Officials: General Fired Over Alcohol, Sex Charges..... (1 Viewer)

[MMC]

WASHINGTON -- An Army major general with U.S. Africa Command has been relieved of his post in connection with alcohol and sexual misconduct charges, defense officials said Thursday.

Officials said Maj. Gen. Ralph Baker, commander of the Combined Joint Task Force-Horn of Africa, was fired from his command last Thursday and he was fined a portion of his pay by Gen. Carter Ham, head of U.S. Africa Command, after an administrative hearing and review. The officials said Ham lost confidence in Baker's ability to command.

He has returned to Washington and is temporarily serving as a special assistant to the director of the Army staff while he awaits Hagel's decision. Such special assistant posts are routinely used as way stations for general officers who are under investigation and awaiting their fate, or for others who have been promoted and are waiting for their new job to open up.

Ham is retiring and is scheduled to turn over his command to Army Gen. David Rodriguez in a ceremony Friday.

Ham's predecessor, Army Gen. William "Kip" Ward, was demoted in rank from four stars to three, and retired as a lieutenant general after investigators determined that he had misused government funds for lavish spending while heading U.S. Africa Command.

Baker is also one in a string of general officers who have been reprimanded or investigated for possible sexual misconduct.

The issue has raised the ire of Congress, where lawmakers have complained that military and defense leaders have not done enough to combat sexual assault and harassment in the ranks.

In particular, a recent decision by Air Force Lt. Gen. Craig Franklin to reverse the sexual assault conviction against Lt. Col. James Wilkerson, a former inspector general at Aviano Air Base in Italy, infuriated senators. And it triggered calls for a harder look at the military's justice system.....snip~

Officials: General Fired Over Alcohol, Sex Charges | Military.com

Clearly it states a String of Generals and for Possible misconduct. Senators pitching a bitch about PC with women in the military and which Senators would that be, that are in heading all Chairs in the Senate? Which political leaning have the majority of the Generals and other Flag Officers sway? Yet did we not have those on the left saying what Purge? Theres nothing unusual going on. Here we have People that with Battle experience are being released thru accusation and for just about any USMC of Justice that can reigned down by this Democratic Administration. Replaced with Pencil pushing bureaucrats in the Military with minor Battle experience and a whole lot of political aspirations. Thoughts?

 

[APACHERAT]

Has anyone been keeping track on how many Generals and Admirals and other commanders have been fired since Obama has become Cn'C ?

I read last year that Obama has broken the record of every President since Truman.

Scittlebutt is he's making room for Obama's Moron Officers Corps to move up in command.

 

[MMC]

Has anyone been keeping track on how many Generals and Admirals and other commanders have been fired since Obama has become Cn'C ?

I read last year that Obama has broken the record of every President since Truman.

Scittlebutt is he's making room for Obama's Moron Officers Corps to move up in command.

It is up there.....and leaving a bunch of PC pencil pushing political puzt's in their place.

 

[APACHERAT]

It is up there.....and leaving a bunch of PC pencil pushing political puzt's in their place.

What probably really happened was Gen. Baker while drinking at the Officers Club called Al Qaeda "rag heads" and one thing Obama hates more than any thing else is for someone not being politically correct.

 

[MMC]

What probably really happened was Gen. Baker while drinking at the Officers Club called Al Qaeda "rag heads" and one thing Obama hates more than any thing else is for someone not being politically correct.

That, or flirted with some female officers or said somethings that could be construed as Sexual harassment. As they didn't have a Problem with him when he wasn't speaking out on anything.

 

[APACHERAT]

That, or flirted with some female officers or said somethings that could be construed as Sexual harassment. As they didn't have a Problem with him when he wasn't speaking out on anything.

Have you visited any Officers Clubs in the past few years ?

The first thing you'll notice today compared to four or five years ago, nobody is laughing. Just about every joke is now considered to be politically incorrect, that telling a joke can be dangerous to your military career.

 

[mak2]

I think it is great to see Obama getting some military bearing back into the higher ranks.

 

[APACHERAT]

I think it is great to see Obama getting some military bearing back into the higher ranks.

Compared to when ?

What Corps did you serve in ?

 

[mak2]

I dunno, sounds to me like he is enforcing the UCMJ on Generals too for a change.

Compared to when ?

What Corps did you serve in ?

 

[APACHERAT]

Obama’s War on American Generals

>" During the Bush administration there were only two American commanders of the International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan. Under Obama there have so far been five. There has been a new ISAF commander nearly every single year that Obama has been in office. The only exception is 2012 when Obama was too busy trying to win an election to bother further sabotaging a losing war.

The parade of musical chair generals began when Obama demanded the resignation of General McKiernan. The Washington Post called the firing of a wartime commander a “rare decision.” It was the first time since the days of General Douglas MacArthur that a four-star commanding general had been purged during a war.

The decision may have been rare, but it was not unexpected. General McKiernan was fired for the same offense that General McArthur had been targeted during the Korean War: He had demanded competency from an incompetent Democrat.

