At higher ER costs. Yeah, that's ****ing brilliant.:roll:Oh no, more people will get treated for injuries and illnesses. THIS IS TERRIBLE!
Dr. Arthur L. Kellermann predicts this from the new law: "More people will have coverage and will be less afraid to go to the emergency department if they're sick or hurt and have nowhere else to go.... We just don't have other places in the system for these folks to go."
At higher ER costs. Yeah, that's ****ing brilliant.:roll:
I stopped reading here because you started from a position of ignorance of the subject, no reason to read further. This isn't about traumatic or life threatening situations, this about people with the ****ing sniffles abusing the more expensive ER and how it will INCREASE. You are either misrepresenting the situation deliberately or you don't get the point of the discussion, either way you are wrong.Yeah those hurt people with nowhere else to go should just stay home so that it doesn't cost us money!
I stopped reading here because you started from a position of ignorance of the subject, no reason to read further. This isn't about traumatic or life threatening situations, this about people with the ****ing sniffles abusing the more expensive ER and how it will INCREASE. You are either misrepresenting the situation deliberately or you don't get the point of the discussion, either way you are wrong.
I see you can't read between the lines very well, the article indeed mentioned it if you know the issues on healthcare and know what the words mean.Masterful debate, sir.
The article in the OP didn't mention "the sniffles." It wasn't even about "abusing" the ER.
I see you can't read between the lines very well, the article indeed mentioned it if you know the issues on healthcare and know what the words mean.
Do you have any evidence that the ratio will favor ER visits over GP visits?
You really think that don't you?More people will be accessing healthcare as a whole. (THIS IS A GOOD THING) Seeing as how more people will have insurance, more people will likely go see their GP. More people will also go to the ER, as they'll be less scared about the cost of doing so.
For "emergency" stabalize and realease vs. physicians costs the ER visit usually equates to free for the abuser. What can beat free?Do you have any evidence that the ratio will favor ER visits over GP visits? Because if the ratio favors the much-cheaper GP visit, average cost per-person would be going down, yes?
Yeah those hurt people with nowhere else to go should just stay home so that it doesn't cost us money!
More people are going to be accessing health care, so yes, there will be more people at ER's too. An increase in demand on such services. If only there was some other market force that could adapt to this change... some way to increase the number of available doctors and hospitals...
The solution to crowded ER's isn't fewer patients, for god's sake.
And praytell - with Obama attacking physicians and Dr's on a personal level, supporting the lowering of their pay - and with changes in the healthcare bill actually chasing Dr's away from their areas of practices . . . pray tell how are you going to get *more* people to become Dr's?
There is already a shortage of Dr's, nurses, physicians - do you know how many hours Dr's work during a week?
If the ones we *do* have in practice aren't enough - then HOW are we going to get more?
On top of that - it's not just a "dr/nurse" increase that will be needed. It's a "secretary, receptionist, supply specialist" - really - EVERY position in the entire healthcare field will become more stressed and those people will be in more demand. . .how can we fill all those positions that will be opened?
I think our specializations have led to more effective medicine. If I have a melanoma, as an example, who do I want to remove it? A general surgeon who sees one a week? Or a specialist that sees 40? Doctors have got to let go of some of their responsibiities and put them in the hands of Nurse Practitioners and just nurses in general. I was receiving ongoing treatment where I saw "the doctor" once a week. The nurse who talked to me B4 hand gave me all the information I needed. The doctor simply came in for three minutes and blessed me. Charge for that blessing? $140.I actually read an interesting idea recently about an "assembly line" health care model. Right now, we have guys going to eight years of medical school, working through residency and all that, all to end up doing one specific task. Is it necessary to get all of that education just to read an x-ray? You could have one guy just learn all about x-ray machines and how to interpret the results. Learning about circulatory problems or communicable diseases isn't particularly important to X-Ray Man. Yes, you'd still need the full-blown M.D. guys to be GP's or surgeons or some of the more complicated specialists, but there's probably quite a few jobs that don't really need the highly-educated 200k/year doctor. Seemed like a good idea... in theory. But I'm hardly an expert.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?