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that sort of viewpoint is hollow and self serving. Please read this article. It destroys completely and utterly the silly charge that these are people who simply envy what others have.
Wall Street Isn't Winning It's Cheating | Matt Taibbi | Rolling Stone
that sort of viewpoint is hollow and self serving. Please read this article. It destroys completely and utterly the silly charge that these are people who simply envy what others have.
Wall Street Isn't Winning It's Cheating | Matt Taibbi | Rolling Stone
American history is rich in such actions. During the Depression we had both the Hoovervilles all over the land and the Bonus Army that came to Washington and lived there.
Sssssssooooo, you think this fraud of a response in letter photo'd and pasted on some message board is written by a conservative? Why is that?
j-mac
It was dropped by anonymous counter-occupy protestors.
And why not? May as well occupy towns and cities all over the United States in order to get the desired outcome, whatever that might be.
It's not a pretty sight watching the country which was once the greatest hope for mankind self-destruct.
I read the article and saw nothing of the Dodds/Frank Bill or the idea that everyone wants bail-outs.
In fact, the article says next to nothing about what OWS or the other Occupy movements are about. The author, like so many other people who are upset about our current problems, wants to believe that OWS shares his views and concerns, but offers no reasons for anyone else to think so. In fact, the article makes the opposite case. Although he makes some unsubstantiated charges of corruption on Wall Street, 99% of his article is about his anger over government policies, mostly of the Obama administration, while the only consistent message coming from the Occupy movements is anger over "corporate greed" - meaning pursuing profits is a bad thing - and inequality of wealth - meaning that they are pissed that some people have more money than they do.
as someone who has sat in on military staff meetings as they planned campaigns; a piece of advice.... you sort of really need to know what your desired outcome is before you start trying to achieve it.
as someone who has sat in on military staff meetings as they planned campaigns; a piece of advice.... you sort of really need to know what your desired outcome is before you start trying to achieve it.just a hint, from me to you. do with it what you will.
that is correct. but given the events of the past three years, I have some hope.
Why would an article explaining why people are mad at cheaters on Wall Street talk about Dodd/Frank except possible to mention the effort to bring back some sane regulation?
It seems that many people are confused about OWS because it is structurally very different from the type of top down leader led protests of the past they are familiar with. All of the things in the article are issues that the author and people in the movement are concerned with. Speaking for myself, I very strongly identify with much of what he said.
This nonsense about envy and anger at others having more money is the requisite right wing fall back position to play ostrich and hide their heads from any real examination of what is wrong. Its comforting to the right to be able to write off all this populist anger as mere jealousy and thus not have to really do anything about it.
Its not going away. And its not envy. We do not want to break into your sub-zero four foot wide frig and steal all your Beluga caviar. We do not want to break into your eight car heated garage and steal the keys to the Bentley and do figure eights on your fine trimmed manicured lawn. We do not want to steal the floor length mink fur coat and use it for toilet tissue. We do NOT want what you think is so precious and so important.
What we do want is a just and sustainable society where economic justice is the rule and cheaters are punished instead of rewarded. By now, this should be very very clear to anyone who wants to see what is behind all this.
Could be that the majority of them are pretty wealthy, or that they realize how stupid they might sound saying "why yes...I AGREE with the protesters and being upset with the influence banks and brokers have on politicians and I would LOVE to talk more about it, but right now I'm on my way to a fundraiser hosted by banks and brokers..."Ever wonder why our politicians are strangely silent? I do.
Ever wonder why our politicians are strangely silent? I do.
good question. I suspect some see it as a threat to their adopted belief system while others see it as something that could blow up in their face should they get on the wrong side of it - which ever side that may be. So the safe path is to stay away from it in the hopes it dies out with the winter snows.
What we do want is a just and sustainable society where economic justice is the rule and cheaters are punished instead of rewarded. By now, this should be very very clear to anyone who wants to see what is behind all this.
I say we have the "Occupied", everywhere just step down and let the "Occupants" show what they can do.Occupy Philadelphia costs city $400,000 in police surveillance - Philly.com
Links to the costs to other cities
At a cost of $400,000 a week, the cost to the city's residents could quickly run into millions of dollars at a time when the city has already been forced to cut back on some services because of declining revenues. Should these protesters and those in other cities be required to cover the costs to the city, so that its residents, often those most vulnerable and dependent on city services, do not have to face further cutbacks because of Occupy Philadelphia?
It seems that many people are confused about OWS because it is structurally very different from the type of top down leader led protests of the past they are familiar with. All of the things in the article are issues that the author and people in the movement are concerned with. Speaking for myself, I very strongly identify with much of what he said.
This nonsense about envy and anger at others having more money is the requisite right wing fall back position to play ostrich and hide their heads from any real examination of what is wrong. Its comforting to the right to be able to write off all this populist anger as mere jealousy and thus not have to really do anything about it.
Its not going away. And its not envy. We do not want to break into your sub-zero four foot wide frig and steal all your Beluga caviar. We do not want to break into your eight car heated garage and steal the keys to the Bentley and do figure eights on your fine trimmed manicured lawn. We do not want to steal the floor length mink fur coat and use it for toilet tissue. We do NOT want what you think is so precious and so important.
What we do want is a just and sustainable society where economic justice is the rule and cheaters are punished instead of rewarded. By now, this should be very very clear to anyone who wants to see what is behind all this.
Sssssssooooo, you think this fraud of a response in letter photo'd and pasted on some message board is written by a conservative? Why is that?
j-mac
Where did I say it written by a conservative? I mentioned the mode of thinking goes hand and hand with Ayn Rand and that turd called Atlas Shrugged.
No, I don't think that the Tea Party should have paid either. The message doesn't matter. The groups aren't forming a St. Paddy's Parade, they are protesting.Sorry Mickey, bad analogy. Fees, and permit hurdles in your mind are only for those that don't promote the message you agree with?
j-mac
No, I don't think that the Tea Party should have paid either. The message doesn't matter. The groups aren't forming a St. Paddy's Parade, they are protesting.
Such cockiness. There isn't a single Wall Streeter that can do my job. Let their fat asses fall where they may. They think they are going to waltz into 85K jobs in the private sector? They can't even account for themselves.
Refund the Tea Party rallies.So either charge the Occupy rally equally, or refund the Tea parties that already paid, right?
j-mac
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