Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms

obama the moderate---LOL!

with the drop of an ill considered word he reverses decades of standing foreign policy, replacing years of thought and research with a typically obamite whim

was ms hillary consulted about this radical change, was foggy bottom?

mr blair?

somehow i think you know the answers

ms napolitano and mr brennan were never asked about mutallab

this president just makes this crap up as he goes along

and, once again, he gives all away gratis, gets nothing in return

what he WANTS to accomplish with his post-reality mumbo jumbo is to set some kinda poetic example for practitioners of realpolitik like ahmedinejad and kim to emulate

LOL!

obama is a radical extremist

he STILL believes he can change iran's obstinacy over a cup of coffee

he WANTS to lawyer up ksm with an oj-like dream team (heck, the best terrorist defenders in the world are already on ag holder's doj payroll) and move him to some people's court in lower manhattan presided over by some lance ito lookalike

he's managed to piss off the entire nation of israel as bad as if calypso louis were in the white house

he wants to raise serious taxes on ENERGY---both production and consumption---in the middle of our DEPRESSION

obama is a radical extremist

his health care is a 2700 page monstrosity of govt takeover---it's so UNPOPULAR the president knows it, hence his wheezing whistle stops in IOWA, in MAINE, in NORTH CAROLINA (where he's still trying to correct all those fishy thoughts in poor ms doris' misinformed mind...)

where's the result of the reachout, mr president?

when's america's image abroad gonna change---for the better?

when's that meeting gonna go down with the leaders of iran, sans preconditions?

not just a radical extremist is obama, he's the most incompetent politician at the national level america has ever seen, too

so he's off to prague to sign his pretty no-nuke pledge with the puppet master

except putin TODAY announces he reserves the right to renege

Russia reserves opt-out of arms treaty with US - Yahoo! News

the puppet master plays our perplexed prez like a pup

everyone does

did you hear what karzai said mere days after obama's surprise visit?

Karzai Slams the West Again - WSJ.com

obama's an amateur, over his head, he has no idea what he's doing

The Prof said:

obama's an amateur, over his head, he has no idea what he's doing

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But at least he knows how to use paragraphs to make his writing readable.

It's pretty naive to think that nukes can be made obsolete by treaties and announcements of intent. No need to tip your hand. Just quietly develop whatever countermeasures you can.

The Prof said:

obama the moderate---LOL!

with the drop of an ill considered word he reverses decades of standing foreign policy, replacing years of thought and research with a typically obamite whim

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Wrong again. It was Bush who reversed decades of policy by announcing he would use nukes whenever he felt like it. Obama is simply returning us to a more considered policy

WillRockwell said:

I think the point of this announcement was simply to negate the Bush beligeranced of "we'll use 'em when we damn well feel like it". There's no reason to incite that kind of fear in other nations, and it probably served to help the enlistment of terrorists.

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Which Bush never remotely said. Nice disingenuity. Do the lies from the left ever stop? What's next, did Bush call Obama the n-word?

Erod said:

Which Bush never remotely said. Nice disingenuity. Do the lies from the left ever stop? What's next, did Bush call Obama the n-word?

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It's almost certain he's thought it, so that's as good as saying it!

WillRockwell said:

It was Bush who reversed decades of policy by announcing he would use nukes whenever he felt like it.

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link?

LOL!

Obama is simply returning us to a more considered policy

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tell it to the times, sanger and baker appear to disagree

did you hear what karzai said saturday?

how about putin this morning?

embarrassing, no?

obama's an amateur, he has no idea how to conduct a responsible foreign policy

sorry

for example, the VERY DAY kim was sinking a south korean NAVY ship on the parallel, obama was IN IOWA selling his health care which had already passed

for example, the VERY DAY news broke of karzai's ridiculous threat to join the taliban, obama was spending the entire afternoon in charlotte answering doris' single question about taxes in the health care bill

while cartels kill our embassy employees and their families in ciudad juarez, obama goes to maine to court omnipresent olympia and call out rush and beck as "troublesome"

obama's an amateur, he has no idea how to run a foreign policy, let alone a white house in times of domestic and international crises

sorry

Councilman said:

Bio weapons can kill millions or at least 10s of thousands and to tell a potential enemy your plans or intentions and is about as stupid as you can get.

