Obama's FY 2012 Budget

liblady · Feb 14, 2011

Conservative said:
What does Clinton or Nixon have to do with what is going on now? I survived a lot of Presidents and don't expect the President to give me what I want but instead to provide a policy that allows me to generate what I NEED. You seem to have a vision for the Federal Govt. that is contrary to the freedoms guaranteed in our Constitution. It isn't the government's role to provide you what you want and in spite of all the money we spend all we have to show for it is a huge debt and the problems remain. How much money is wasted each year on healthcare, education, and the EPA and still the problems exist? Why aren't you demanding accountability for all that money that is being spent and wasted by the Federal Govt. that you support?

we disagree. it's the government's role to work to achieve equality of opportunity. i hate government waste, and i don't think obama is serious about reducing it, of course, which president really has been? EPA? republican presidents take the teeth out of envrionmental protections, dems add the teeth back. we go back and forth. you seem to think that everyone is capable of taking care of themselves. they're not. of course, when it's corporate welfare, that's just peachy.

i expect our president, and our government, to focus on the people of the country, and not on just the wealthy, or the corporations. i'm a liberal, after all. and i make no apologies for it. there is nothing wrong with a hand up.

j-mac · Feb 14, 2011

randel said:
i'd love to see that 'masterplan' as well....won't happen though, as it doesnt exist except for in his mind

I don't know how ANYONE can sit at their computer this morning, and type what you just did here. Are you kidding me? Juvenile responses like 'Oh, I'd like to see this "Master plan" inserting as much snark as possible in written word. Have you been paying attention to his and his administrations actions the past two years? It's been all about redistribution of the wealth, and opportunity in this country to his allies, and friends in some quasi socialist pay to play scheme that is quickly bankrupting this country.

.....anyhoo, as you well know, if obama had an (R) next to his name, this budget would be all well and good, and everything in it absolutely neccessary to the continued existence of this country.

Wah, wah, wah....Why won't the mean repubs let him do what ever he wants to do.....boo boo lip.

Let me tell ya something, liblady was the first to chime in with this banal tripe of "I want, I want, I want....Well, I want a new truck, and brand new house, and a flat screen TV complete with HD Sat service, but we just can't afford it. So, I must make due with my trusty 97 F150, my 30 year old home, and my current entertainment system...Why is it so hard for the lib politicians like Chairman Maobama to do the same?

j-mac

liblady · Feb 14, 2011

Gill said:
Ahhh, so you believe Obama can "change society for the better" by just waving his magic wand ??? Since this thread is about Obama's obscene budget, I think its safe to say that he has every intention of "throwing more money" at it, just like he's done in the past. And.... since you obviously worship the ground he walks on, it's a safe assumption that you probably agree with him.

You see, I went to school before there was a Dept of Education, so I got a very rounded education that included logic.

well, that explains it.

j-mac · Feb 14, 2011

liblady said:
it's the government's role to work to achieve equality of opportunity.

Could you please point this out in the United States Constitution? Or any of the founding documents for that matter.

This may be the goal, and mission of Venezuela, maybe you'd be happier there, I am sure Hugo would agree with you.

j-mac

liblady · Feb 14, 2011

Conservative said:
I don't hate my fellow citizens that is why I contibute significantly to local charities and why I believe that it is the goal of the states to handle social issues. Sorry if I misinterpreted your claim as to what you want as being an equal outcome demand. If you don't have an opportunity for a good education then why? If you don't have the opportunity for affordable healthcare then the question is why? What drives up the cost of healthcare? What prevents you from getting a good education?

This thread is about the Obama budget so what is it in that budget if not just more spending that generates the results you WANT?

lol.......greed drives up the cost of healthcare, no matter how you slice it. and since when is it wrong to expect a government, by the people, of the people and FOR the people, to SERVE THE PEOPLE?

randel · Feb 14, 2011

j-mac said:
I don't know how ANYONE can sit at their computer this morning, and type what you just did here. Are you kidding me? Juvenile responses like 'Oh, I'd like to see this "Master plan" inserting as much snark as possible in written word. Have you been paying attention to his and his administrations actions the past two years? It's been all about redistribution of the wealth, and opportunity in this country to his allies, and friends in some quasi socialist pay to play scheme that is quickly bankrupting this country.

