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Obama: Public is 'sold' on tax increases in a debt-ceiling deal - TheHill.com"The American people are sold," he said. "The problem is members of Congress are dug in ideologically."
Obama said 80 percent of Americans are on his side in the debate over what to include in the debt package. Voters are paying attention to "who seems to be trying to get something done," the president said. "It's going to be in the interests of everybody who wants to serve in this town to make sure they are on the right side of that impression."
55% Oppose Tax Hike In Debt Ceiling Deal - Rasmussen Reports™As the Beltway politicians try to figure out how they will raise the debt ceiling and for how long, most voters oppose including tax hikes in the deal.
Just 34% think a tax hike should be included in any legislation to raise the debt ceiling. A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 55% disagree and say it should not. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
There is a huge partisan divide on the question. Fifty-eight percent (58%) of Democrats want a tax hike in the deal while 82% of Republicans do not. Among those not affiliated with either major political party, 35% favor a tax hike and 51% are opposed.
Obama: Public is 'sold' on tax increases in a debt-ceiling deal - TheHill.com
80% ?
Really?
Come now, 80%? That's a hell of a platform for 2012 "80% of you want more taxes, so I'm gonna give em to you!"
I guess he was speaking off Teleprompter again.
LOL.. He's pressing for some kind of tax increase anything that is an actual increase becasue he knows that the republican campaigned and won the house back promising no taxes.. He needs soimething desperately to hit them come 2012..
Tim-
What we can trust him that he'd actually push for legislation after the debt limit is raised and the taxes are raised that will significantly cut spending. Why shouldn't we trust him? I mean, why should we think that 6 months later he'd just come around, say the situation is different, and not push for the spending cuts or push for a spending increase like stimulus.
Its not like 6 months ago he agreed to not raise taxes and leave them at the current rates only to turn around now and push to raise taxes again.
....wait a minute
LOL.. He's pressing for some kind of tax increase anything that is an actual increase becasue he knows that the republican campaigned and won the house back promising no taxes.. He needs soimething desperately to hit them come 2012..
in military terminology we describe this as a "center of gravity". A center of gravity is that from which an opponent draws his strength - for example, if I have a poor defensive lined manned by conscripts, but an absolute 100% first rate massed artillery division behind them that you would have to fight through to get to that defensive line, then the artillery is my center of gravity. Even if you make no improvements to your own forces, if you can degrade / destroy / deny myy center of gravity, you improve my chances at victory.
Republicans Center of Gravity right now is their reputation as fiscal hawks. Obama needs to degrade it going into 2012 - that's why he's insisting on tax hikes.
'....reputation as fiscal hawks':lamoin military terminology we describe this as a "center of gravity". A center of gravity is that from which an opponent draws his strength - for example, if I have a poor defensive lined manned by conscripts, but an absolute 100% first rate massed artillery division behind them that you would have to fight through to get to that defensive line, then the artillery is my center of gravity. Even if you make no improvements to your own forces, if you can degrade / destroy / deny myy center of gravity, you improve my chances at victory.
Republicans Center of Gravity right now is their reputation as fiscal hawks. Obama needs to degrade it going into 2012 - that's why he's insisting on tax hikes.
in military terminology we describe this as a "center of gravity". A center of gravity is that from which an opponent draws his strength - for example, if I have a poor defensive lined manned by conscripts, but an absolute 100% first rate massed artillery division behind them that you would have to fight through to get to that defensive line, then the artillery is my center of gravity. Even if you make no improvements to your own forces, if you can degrade / destroy / deny myy center of gravity, you improve my chances at victory.
Republicans Center of Gravity right now is their reputation as fiscal hawks. Obama needs to degrade it going into 2012 - that's why he's insisting on tax hikes.
'....reputation as fiscal hawks':lamo
Why do you hate Obama so much? :lol:Oh yeah people let's DO THIS another Obama-bashing thread!!
And remember Obama's sekrit about what he is:
And what he supports (http://noisydove.com/wp-content/uploads/Obama-Socialism-1-300x240.gif)
Now, as to the OP, if a majority look at our situation and say yes, we ahve to use both cuts and tax increases to ballance the budget, I would say bravo. That's a good sign. However, I still think there is a disconnect to people wanting services but not wanting to do the things required to pay for them. We the people are a much larger problem than either the republican or democratic party.
I didn't say it was always earned. But with the Tea Party driving the party, that is indeed the current field. Obama needs to find a way to degrade the Republican Party's ability to depend on that center of gravity. HIS center of gravity is MediScare Demagoguery; which is why changes to that program were never really on the table.
Do you have any idea the irony of you referring to some one else's demagoguery?
Obama: Public is 'sold' on tax increases in a debt-ceiling deal - TheHill.com
80% ?
Really?
Come now, 80%? That's a hell of a platform for 2012 "80% of you want more taxes, so I'm gonna give em to you!"
I guess he was speaking off Teleprompter again.
55% Oppose Tax Hike In Debt Ceiling Deal - Rasmussen Reports™
Perhaps Obama polled welfare recipients...
The question asked in the poll you reference is: "As part of legislation to raise the debt ceiling, should congress and the president raise taxes?" which is worded in such a way that it is sure to get a low number.
Another poll with some what more telling numbers: On Deficit, Americans Prefer Spending Cuts; Open to Tax Hikes
The question: "as you may know, Congress can reduce the federal budget deficit by cutting spending, raising taxes, or a combination of the two. Ideally, how would you like to see Congress attempt to reduce the federal budget deficit(and the five options are rotated here)".
The results:
Only with spending cuts: 20 %
Mostly with spending cuts 30 %
Equally with spending cuts and tax increases: 32 %
Mostly with tax increases: 7 %
Only with tax increases: 4 %
That is 73 % that favor some tax increases. By the way, this is the poll that Obama took his number from, but he just subtracted the 20 % who said spending cuts only from 100 %, which is inaccurate.
Redress, fighting the good fight, OBAMA ALL THE WAY BABY! That man, can do no wrong, say nothing to deter his love, for "The One"
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