McKiernan had embarrassed Obama by demanding more troops to fight the war. The situation came to a head as General McKiernan pressed an indecisive Obama to make a decision. It was a devastating scene for an administration which had covered its pivot away from Iraq with concern trolling about winning in Afghanistan. The troops would be delivered, but McKiernan would pay the price.

General McKiernan’s firing was put down to the need for fresh ideas. McKiernan was deemed too “old school” because he wanted to fight an old-fashioned war against the Taliban while Obama Inc. believed that the war couldn’t be won by beating the Taliban, but by winning the hearts and minds of Afghans. It was a fashionable and doomed strategy that required sacrificing the lives and limbs of thousands of American soldiers to political correctness.

The old-school general who had once said, “I don’t understand ever putting your men and women in harm’s way, without their having the full ability to protect themselves. That also means operating on actionable intelligence to defeat insurgents, and protect your forces. That’s how you keep your soldiers alive,” was clearly not the man for that job.

Replacing him as ISAF commander was General McChrystal. McChrystal was everything that McKiernan wasn’t. He was hip fresh blood. He voted for Obama, listened to the right music and was a big fan of counterinsurgency. He hooked up with Greg Mortenson and handed out copies of Three Cups of Tea to his staff. The book proved to be a fraud and so did the COIN strategy for winning over the Afghans.

American soldiers were prevented from defending themselves to avoid offending the Afghans and the war was not moving forward. McChrystal claimed that he had presented a plan to Washington for defeating the Taliban, but Washington only wanted their capabilities degraded. The relationship between McChrystal and Obama also degraded, and McChrystal was fired over a negative Rolling Stone article that revealed that the ISAF commander held Obama and his cronies in contempt.

Urgently, Obama swapped out General McChrystal for General Petraeus, a former enemy now turned wartime ally. In only two years, Obama had gone through three generals and fired two wartime four-star generals, setting a new record for mismanaging a war.

Petraeus’s move from Central Command to commanding the ISAF was unprecedented and did not last long. With the Taliban undefeated and the conflict shifting from a military war to a campaign of drone strikes and targeted assassinations, General Petraeus shifted over to the CIA to command the new fallback position of the war effort as Director Petraeus. But a year later, Petraeus met the same fate as McKiernan and McChrystal after alienating the CIA top brass which enmeshed him in a scandal. It did not help matters any that Republicans were salivating over the idea of a Petraeus candidacy in 2016.

Petraeus had been replaced by General Allen, who became enmeshed in the same scandal, and the confirmation hearings of his replacement, General Dunford, were sped up. This month, Dunford has taken command of an ISAF in retreat as Afghanistan has become the new Iraq. And Dunford has become the fifth ISAF commander under Obama. Of his four predecessors, all have ended their careers under a cloud.

The War in Afghanistan has been lost and so have the careers of most of its commanders. Obama has constantly swapped out generals, and unlike the rotating allied ISAF commanders during the Bush era, many of them were fired because they threatened Obama politically in some way.

The record is an ugly one, but it is not limited to the war theater in Afghanistan. After the Benghazi disaster, General Carter Ham of AFRICOM was reportedly edged out after telling a Republican Congressman that he had not received any requests for support. His replacement, General Rodriguez, had earlier taken over part of McKiernan’s job after Obama had forced him out.

More recently General Mattis, the commander of United States Central Command, Petraeus’s old job, was booted out without even a personal phone call for being too hawkish about Iran. The insult was unprecedented and the reason was the same. Like McKiernan and McChrystal, Mattis had offended important people in the Obama administration. And for that he paid the price.

General Dempsey, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, exemplifies the costs of career survival in the age of Obama. Dempsey echoes everything that the civilians tell him. He never disagrees with them in public and likely not in private. Whatever new gimmick comes out of the White House, whether it’s Green Energy or homosexuality, he’s right there behind it and out in front of it.

Dempsey has no ideas of his own and he doesn’t need any. He has nothing to bring to the table except a willingness to act as Obama’s pet parrot in a uniform. When McChrystal first met Obama, he recalled thinking that Obama was “uncomfortable and intimidated” by the room full of military brass. That observation helped get McChrystal fired and these days it’s the military brass that feels uncomfortable and intimidated by Obama Inc. "< Obama

 

[mak2]

Drinking and sexual misconduct can get a corporal busted, why not a General? I posit it could be under Bush the upper Command were not held to the current high standards. Are you trying to imply Obama framed him?

 

[APACHERAT]

I dunno, sounds to me like he is enforcing the UCMJ on Generals too for a change.

Just not Generals, he's also the first President/Cn'C to ever order the court martial of an enlisted man who hurt his feelings.

Obama after four years still hasn't earned the respect of those who serve under him.

 

[mak2]

All right, enlighten me. Which enlisted guy got courts-martialed for hurting his feelings?

Just not Generals, he's also the first President/Cn'C to ever order the court martial of an enlisted man who hurt his feelings.

