Obamacare could cost you $4,000 a year

[celticlord]

Obama's health plan is tough on the middle class - Aug. 20, 2009

The conclusion is shocking. Middle- and upper-middle class Americans could face an enormous increase in their premiums. The hit could easily approach $4,000 for someone earning less than $90,000 -- or more than double that increase as soon as the worker's pay hits six figures. That's because Obama's plan would collect hundreds of billions of dollars in new taxes at the expense of medium earners, and re-channel the money into subsidies for the uninsured, low-income earners, and union retirees over age 55.

So much for lowering the cost of health care. The more these ideas get dissected the more it becomes apparent they are moving very much in the wrong direction.

Why is Congressing laboring so hard and so long to raise health care costs?

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Did you read the article?

Now that it's highly possible that the Obama administration will drop the requirement for a public-insurance option from its health-care agenda, it's enlightening to examine what the remaining plan means for most Americans.


If the public option had evolved into a program resembling Medicare for most working Americans --what Conservatives feared and many Democrats wanted -- it might have provided rich coverage, at bargain premiums, for people with moderate incomes.


That won't happen with the proposed alternative, medical co-ops, because they won't pack nearly the purchasing power of a government-run plan to push down prices. Nor will the co-ops get the government subsidies that would likely radically lower premiums under a public option, just as they do under Medicare.

Seems to me the author is saying hey if you don't get this public option, the plan without that public option could cost you a lot of money. That does not really support your argument does it?

 

[formerroadie]

Did you read the article?




Seems to me the author is saying hey if you don't get this public option, the plan without that public option could cost you a lot of money. That does not really support your argument does it?

Exactly. He's posting an article that proves him wrong. HAHA. :rofl

 

[celticlord]

Seems to me the author is saying hey if you don't get this public option, the plan without that public option could cost you a lot of money. That does not really support your argument does it?

Seems to me the argument is...public plan sucks, HR3200 without the public plan sucks, so do the smart thing and stop pretending that Congress is doing anything serious about reforming health care.

 

[RightinNYC]

I didn't read the rest of the article, but the math that guy is using is absolutely terrible.

 

[ewm90]

Obama's health plan is tough on the middle class - Aug. 20, 2009

So much for lowering the cost of health care. The more these ideas get dissected the more it becomes apparent they are moving very much in the wrong direction.

Why is Congressing laboring so hard and so long to raise health care costs?

Well according to some sites I looked up thats what it costs now and the price will go up so it would be a savings after the increase.

Calculator Results:

Medical Care Use
Office Visits (Annual) 10.00
In Network Care ($ / Year) 5,000.00
Out of Network Care ($ / Year) 0.00

Health Insurance Option 1
Monthly Premiums ($ / Year) 3,600.00
Copayment ($ / Year) 200.00
Standard Deductibles ($ / Year) 0.00

Coinsurance Deductible ($ / Year) 0.00
Coinsurance Payments ($ / Year) 0.00
Total Cost Health Insurance Option 1 ($ / Year) 3,800.00


Health Insurance Option 2
Monthly Premiums ($ / Year) 3,600.00
Copayment ($ / Year) 0.00
Standard Deductibles ($ / Year) 1,500.00

Coinsurance Deductible ($ / Year) 0.00
Coinsurance Payments ($ / Year) 0.00
Total Cost Health Insurance Option 2 ($ / Year) 5,100.00

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I got it you are scared that your costs will go up. If we do nothing I can say with much more confidence your rates will go up.

 

[formerroadie]

I got it you are scared that your costs will go up. If we do nothing I can say with much more confidence your rates will go up.

and astronomically.