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I shouldn't have to explain this to you.
And others show him to be white. And?Can you prove that? Because depictions of him in painting show him as being brown.
I'm sure it's of the utmost importance for you that Barney remains purple and since I don't care, we'll just leave it at that.
Because Baby Bop is green and BJ is yellow. The kids on the show are white and black, and the sky is blue. That only leaves purple...OBVIOUSLY.Why exactly can Barney only be purple?
And read my prior post regarding the mid-19th century depictions.And others show him to be white. And?
No depiction was painted around his lifetime or in the lifetime of anyone that knew him.
All the ancient paintings show Caucasian features.
Like I said, Greek. Which is not African or even dark.
My emphasis. But in real life he wasn't a white man.And again, this is about Santa, or as originally known, Sinterklaas.
Sinterklaas is based on Saint Nicholas's acts of giving and was created as a white man.
And read my prior post regarding the mid-19th century depictions.
Late 15th century depiction:
And read my prior post regarding the mid-19th century depictions.
Late 15th century depiction:
Amazingly darker skinned than your version. Does the dark skin offend you?
Not quite...
My emphasis. But in real life he wasn't a white man.
Still offended?
His father and mother were Greek. Since when are Greeks considered non-white?
Oh dear, my biggest disappointment was that the CBS and Star Tribune didn't switch off because the website couldn't cope with the numbers of people defending Mr Gamble or the choice of him being the first Black Santa for Mall of America.
I did read it. Those depictions are irrelevant. Did you really not understand that?And read my prior post regarding the mid-19th century depictions.
Late 15th century depiction:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0d/Icon_c_1500_St_Nicholas.JPG/677px-Icon_c_1500_St_Nicholas.JPG[img][/QUOTE]
Doh.
Irrelevant to the information I provided.
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[QUOTE="Ockham, post: 1066650430, member: 8754"]Amazingly darker skinned than your version.[/QUOTE]Irrelevant.
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And what I provided was done by Science.
[QUOTE="Ockham, post: 1066650430, member: 8754"]Not quite... [img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Saint_Nicholas.jpg[img][/QUOTE]
Not quite? iLOL
Aged and dirty paint with Caucasian features.
Still irrelevant to the information I provided.
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[QUOTE="Ockham, post: 1066650430, member: 8754"]My emphasis. But in real life he wasn't a white man.[/QUOTE]
You seem to be confused.
I could have posted and earlier painting than you showing him to be white. But the point I made instead is that those images are irrelevant as none of them were painted around his lifetime (270 to 343 AD) or by those who knew what he looked like.
Did you really not understand that?
Then you did not and could not refute what I posted about the most recent forensic reconstruction. Contrary to your displayed ignorance, given the forensic reconstruction, "in real life" he was a white man.
That Saint Nicholas has been represented as a darker color Caucasoid in painting is irrelevant to science of forensics and to how Sinterklass was created.
They are irrelevant because you want St. Nicholas to be white. You never answered; are you offended?I did read it. Those depictions are irrelevant. Did you really not understand that?
Irrelevant.
And what I provided was done by Science.
... because you want St. Nicholas to be white.Not quite? iLOL
So do it.You seem to be confused.
I could have posted and earlier painting than you showing him to be white.
Historical artists already refuted it. Science didn't know St. Nicholas either.Then you did not and could not refute what I posted about the most recent forensic reconstruction. Contrary to your displayed ignorance, given the forensic reconstruction, "in real life" he was a white man.
... because you want St. Nicholas to be white.That Saint Nicholas has been represented as a darker color Caucasoid in painting is irrelevant to science of forensics and to how Sinterklass was created.
Wrong.They are irrelevant because you want St. Nicholas to be white.
iLOLYou never answered; are you offended?
A ridiculous reply.Did science know him?
Wrong as usual.... because you want St. Nicholas to be white.
No. You are the only one who showed they were confused.So do it.
:lamo... because you want St. Nicholas to be white.
Which is irrelevant.Sorry, St. Nicholas as depicted from the 15th century was brown.
They are irrelevant because you want St. Nicholas to be white. You never answered; are you offended?
Did science know him? :lamo
... because you want St. Nicholas to be white.
So do it.
Historical artists already refuted it. Science didn't know St. Nicholas either.
... because you want St. Nicholas to be white.
Sorry, St. Nicholas as depicted from the 15th century was brown.
Science wasn't around then either, so you just undermined your own science argument. Well done.Wrong.
They are irrelevant because, "no depiction was painted around his lifetime or in the lifetime of anyone that knew him".
Clearly you are playing some sort of game and can't win.
It's ****ing myth! Oh well, you already elected an orange president, why don't we resolve the issue and make him ream colored and put him in a rainbow colored suit.
Gay Santa and his lesbian and transgendered elves.
Some people can even eff up a Santa thread. :lol:
Your reply is dumb.Science wasn't around then either, so you just undermined your own science argument. Well done.
What is your major issue with St. Nicholas being dark skinned? You won't seem to answer.
So why you doing it?Some people can even eff up a Santa thread. :lol:
Your reply is dumb.
Just dumb.
Clearly you do not understand the roll of forensic science in this.
iLOLClearly you stepped in your own trap there. Sorry but it was too easy. Still won't answer eh? I guess you have an issue then with non-whites donning the jolly red/white suit. That's a shame.
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