Obama after four years still hasn't earned the respect of those who serve under him.

 

[APACHERAT]

 

[MMC]

Drinking and sexual misconduct can get a corporal busted, why not a General? I posit it could be under Bush the upper Command were not held to the current high standards. Are you trying to imply Obama framed him?

Why, were you attempting to say Bush got Rid of All the Generals Clinton had take Command? Which would be some of the same Generals that Clinton didn't have a problem with.

 

[iliveonramen]

View attachment 67145621

Why are conservatives such ******s? I served during the Bush administration and would never make a big huff and talk **** about the Commander and Chief?

 

[mak2]

If that is true it deeply saddens me the Marine Corps has lost its discipline. Which enlisted guy was courtsmaritaled for hurting Obama's feelings?

 

[mak2]

No, if you did you should be court martialed. The converatives used to understand this before the Obamahate took over their brains.

Why are conservatives such ******s? I served during the Bush administration and would never make a big huff and talk **** about the Commander and Chief?

 

[MMC]

If that is true it deeply saddens me the Marine Corps has lost its discipline. Which enlisted guy was courtsmaritaled for hurting Obama's feelings?

He wasn't Court-marshaled he was discharged with a dishonorable.

Marine sergeant discharged for criticizing Obama: Was that fair?

Troops may express political opinions and are encouraged 'to carry out the obligations of citizenship,' but Marine Sgt. Gary Stein was warned that his Facebook posts crossed a line.

Is this a fair punishment for a Marine who has served in the military for nine years – a tenure which also included a tour in Iraq during the particularly violent years of 2005 to 2006? Some service members who have been found to have deserted have received “general” discharges, after all.

http://www.csmonitor.com/var/ezflow...ant-discharged-criticizing-obama_full_380.jpg

 

[APACHERAT]

Why are conservatives such ******s? I served during the Bush administration and would never make a big huff and talk **** about the Commander and Chief?

That's because your Cn'C was Bush not Obama.

 

[mak2]

You cant get a dishonorable without a courts-martial. By the way that is as far as I read.

He wasn't Court-marshaled he was discharged with a dishonorable.

Marine sergeant discharged for criticizing Obama: Was that fair?

Troops may express political opinions and are encouraged 'to carry out the obligations of citizenship,' but Marine Sgt. Gary Stein was warned that his Facebook posts crossed a line.

Is this a fair punishment for a Marine who has served in the military for nine years – a tenure which also included a tour in Iraq during the particularly violent years of 2005 to 2006? Some service members who have been found to have deserted have received “general” discharges, after all.

http://www.csmonitor.com/var/ezflow...ant-discharged-criticizing-obama_full_380.jpg

 

[Wiseone]

He wasn't Court-marshaled he was discharged with a dishonorable.

Marine sergeant discharged for criticizing Obama: Was that fair?

Troops may express political opinions and are encouraged 'to carry out the obligations of citizenship,' but Marine Sgt. Gary Stein was warned that his Facebook posts crossed a line.

Is this a fair punishment for a Marine who has served in the military for nine years – a tenure which also included a tour in Iraq during the particularly violent years of 2005 to 2006? Some service members who have been found to have deserted have received “general” discharges, after all.

http://www.csmonitor.com/var/ezflow...ant-discharged-criticizing-obama_full_380.jpg

He was given an "Other than Honorable" discharge, which is not the same as a dishonorable. And the decision to do so wasn't made by Obama

Marine Sgt. Gary Stein Gets 'Other Than Honorable' Discharge Over Anti-Obama Facebook Comment - ABC News

That's just the facts.

 

[mak2]

If you are a Marine and you are publically disrespectful to anyone in your chain of command you can and should be courts martialed. It is called military bearing and I dont beleive my Marine Corps has changed that much.

 

[iliveonramen]

That's because your Cn'C was Bush not Obama.

No it's because I respected both the institution (military) and office. My personal views were secondary to my respect for both.

The military should never been seen as political and neither should the soldiers and top brass. It has one mission...to carry out it's orders by it's elected officials...not to complain about it's elected leaders. That just shows bad discipline and a lack of respect.

 

[APACHERAT]

He wasn't Court-marshaled he was discharged with a dishonorable.

Marine sergeant discharged for criticizing Obama: Was that fair?

Troops may express political opinions and are encouraged 'to carry out the obligations of citizenship,' but Marine Sgt. Gary Stein was warned that his Facebook posts crossed a line.

Is this a fair punishment for a Marine who has served in the military for nine years – a tenure which also included a tour in Iraq during the particularly violent years of 2005 to 2006? Some service members who have been found to have deserted have received “general” discharges, after all.

http://www.csmonitor.com/var/ezflow...ant-discharged-criticizing-obama_full_380.jpg

I don't think Sgt. Stein recieved a dishonorable discharge, I read it was a less than honorable discharge and he was given an reelistment code where he could reenlist after there is a competant Cn'C in the White House.