Wah, wah, wah....Why won't the mean repubs let him do what ever he wants to do.....boo boo lip.

Let me tell ya something, liblady was the first to chime in with this banal tripe of "I want, I want, I want....Well, I want a new truck, and brand new house, and a flat screen TV complete with HD Sat service, but we just can't afford it. So, I must make due with my trusty 97 F150, my 30 year old home, and my current entertainment system...Why is it so hard for the lib politicians like Chairman Maobama to do the same?

j-mac

:coffeepap mornin' j...show me this plan j, i have yet to see it....sorry, i don't believe obama to be doctor evil, planning the downfall of this country, sorry, i don't....have a problem with that? get over it, i have.

liblady · Feb 14, 2011

j-mac said:
Could you please point this out in the United States Constitution? Or any of the founding documents for that matter.

This may be the goal, and mission of Venezuela, maybe you'd be happier there, I am sure Hugo would agree with you.

j-mac

lol......i'm not sure you would be happy anywhere.

Mr. Invisible · Feb 14, 2011

j-mac said:
Could you please point this out in the United States Constitution? Or any of the founding documents for that matter.

This may be the goal, and mission of Venezuela, maybe you'd be happier there, I am sure Hugo would agree with you.

j-mac

I like Hugo Chavez. He's a good guy

But yes, I also thihk that there is a moral aspect to government and that is to ensure equality.

Gill · Feb 14, 2011

Mr. Invisible said:
Attention all Conservatives!

Attention all Conservatives!

Calling all Conservatives!

We understand that you do not like the current President. We know this. Please stop making theses threads which have no purpose other than to bash Obama. The rest of us already understand that you don't like him, what your doing is just overstating fact.

A thread on Obama's federal budget is only about bashing him ????

You forgot to mention that its probably racist too...

You're slipping.

j-mac · Feb 14, 2011

liblady said:
lol......i'm not sure you would be happy anywhere.

So that is a "No" then....Great thanks for playin'.....NEXT!

j-mac

Mr. Invisible · Feb 14, 2011

Gill said:
A thread on Obama's federal budget is only about bashing him ????

You forgot to mention that its probably racist too...

You're slipping.

No it is not racist. Try using that brain of yours sometime, it can do wonders!

Slartibartfast · Feb 14, 2011

I would be happy in Finland, its a far better place than Venezuela and is a strong social democracy

Gill · Feb 14, 2011

liblady said:
well, that explains it.

You're right. What's your excuse?

Conservative · Feb 14, 2011

liblady said:
we disagree. it's the government's role to work to achieve equality of opportunity. i hate government waste, and i don't think obama is serious about reducing it, of course, which president really has been? EPA? republican presidents take the teeth out of envrionmental protections, dems add the teeth back. we go back and forth. you seem to think that everyone is capable of taking care of themselves. they're not. of course, when it's corporate welfare, that's just peachy.

i expect our president, and our government, to focus on the people of the country, and not on just the wealthy, or the corporations. i'm a liberal, after all. and i make no apologies for it. there is nothing wrong with a hand up.

You seem to miss the point, everything that you expect the Federal Govt. to do is at the state and local level yet for some reason you ignore that. The Constitution requires equal opportunity so if they cannot assure equal opportunity previously how is throwing more money at the problem going to create it? There is a state EPA agency so what can the Federal Govt. do that the states aren't doing? Seems to me you have a problem with your state that you want the Federal Govt. to correct for you. History shows you are in for a big disappointment. All this class warfare you are promoting and for what purpose?

Gill · Feb 14, 2011

Mr. Invisible said:
No it is not racist. Try using that brain of yours sometime, it can do wonders!

Ahhh, not racist to discuss our federal budget, just "bashing" ????

