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Those items you point out in the sign are how the government promotes the general welfare. They provide benefits to everyone.Not sure why the "That" and the "It" threads were never merged... nevertheless, here's hoping some people get better informed about the 'That' and the 'It'.
Those items you point out in the sign are how the government promotes the general welfare. They provide benefits to everyone.
Collectivists will believe this gives them the right to the wealth created by others. Perhaps it will take a revolution to decide.
This is the problem with both sides, over-generlizations, all or nothing thinking.
"Collectivists" is fantasy, they don't exist. Nobody believes that.
You throw around these words that have nothing to do with reality.
No body wants to give freebies out to non-producing layabouts. But the conversation has to start from a place of understanding of how public and private work together to benefit everyone. A business gets a tax credit when it expands in manner that grows its labor force. That makes sense.
Of course they do, welfare rolls are bigger than ever.
That's due to hard times and not evidence anyone believes that. Poor reasoning leads to poor conclusions. :coffeepap
That doesn't actually refute what was said. If people did not want to, then we would not be. Regardless of hard times.
That doesn't actually refute what was said. If people did not want to, then we would not be. Regardless of hard times.
This is the problem with both sides, over-generlizations, all or nothing thinking.
"Collectivists" is fantasy, they don't exist. Nobody believes that.
You throw around these words that have nothing to do with reality.
Really? We had more people accepted as disabled than those who found work. Why is that? Well, if someone is declared disabled they come off he rolls of those looking for work. So the Obama Regime has more people working on getting people approved now for SS disability.No body wants to give freebies out to non-producing layabouts. But the conversation has to start from a place of understanding of how public and private work together to benefit everyone. A business gets a tax credit when it expands in manner that grows its labor force. That makes sense.
You're showing some real nutter stuff. It really makes those who swallow this look bad. :coffeepap
Nonsense. True, we could have them as we did in the great depression. Jobs didn't just spring up then either. We just let people suffer. His reasoning assumes that the only reason is people wanting to be on the dole. There is little to no evidence to support that for the majority.
If they didn't want to what? Feed their children?
You're showing some real nutter stuff. It really makes those who swallow this look bad. :coffeepap
I see. Well I can't see how you came to that conclusion on his reasoning based on the posts.
If Obama's argument is that government "helps" people have successful businesses, maybe he should know that business start up's are at a 30 year low.
Know what's at a 44-year low? Taxation! But wait, I thought low taxes resulted in job creation!! Why aren't we up to our asses in jobs? Did the Republicans lie to us?!
Know what's at a 44-year low? Taxation! But wait, I thought low taxes resulted in job creation!! Why aren't we up to our asses in jobs? Did the Republicans lie to us?!
It does lead to job creation, but since the job loss is so massive you need much lower taxes to combat it. 44-year low says nothing towards that.
Without the low taxes unemployment would be much worse.
Unfortunately regulations are up. Bring them down, way down and let's see what happens.Know what's at a 44-year low? Taxation! But wait, I thought low taxes resulted in job creation!! Why aren't we up to our asses in jobs? Did the Republicans lie to us?!
It didn't do a helluva lot before the recession, either. Bush oversaw the weakest economic expansion in post-war history. Weakest business investment. Weakest GDP growth. Weakest employent growth. Weakest earnings growth. All things we were promised those massive tax cuts would strengthen!
Know what's at a 44-year low? Taxation! But wait, I thought low taxes resulted in job creation!! Why aren't we up to our asses in jobs? Did the Republicans lie to us?!
Know what's at a 44-year low? Taxation! But wait, I thought low taxes resulted in job creation!! Why aren't we up to our asses in jobs? Did the Republicans lie to us?!
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