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Officer Byrd violated her civil rights

Fledermaus said:
Babbitt was breaching the final barricade between Congress people and violent insurrectionists.

Justified.

Floyd wasn't.
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and both died because of unnecessary use of lethal force.

shame you can't see the similarities
 
WilHaftaWaite said:
and both died because of unnecessary use of lethal force.

shame you can't see the similarities
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Babbitt was breaching the final barricade between Congress people and violent insurrectionists.

Floyd wasn't.

It is a shame you can't see the differences.
 
Buster Keaton said:
he could have warned her
he could have pushed her back
he could have tasered her
but shooting her was excessive force
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He did warn her.
He couldn't push her back.
There's no evidence he had a taser.
Shooting her was not excessive given the circumstances.
 
Buster Keaton said:
so the police shooting unarmed protesters is ok
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When they're part of an angry mob, violently breaking into a restricted area while threatening police, and ignoring lawful police orders to get back, yeah.
 
I may have posted something like this before, so forgive if it repeats. Tho it’s often bad to “go Hitler,” Jan 6 reminded me of his “Beer Hall Putsch” that resulted in the deaths of some who marched with him that day in Munich, some of whom died unnecessarily. Adolf honored those fallen in subsequent years, tho I don’t know if Donald has done so for Babbitt. But hers was probably a similar case, a tragic result of believing and acting on the fantasies of a demagogue.
 
WilHaftaWaite said:
not lying

nope
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Yup.
WilHaftaWaite said:
and you are shitting on every cop that had to face a grand jury in Portland, Ferguson, St Louis during the protests in those and other cities.
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Protests and terrorist/seditionists are two different things.

Nobody in Portland, Ferguson, or St. Louis built a gallows with a sign threating to hang somebody.
 
WilHaftaWaite said:
nope, Floyd and Babbit both died as a result of lethal force. UNNECESARY lethal force.
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Chauvin's lethal force wasn't just unnecessary. It was in violation of his department's policies as he improperly administered MRT, causing Floyd's death. Plus Floyd was not in the commission of committing a crime when he was killed, whereas Babbitt was.
 
Jagged said:
There was no "murdering device" built outside of the Capitol. That gallows was a prop. There was no trap door and it had a sign on it, indicating it was set. It was a symbol, not a functional gallows.
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It was still a terrorist threat being carried out by MAGA terrorists on the orders of Trump.
 
Jagged said:
You haven't offered any evidence Byrd's force was excessive. Comparing to a case of provable unnecessary force doesn't actually help your case.
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the fact he tried to use nothing but the gun is all the proof needed.
 
WilHaftaWaite said:
unnecessary use of lethal force.
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opinion noted.

in the one case, Floyd's the police officers were tried and found guilty
in the other case. the officer was cleared of the shooting

One could say my opinion is supported by court cases.

Care to share where Bryd was found guilty of using unnecessary force?

imo, I am surprised that more protesters were not shot on Jan6. Especially the ones trying to break into the chambers.
 
mike2810 said:
opinion noted.

in the one case, Floyd's the police officers were tried and found guilty
in the other case. the officer was cleared of the shooting

One could say my opinion is supported by court cases.

Care to share where Bryd was found guilty of using unnecessary force?

imo, I am surprised that more protesters were not shot on Jan6. Especially the ones trying to break into the chambers.
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mike2810 said:
in the one case, Floyd's the police officers were tried and found guilty
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by a grand jury
mike2810 said:
in the other case. the officer was cleared of the shooting
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by which court?
mike2810 said:
One could say my opinion is supported by court cases.
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when was Byrd tried in court?
mike2810 said:
Care to share where Bryd was found guilty of using unnecessary force?
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care to show him being tried in court, or by a grand jury?
 
mike2810 said:
opinion noted.

in the one case, Floyd's the police officers were tried and found guilty
in the other case. the officer was cleared of the shooting

One could say my opinion is supported by court cases.

Care to share where Bryd was found guilty of using unnecessary force?

imo, I am surprised that more protesters were not shot on Jan6. Especially the ones trying to break into the chambers.
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There has never been a trial.
Pelosi's capital police investigated themselves and found that they did nothing wrong, which is illegitimate.
There should be an independent federal investigation.
 
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