Obama is without any doubt the dumbest dumb ass in the history of the world.

No one unless he is a total (expletive) fool signals that he will allow some devastating attacks on their Nation and not have the most serious response possibly in reserve.

This is absolute proof Obama is either inviting an attack or welcoming one, and he has no concern for this Country or us as citizens what so ever.

Is this idiot out of his (expletive) mind?

He has taken the bluff possibility out of the equation. This is beyond Amateur to the point of being a really dumb ass but he invites an attack.

Even the stupid people who worship this fool should be outraged by this.

What is he up to?

You never ever tell a potential enemy what you might do in response even in a school yard situation with a bully.

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I am beginning to think this turd of a president is a manchurian candidate, a plant by some hostile nation like iran.

No rational person can understand what he's doing unless they place it in the perspective he is trying to destroy the country.

Bankrupting the US with a useless, unpopular and unaffordable health care plan, siding up to america's worst enemies like iran who have murdered thousands of americans, are building nuclear weapons, and are fomenting wars across the middle east - while angering and damaging relationships with solid allies like poland, czech republic, israel, etc.

I would support his impeachment and removal...

WillRockwell said:

It was Bush who reversed decades of policy by announcing he would use nukes whenever he felt like it.

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Whatever one thinks of President Bush's policymaking, President Bush did no such thing. For a summary of the nuclear posture during his Presidency, one can go to:

Nuclear Posture Review [Excerpts]

The Prof said:

for example, the VERY DAY kim was sinking a south korean NAVY ship on the parallel...

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The cause of the explosion has not yet been determined. From the Associated Press:

No cause has been determined. South Korean officials have said they will look at all possibilities including that the ship might have been struck by a floating mine or a torpedo from North Korea.

South Korea's intelligence chief Won Sei-Hoon told lawmakers in a closed-door session Tuesday that it was difficult to conclude whether North Korea was involved in the incident, Chung Chin-sup, a lawmaker in the ruling Grand National Party, said after being briefed by Won.

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thanks, i appreciate that

but from the location of the sinking, the history of conflict in the waters there, the confirmation of shooting, previously disputed, prior to the cheonan's blowing up...

the witnesses on baengnyeong who said they heard gunfire for ten minutes after the boat blew up...

it's pretty clear what happened

one would have to be a bit hopeful, shall we say, to think otherwise

but you're right, even the south koreans shy away from stating unequivocally

obama still looks silly in iowa, tho, if you ask me

i mean, while all this real stuff is going down

mexico, iran, afghanistan, israel...

iowa

appearances are very important in politics, no?

Barry likes attention..... this is nothing but grandstanding.

Redress said:

But at least he knows how to use paragraphs to make his writing readable.

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No, he has people do that for him.

Chappy said:

I support President Obama in his re-establishing American leadership in the world by clarifying our previously ambiguous policy regarding “first use” of nuclear weapons.

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I do not think our president should be telling the world what will cause us to use our nukes.He might as well be saying if you do not cross this line we will not severely hurt you.It seems more like some dumbass idea that you are supposed to use equal force against the enemy. This idea that you are supposed to use equal force is a load hippy peace neck ***** retard crap and does not work in warfare, in war fare you are supposed to use overwhelming force against your enemy..

American said:

You don't make your nuke plans public.

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Oh good lord. That is such a stupid statement. Like our plans would have any bearing at all on what another country decides to do in a time of war. What the hell does it matter if our plans are public?

I'm so tired of these cowards.

jamesrage said:

I do not think our president should be telling the world what will cause us to use our nukes.He might as well be saying if you do not cross this line we will not severely hurt you.It seems more like some dumbass idea that you are supposed to use equal force against the enemy. This idea that you are supposed to use equal force is a load hippy peace neck ***** retard crap and does not work in warfare, in war fare you are supposed to use overwhelming force against your enemy..

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He's not limiting his options in the slightest, but you don't care...this is just another good excuse to unload your hatred. Have fun.

Chappy said:

NATO defense plans included first use of nuclear weapons against invading Soviet forces. America has always refused to commit to no first use until today. Barack Obama is once again changing the course of history and we are better for it.

