Ocean Temperatures Keep Shattering Records—and Stunning Scientists

[Nomad4Ever]

Ocean Temperatures Keep Shattering Records—and Stunning Scientists

Sea surface temperatures have been skyrocketing beyond expectations. That may be a bad sign for hurricane season—and the health of ocean ecosystems.

www.wired.com

Really, this is basically all you need to see. You can see how 2023 shattered records. But somehow 2024 is practically off the charts just at the start of the year.

“In the tropical eastern Atlantic, it’s four months ahead of pace—it’s looking like it’s already June out there,” says Brian McNoldy, a hurricane researcher at the University of Miami. “It’s really getting to be strange that we’re just seeing the records break by this much, and for this long.”

But more subtly, when the surface warms, it creates a cap of hot water, blocking the nutrients in colder waters below from mixing upwards. Phytoplankton need those nutrients to properly grow and sequester carbon, thus mitigating climate change.

That's right. If the ocean warms enough it just kinda dies. Epic. But no no lets not worry about it at all.

 

[Winston]

Ocean Temperatures Keep Shattering Records—and Stunning Scientists

Sea surface temperatures have been skyrocketing beyond expectations. That may be a bad sign for hurricane season—and the health of ocean ecosystems.

www.wired.com

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Really, this is basically all you need to see. You can see how 2023 shattered records. But somehow 2024 is practically off the charts just at the start of the year.



That's right. If the ocean warms enough it just kinda dies. Epic. But no no lets not worry about it at all.

It’s 63 degrees ambient air temperature in February.. in Michigan.

When I was a kid February was deep winter, 3-4 feet of snow on the ground at any given time.

It was not “just weather” to have 63 degree days in February

 

[samiam5211]

Detroit February Records

 

[Winston]

Detroit February Records

Those are the records. Temperatures have been abnormally high all month.

 

[Winston]

Detroit February Records

https://www.axios.com/2024/02/20/february-record-warm-oceans-hurricanes

 

[BirdinHand]

Dolphin (porpoise dolphin) were seen in the DE Bay yesterday.

Completely abnormal for this time of year.

 

[samiam5211]

Those are the records. Temperatures have been abnormally high all month.

Yea Feb has been warmer than normal for most of the US. January was below normal for much of the US.

It has been below normal for Siberia in Feb.

March will be below normal for most of the United States.

 

[Winston]

Yea Feb has been warmer than normal for most of the US.

It has been below normal for Siberia.

March will be below normal for most of the United States.

It’s because we’re doing nothing to stop climate change

 

[samiam5211]

It’s because we’re doing nothing to stop climate change

When there is high pressure blocking over Greenland, it is cold in the US.

There hasn't been blocking over Greenland in Feb.

 

[Winston]

When there is high pressure blocking over Greenland, it is cold in the US.

There hasn't been blocking over Greenland in Feb.

Before the winter kicked off they were saying they were predicting a warm winter because of El Niño

 

[samiam5211]

Before the winter kicked off they were saying they were predicting a warm winter because of El Niño

Yes, without blocking over Greenland, the air across the US comes from the warm pacific.

We had an arctic outbreak in Jan because there was blocking over Greenland.

 

[Luce]

I don't want this to be true, so [insert fallacies here]

 

[PoS]

OMG! The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

 

[Nomad4Ever]

OMG! The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

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You’re right. Don’t look up or something right?

 

[watsup]

Winters have been noticeably warm here in Missouri for the past few years. There are certainly still “cold snaps”, but the overall winter weather is way too warm.

 

[Luce]

OMG! The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

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See? CALLED IT!

 

[mrjurrs]

Ocean Temperatures Keep Shattering Records—and Stunning Scientists

Sea surface temperatures have been skyrocketing beyond expectations. That may be a bad sign for hurricane season—and the health of ocean ecosystems.

www.wired.com

View attachment 67493521

Really, this is basically all you need to see. You can see how 2023 shattered records. But somehow 2024 is practically off the charts just at the start of the year.



That's right. If the ocean warms enough it just kinda dies. Epic. But no no lets not worry about it at all.

And the first world yawns...

