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It would help if you'd tell us when the debate is, and what channel I can watch the cluster**** on.
And please everyone. Don't forget to bring a towel.
I saw it was gonna be on CNN at 7:30. Not sure what timezone they're referring to but I believe that's Eastern.
Wolf Blitzer is moderating.
better to get screwed on a date than by a politician!!
So date went well, as much as the debate did not :2razz:
So then in the end you won.
I've never found pop quizzes very helpful in determining someone's intelligence or readiness for a post.I would like to ask O'Donnell and Palin these questions:
1) How many justices sit on the supreme court?
2) Who was the third President?
3) Civil War, what years?
just for ****s and giggles...
I'd like to ask Obama one question. Where in the Constitution does the United States guarantee a socialist form of government?I would like to ask O'Donnell and Palin these questions:
1) How many justices sit on the supreme court?
2) Who was the third President?
3) Civil War, what years?
just for ****s and giggles...
Where does it rule it out?I'd like to ask Obama one question. Where in the Constitution does the United States guarantee a socialist form of government?
If you don't have an answer, just say so.Where does it rule it out?
If you don't have an answer, just say so.
I've never found pop quizzes very helpful in determining someone's intelligence or readiness for a post.
I just wanna know how in the hell you see Socialist Government :shrug:
Not much has actually changed since the last administration...
Socialism and capitalism are not forms of government, they are economic systems and neither is specified in the Constitution.I'd like to ask Obama one question. Where in the Constitution does the United States guarantee a socialist form of government?
I'd like to ask Obama one question. Where in the Constitution does the United States guarantee a socialist form of government?
Where does it rule it out?
Patria makes a very good point. As has been successfully demonstrated in several other debates recently, there are facets of socialism within our government today that have existed for decades - the VA, Medicare, the Railroad Retirement system just to name a few. These are all programs run and operated by the federal government. True, none are run as effeciently as they could be, but then again when there is this...pull...between the responsibility towards those who stand to benefit most from these such programs and the efficiency and cost effectiveness of such programs where the argument continues to be "can private entities do the job better at a reduced cost where the mechanics of the free market should provail," my first question is "why don't we see more private-public cooperation" in that regard taking a more active role to fill the gaps where government falls short OR taking up this responsibility completely by the private sector to provide for the needy at every turn where the needs exsist? The answer is very simple: capitalism.
Our free market system will only provide something for free or at a reduced cost if it gives them a competitive advantage, i.e., free samples at the grocery store in the hope of driving up sales and capturing a good segment of the market. Pharmaceutical companies give out free samples of new medicines to patients in the hopes to drive sales of their drugs. It's a step away from those so-called "blind" experiments we've all heard about from the days of the Tuskegee Airmen experiments. Socialism is considered acceptable in these areas because they only apply to a specific segment of the population and not the whole, but if you look back through history you'll find that these programs were also heavily debated against their enactment before one common factor was taken into consideration - human compassion and decency to care for your fellow man.
Social programs do have a place in American society and our nation's government has tried to place much of the responsibility to manage such programs in the hands of the States. Medicare, Part D, for example, is tied into Medicaid which is a federal-state government partnership, and even it is tied into Social Security. There are questions on all side as to who can run "it" better but never the question invalidating the need for their existance.
The correct response to my post was "Sorry, Patria, turns out that socialism isn't actually unconstitutional, I'm just foaming at the mouth about libruls again."If you don't have an answer, just say so.
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