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We're not better off for it and we're not worse off for it. The only reason Obama did this was so people like you would start threads about how great he is. If you think Obama's pronouncement changes our nuclear strategy in any material way, you are just gullible.

Councilman said:

Bio weapons can kill millions or at least 10s of thousands and to tell a potential enemy your plans or intentions and is about as stupid as you can get.

Obama is without any doubt the dumbest dumb ass in the history of the world.

No one unless he is a total (expletive) fool signals that he will allow some devastating attacks on their Nation and not have the most serious response possibly in reserve.

This is absolute proof Obama is either inviting an attack or welcoming one, and he has no concern for this Country or us as citizens what so ever.

Is this idiot out of his (expletive) mind?

He has taken the bluff possibility out of the equation. This is beyond Amateur to the point of being a really dumb ass but he invites an attack.

Even the stupid people who worship this fool should be outraged by this.

What is he up to?

You never ever tell a potential enemy what you might do in response even in a school yard situation with a bully.

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It's just a stupid political move, nothing more. None of our enemies are changing their strategies because of Obama's domestic political BS.

WillRockwell said:

He's not limiting his options in the slightest,

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Apparently you must have read some other article or perhaps have a reading comprehension problem.

Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms - NYTimes.com
It eliminates much of the ambiguity that has deliberately existed in American nuclear policy since the opening days of the cold war. For the first time, the United States is explicitly committing not to use nuclear weapons against nonnuclear states that are in compliance with the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, even if they attacked the United States with biological or chemical weapons or launched a crippling cyberattack.

Those threats, Mr. Obama argued, could be deterred with “a series of graded options,” a combination of old and new conventional weapons. “I’m going to preserve all the tools that are necessary in order to make sure that the American people are safe and secure,” he said in the interview in the Oval Office.

but you don't care...this is just another good excuse to unload your hatred. Have fun.

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I have no hatred for the president.Grant it he is a liberal so the vast majority of things he does or wants to do I will be against. But I will support him on issues I support like more government transparency, cracking down on outsourcing of American jobs, requiring that steel used in federal tax payer funded road projects be American steel and many other issues I can actually agree with Obama on.

jamesrage said:

Apparently you must have read some other article or perhaps have a reading comprehension problem.

Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms - NYTimes.com
It eliminates much of the ambiguity that has deliberately existed in American nuclear policy since the opening days of the cold war. For the first time, the United States is explicitly committing not to use nuclear weapons against nonnuclear states that are in compliance with the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, even if they attacked the United States with biological or chemical weapons or launched a crippling cyberattack.

Those threats, Mr. Obama argued, could be deterred with “a series of graded options,” a combination of old and new conventional weapons. “I’m going to preserve all the tools that are necessary in order to make sure that the American people are safe and secure,” he said in the interview in the Oval Office.



I have no hatred for the president.Grant it he is a liberal so the vast majority of things he does or wants to do I will be against. But I will support him on issues I support like more government transparency, cracking down on outsourcing of American jobs, requiring that steel used in federal tax payer funded road projects be American steel and many other issues I can actually agree with Obama on.

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It's just politics. Obama wants to throw the hippies a bone so he makes some irrelevant policy change that amounts to nothing substantive.

This is the same President who orders predator drone strikes on a daily basis, killing women and children in order to smoke terrorist leaders and operatives; he would have no issue sending a nuke up someone's ass for the right reasons; this policy changes nothing.

Gander said:

It's just politics. Obama wants to throw the hippies a bone so he makes some irrelevant policy change that amounts to nothing substantive.

This is the same President who orders predator drone strikes on a daily basis, killing women and children in order to smoke terrorist leaders and operatives; he would have no issue sending a nuke up someone's ass for the right reasons; this policy changes nothing.

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Regardless of whether or not he means it the enemy could still take that as an incentive to attack.

jamesrage said:

Regardless of whether or not he means it the enemy could still take that as an incentive to attack.

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That seems a bit far-fetched. Which enemy are you talking about?

jamesrage said:

Regardless of whether or not he means it the enemy could still take that as an incentive to attack.

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Oh please, which enemy feels emboldened by Obama's statement, and how is he restrained by anything he said?