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WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama says it's now up to the Senate to take the baton from the House and pass a bill aimed at overhauling the nation's health care system.
The House narrowly passed a health care bill Saturday night. The Senate has yet to schedule a debate on its version of health care legislation, and Republicans are pledging to stop the Democratic measure from passing Congress.
Obama gave a brief statement on the health care initiative in the Rose Garden on Sunday after returning from the presidential retreat at Camp David.
The president says he's confident the Senate will pass a health care bill. He assured senators they will join House members in looking back on the passage of health care reform as their finest moment in public service.
Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
By John Whitesides
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN3041744020091108?sp=true
WASHINGTON, Nov 7 (Reuters) - After a narrow win in the U.S. House of Representatives, President Barack Obama's fight for a sweeping healthcare overhaul moves to the U.S. Senate where it faces a difficult path to approval.
The Senate's version of healthcare reform has been stalled as Democratic leader Harry Reid awaits cost estimates from congressional budget analysts and searches for an approach that can win the 60 votes needed to overcome Republican procedural hurdles.
Well, expectations are theoretically supposed to reflect constituencies in the House but they did not. In fact, back room deals were made to get 54% of the House "blue dogs" to vote with the most liberal members in Congress this country's ever seen. The basic hope was the conservative Democrats would vote who got them there - but that didn't happen.
Why would it be different in the Senate?
The Duma has spoken.
The Politburo is standing on guard ready to please The Mighty Edsel.
Welcome to the USSA.
Cap and Tax and Spend.
Trillions of government spending.
Government Motors.
State run Medical.
Just a beauty way to go.
Da?
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Well, expectations are theoretically supposed to reflect constituencies in the House but they did not. In fact, back room deals were made to get 54% of the House "blue dogs" to vote with the most liberal members in Congress this country's ever seen. The basic hope was the conservative Democrats would vote who got them there - but that didn't happen.
Why would it be different in the Senate?
Da.
I огорченное для думать для около меня камрад! Я буду хорошей марионеткой для политбюро в будущем. Простите моему вопросу.
What is it about freedom, and the Constitution you do not understand?What a bunch of WATB the conservatives are. I've been reading the multitude posts about the passing of the health care bill in the house last night. Such victimhood has never been more pathetically on display !!!!!
What a bunch of WATB the conservatives are. I've been reading the multitude posts about the passing of the health care bill in the house last night. Such victimhood has never been more pathetically on display !!!!!
I am cheering, like the House did last night, when the bill passed. Decades of trying has never gotten this far. Here's to America !!!!
LOL.
Не беспокойтесь товарищ, мы позволим этому идти на этот раз. OK?
OK.
What is it about freedom, and the Constitution you do not understand?
Just another product of our stellar public skoolz.
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LOL.
Не беспокойтесь товарищ, мы позволим этому идти на этот раз. OK?
OK.
What is it about freedom, and the Constitution you do not understand?
Just another product of our stellar public skoolz.
.
aw, c'mon, jackalope
until you can answer, well, ALL of the following grotesque objections, you're not being entirely serious
1. half a T cuts to m and m
2. mandates on individuals to buy that which they can't afford, fines if they don't, jail at the end
3. unfunded mandates on already bankrupt states, talk to difi and harry
4. dem governors ritter, gregoire, schweitzer and bill richardson have joined TN's phil bredesen as violent, vehement, vocal objectors to this forcing the states to underwrite hundreds of B's of obama's fantasies
5. ten years of taxes vs 6 or 7 years of bennies
6. the doc fixes
7. 1.4T, including the "fix"
8. how it's paid for---massive taxes, penalties, fines, mandates
9. the dire differences between house and senate creations
10. taxes on small biz and big biz, jobs killer
11. the fact that the cuts to m and m, huge part of how obama "pays for" crap, will never occur, destroying the deficit
12. taxes on the rich---dead letter in the senate
13. taxes on benefits---anathema to unions
14. taxes on insurers, manufacturers, pharmaceuticals
15. the incentive for employers to dump coverage
16. the crafting of all this in secret, dumped on membership and the public always at the last second
Let's do it for Teddy.The Duma has spoken.
The Politburo is standing on guard ready to please The Mighty Edsel.
Welcome to the USSA.
Cap and Tax and Spend.
Trillions of government spending.
Government Motors.
State run Medical.
Just a beauty way to go.
Da?
.
Opposition was silenced in the Soviet Union too, comrade.I can answer some of them. But, I'm not feeling inclined to stretch my keyboarding muscles. Good heavens, the behavior of the conservatives on the floor of the House yesterday --- jesus! Combined with the over-the-top signage at Bachman's Tea Rant, and some of the posts I've seen, I just don't care much about the whining lies.
YouTube- Unruly Republicans Disrupt Health Care Debate
I object. I object. I object. I object.
JUST STFU ! That's the only thing I thought when I saw some of this crap.
I don't include your posts there, Prof
Plus, I've been sick the last few days so I'm less patient with nonsense.
Opposition was silenced in the Soviet Union too, comrade.
What evidence do you have that they DIDN'T vote their constituencies wishes on this matter? Michaud certainly did, and so did Sanchez, and so did many many many more of the blue dogs who voted aye.
until you can answer, well, ALL of the following grotesque objections, you're not being entirely serious
1. half a T cuts to m and m
Such plans were introduced in the 1970s in an effort to cut Medicare costs. However, as the government sought to add coverage in underserved -- often rural -- areas, costs soared. According to the independent Medicare Payment Advisory Commission, Medicare Advantage now costs the government 14 percent more per beneficiary than traditional Medicare.
Let's do it for Teddy.
I'll take the first one, just to show how dishonest the arguments coming from the GOP are.
These "cuts" would not be in Medicare, but in the Medicare Advantage program, which is actually a giveaway to private insurance.
Medicare Advantage is a private health insurance program that was designed to compete with the government-run Medicare but never has, it's costs have always been much higher.
MEDICARE vs. MEDICARE ADVANTAGE - washingtonpost.com
All the house HC bill does is move people off these plans back to actual medicare, saving the taxpayers billions in waste.
Quit speaking another language, it's against the board's TOS.
And, you're an assuming so and so, aren't you? The bulk of my schooling was in PRIVATE schools.
And the conservatives are still WATBs. H O L Y C R A P.
Their 'shenanigans' on the floor of the House yesterday were a sight. The signage at their 'tea parties' is disgusting. And the posts I've seen around the net about this health care bill. OH MY GAWDS. wah wah wah wah :2wave:
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