cannot make a rock that He cannot lift...that is being all powerful...

 

[vegas giants]

Wrong...He cannot make a rock that He cannot lift...that is being all powerful...

He can not....and thus he does not have the power to do something and thus is not all powerful

 

[spud_meister]

No, he couldn't. Given the density of rock, any sufficiently large rock would form a black hole before it got to the point where God couldn't lift it, and then it would no longer be a rock. The solution isn't the nature of God, but the nature of rocks.

 

[TypicalRussian]

Great, again you have just argued that every god humanity has ever invented and yet to have invented as well all exist.

Wrong, I am arguing for classical theism and it is easy to bridge gaps

 

[TypicalRussian]

huh...

What do you not understand about it?

 

[TypicalRussian]

not knowing something is impossible dosent mean it exists i could have billion dollars i dont

Does that same logic portray to the existence of God

 

[TypicalRussian]

But then, logic is more powerful than God, which sure seems like an odd result.

Elaborate?

God is logical

 

[ashurbanipal]

Elaborate?

I'm not sure what you mean. That looks like an imperative but has the symbol that typically ends an interrogatory.

God is logical

Again, I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean that God cogitates according to the rules of logic?