 

[Lord of Planar]

Ocean Temperatures Keep Shattering Records—and Stunning Scientists

Sea surface temperatures have been skyrocketing beyond expectations. That may be a bad sign for hurricane season—and the health of ocean ecosystems.

www.wired.com

View attachment 67493521

Really, this is basically all you need to see. You can see how 2023 shattered records. But somehow 2024 is practically off the charts just at the start of the year.



That's right. If the ocean warms enough it just kinda dies. Epic. But no no lets not worry about it at all.

Too bad they didn't link any studies that would allow us to see the data points. We most certainly don't have enough ocean monitoring points to take enough actual measurement.

this might not mean anything. Need to count all the votes (data points) as missed regions might be cooler.

the fact is, this is shaky. Might be true, but we cannot count on it.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Yea Feb has been warmer than normal for most of the US. January was below normal for much of the US.

It has been below normal for Siberia in Feb.

March will be below normal for most of the United States.

Yes, February seems a little warmer but in normal range, but damn. Coldest January I witnessed here, and I moved to the area in 1994. This is the first time I recall seeing 15 F here.

 

[longview]

I think there is a large misconception about how the ocean warms.
First off the Air has a very limited capability to change the water temperature.
Mostly the water warms the air, not the other way around.
Increased downward longwave radiation would only cause limited warming of the top few mm of water,
as water is almost opaque to longwave radiation.
In addition, since 2002, the downward longwave radiation, has been decreasing not increasing.
What is left that would cause ocean warming is a large increase in the absorbed solar radiation,(shortwave).
Herein lies the problem, changing future CO2 levels, will not change the absorbed solar radiation.
Greenhouse gases are called that, because they are largely transparent to the shortwave light, and absorb longwave light,
following the pattern of how Sunlight warms a greenhouse.

 

[Lord of Planar]

It’s because we’re doing nothing to stop climate change

We would have to rebuild a new shipping fleet, or stop buying from Asia. Do you realize these ocean going vessels are allowed to pollute like crazy, and burn very nasty dirty oil? I can see the very likely possibility that this shipping traffic we have, has grown so large, that it seeds the clouds to rain too early, and back into the oceans. This will reduce the percentage of cloud cover, and in turn increases the global surface insolation. An increased surface insolation means more heat coming from the sun, and warms the planet.

 

[Lord of Planar]

I think there is a large misconception about how the ocean warms.
First off the Air has a very limited capability to change the water temperature.
Mostly the water warms the air, not the other way around.
Increased downward longwave radiation would only cause limited warming of the top few mm of water,
as water is almost opaque to longwave radiation.
In addition, since 2002, the downward longwave radiation, has been decreasing not increasing.
What is left that would cause ocean warming is a large increase in the absorbed solar radiation,(shortwave).
Herein lies the problem, changing future CO2 levels, will not change the absorbed solar radiation.
Greenhouse gases are called that, because they are largely transparent to the shortwave light, and absorb longwave light,
following the pattern of how Sunlight warms a greenhouse.

Yes, and I think my previous post and yours support each other, along with that study that shows warming from an increases solar absorption.

 

[Winston]

We would have to rebuild a new shipping fleet, or stop buying from Asia. Do you realize these ocean going vessels are allowed to pollute like crazy, and burn very nasty dirty oil? I can see the very likely possibility that this shipping traffic we have, has grown so large, that it seeds the clouds to rain too early, and back into the oceans. This will reduce the percentage of cloud cover, and in turn increases the global surface insolation. An increased surface insolation means more heat coming from the sun, and warms the planet.

We need regulation

Just 100 companies responsible for 71% of global emissions, study says | Guardian sustainable business | The Guardian

A relatively small number of fossil fuel producers and their investors could hold the key to tackling climate change

amp.theguardian.com

 

[longview]

We need regulation

Just 100 companies responsible for 71% of global emissions, study says | Guardian sustainable business | The Guardian

A relatively small number of fossil fuel producers and their investors could hold the key to tackling climate change

amp.theguardian.com

So what would you regulate?

 

[Winston]

So what would you regulate?

Not up to me. I would listen to the science