Got it.

liblady · Feb 14, 2011

Gill said:
You're right. What's your excuse?

i don't think we need to do this.

randel · Feb 14, 2011

Conservative said:
You seem to miss the point, everything that you expect the Federal Govt. to do is at the state and local level yet for some reason you ignore that. The Constitution requires equal opportunity so if they cannot assure equal opportunity previously how is throwing more money at the problem going to create it? There is a state EPA agency so what can the Federal Govt. do that the states aren't doing? Seems to me you have a problem with your state that you want the Federal Govt. to correct for you. History shows you are in for a big disappointment. All this class warfare you are promoting and for what purpose?

ahh yes...class warfare...gotta love those buzzwords in the morning

liblady · Feb 14, 2011

j-mac said:
So that is a "No" then....Great thanks for playin'.....NEXT!

j-mac

see i touched a nerve. ;-)

Conservative · Feb 14, 2011

liblady said:
lol.......greed drives up the cost of healthcare, no matter how you slice it. and since when is it wrong to expect a government, by the people, of the people and FOR the people, to SERVE THE PEOPLE?

Greed? What is the profit margin for healthcare companies? You claim there is greed yet haven't offered any specifics, just liberal talking points? You don't seem to understand how govt. affects the costs on business and return on investment.

Gill · Feb 14, 2011

liblady said:
i don't think we need to do this.

Simple solution.... don't start it next time.

liblady · Feb 14, 2011

Gill said:
A thread on Obama's federal budget is only about bashing him ????

You forgot to mention that its probably racist too...

You're slipping.

lol...leave it to you to play the race card. well done.

Conservative · Feb 14, 2011

liblady said:
lol...leave it to you to play the race card. well done.

Liblady, please provide for us the profit margin of those evil healthcare companies that you claim are greedy?

j-mac · Feb 14, 2011

randel said:
:coffeepap mornin' j...show me this plan j, i have yet to see it

And to think that for some three years Greenie, you led everyone to believe that you were a conservative, or at least tried to, until I exposed you......See, it is just that. Deception. You want me to show you something as if it were written down all nice and neat in a presentation form that you could read. Well, wake up comrade, this is the real world. It is presented by not what Obama has said necessarily, we all know what a liar he is, but in his actions, and whom he surrounds himself with for the past two years. This tactic of constantly playing dumb wears thin.

sorry, i don't believe obama to be doctor evil, planning the downfall of this country, sorry, i don't....have a problem with that?

Ah, so you don't believe Obama to be actively destroying the country as we have known it, yet you don't have a problem with it if he does. Interesting.

get over it, i have.

Nah, I like my liberty. Maybe you enjoy a more structured existence with your Government daddy telling you what you can eat, drive, watch, write, say, do, buy, and how to live like a good little Obamabot, not me pal.

j-mac

Gill · Feb 14, 2011

liblady said:
lol...leave it to you to play the race card. well done.

Figured I would beat you to it... I knew the accusation would be thrown up by one of you sooner or later. Seems you can't resist.

randel · Feb 14, 2011

j-mac said:
And to think that for some three years Greenie, you led everyone to believe that you were a conservative, or at least tried to, until I exposed you......See, it is just that. Deception. You want me to show you something as if it were written down all nice and neat in a presentation form that you could read. Well, wake up comrade, this is the real world. It is presented by not what Obama has said necessarily, we all know what a liar he is, but in his actions, and whom he surrounds himself with for the past two years. This tactic of constantly playing dumb wears thin.

Ah, so you don't believe Obama to be actively destroying the country as we have known it, yet you don't have a problem with it if he does. Interesting.

Nah, I like my liberty. Maybe you enjoy a more structured existence with your Government daddy telling you what you can eat, drive, watch, write, say, do, buy, and how to live like a good little Obamabot, not me pal.

j-mac

you 'exposed ' me?:lamo keep your hands off me!! hmmmm...i ask for 'proof' of the 'masterplan' and you can't provide it...hmmm...:roll: surprise surprise surprise. you really need to put the kool aid down, and take a step back.

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