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[Ohio]- SECRETARY OF STATE HUSTED CERTIFIES SIGNATURES FOR REFERENDUM ON SENATE BILL

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Less than a quarter million signatures were needed to put repeal of the Ohio union busting law on that ballot. Almost a full million signatures were collected, and polls show a crushing victory for those who want repeal of this law. Chalk up a victory for the people of Ohio over corporate special interests.

Article is here.
 
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uh public sector unions are a special interest that is contrary to the interests of the TAXPAYERS of Ohio
 
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This is interesting and I wonder what it means for the governor.
 
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50% of voters disapprove... that sucks for him
 
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Looks like the governor's approval ratings have taken a nose dive.

Gov. Kasich's approval rating on downhill slide : Politics : News : ToledoontheMove.com

That's the most recent article I can find... 20th of this month


Kasich was smart to do the stuff that is going to piss of people who didn't support him in 2010 early in his administration

how he does in 2014 is going to turn on issues other than that. for example he also held up the casino deal trying to get more money for ohio

that hurt him as people saw empty construction sites and heard city politicians whining about their cash cow being slowed up

in 2014 if OHio is raking in big bucks (and Ohio will get more due to Kasich forcing a better deal) he's going be able to take credit for that
 
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uh public sector unions are a special interest that is contrary to the interests of the TAXPAYERS of Ohio
I presume the million signatures were done by taxpayers. Democracy!!!
 
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I presume the million signatures were done by taxpayers. Democracy!!!

And even if the people are wrong in overturning his legislation, this government is for the people and by the people. Game on.
 
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I presume the million signatures were done by taxpayers. Democracy!!!


depends on how you define tax payers

actually its voters

and I think it will pass

the unions are having a hard on over this

most people don't care enough one way or another unless they are unionistas who think that limiting the ability of public sector unions to rape the taxpayers hurts all unionistas (sadly the unions that are most legitimate are waning and the ones that are most worthless are growing)
 
Re: [Ohio]- SECRETARY OF STATE HUSTED CERTIFIES SIGNATURES FOR REFERENDUM ON SENATE B

And even if the people are wrong in overturning his legislation, this government is for the people and by the people. Game on.

referendums cut both ways

gays have been on the short end of that stick a bunch of times
 
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referendums cut both ways

gays have been on the short end of that stick a bunch of times
Indeed they have, but the rights of a group should never be put to a vote of the people.
 
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Indeed they have, but the rights of a group should never be put to a vote of the people.

if you love referendums when they allow "the people" to overturn a legislative decision on union abuses then you have to also support the people throwing out a legislature legalizing gay marriage
 
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Actually, part of me HOPES they pull this off, and in three years, when the state is back in the toilet financially.. no, they'll never learn. Some folks just don't get that PS Unions are seriously bad news.
 
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Rather than corporate special interests, they now support union special interests.

So, how many jobs do unions create? Unions don't pay taxes, either; unlike corporations. Not much business savvy in Ohio, it seems.
 
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depends on how you define tax payers

People who pay taxes.
 
Re: [Ohio]- SECRETARY OF STATE HUSTED CERTIFIES SIGNATURES FOR REFERENDUM ON SENATE B

People who pay taxes.

those who pay taxes with money given to them by the government don't rate as such with me
 
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those who pay taxes with money given to them by the government don't rate as such with me


The State of Ohio employs almost a million people?
 
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The State of Ohio employs almost a million people?

non-sequitur Unionistas in the private sector think an attack on parasitic public sector unions is an attack on them

just like legal hispanic immigrants are up in arms over attempts to crack down on illegal latino immigration
 
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non-sequitur Unionistas in the private sector think an attack on parasitic public sector unions is an attack on them

just like legal hispanic immigrants are up in arms over attempts to crack down on illegal latino immigration


And this has what to do with what I responded to?


Originally Posted by TurtleDude

those who pay taxes with money given to them by the government don't rate as such with me

a) nada

b) nothing

c) zilch

d) all the above
 
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The State of Ohio employs almost a million people?
Interesting the state voting itself free gifts from the treasury at the expense of the taxpayer, nothing like burning the candles from both ends.
 
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The State of Ohio employs almost a million people?

None of those people pay taxes, either.
 
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those who pay taxes with money given to them by the government don't rate as such with me

That is irrelevant and inconsequential. You wanted to know what a taxpayer was by definition --- you were informed that it is a person who pays taxes. End of argument.
 
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None of those people pay taxes, either.


Yeah I doubt not a one of them ever bought a six pack of beer or anything else that has a tax on it for that matter.
 
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from Winston


The State of Ohio employs almost a million people?

the reply
None of those people pay taxes, either.

State of Ohio employees working for a wage do NOT PAY TAXES?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Where do you get stuff like this?????
 
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That is irrelevant and inconsequential. You wanted to know what a taxpayer was by definition --- you were informed that it is a person who pays taxes. End of argument.

that is as silly as saying a bank robber is truly a taxpayer if he takes money he didn't own and uses it to pay taxes. what he is doing is paying taxes with other peoples' money, they are the taxpayers not him
 
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