Montecresto
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Point being, its been done before, and it will happen again. Everyone will whine and bitch, until it happens again, then we will switch sides, and still whine and bitch.
If you want an example of illegal intervention, look up Ted Kennedy trying to bride the Russians in 1984 to keep Reagan from being elected.
47 traitors, pure and simple.
Unbelievable. At least one of my Republican senators refused to sign that nonsense.
"Obama Derangement Syndrome" doesn't cut it anymore. It has to be something that fits the new levels they've sunk to, perhaps "Obama Psychosis Syndrome." I was content to roll my eyes through the whole Birther and Benghazi idiocy, but I always did so believing they had limits to their awfulness. Now I'm pretty sure they have no such limits at all.
Their skepticism doesn't make them childish. Their relentless substance-free, base rousing theatrics do that.
Principally, the Republicans have no business torpedoing this treaty because no great deeds are forthcoming on their part.
They aren't willing to follow it up with an alternative other than more saber rattling. Rattling sabers didn't stop North Korea from getting the bomb,
and Iran is much more capable. They'll succeed sooner or later if they want to.
Every U.S. boot in the Middle East lets ISIS recruit 20 more farmers from the field.
Its a premature fulfillment of the Caliphate Osama bin Laden hoped to accomplish by baiting America into the Middle East.
I'll also point all that the treaty loses us nothing.
If the Iranians break it, we can pursue alternatives as planned. If they don't break it and we want to pursue those alternatives anyway, the State Department of the sitting president can simply declare that they broke it,
Establishing diplomatic and economic relations with Iran at least boxes their government between a rock in a hard place between pursuing nuclear capability and bringing their people jobs and prosperity.
47 traitors, pure and simple.
Unbelievable. At least one of my Republican senators refused to sign that nonsense.
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If 47 democrat senators did this to Reagan, you'd be screaming and yelling at the top of your lungs and calling for hangings.
If 47 democrat senators did this to Reagan, you'd be screaming and yelling at the top of your lungs and calling for hangings.
Keep in mind, Thrilla has already made it clear this is a hilarious joke to him. I guess a nuclear Iran is "funny" in conservative circles.
If 47 democrat senators did this to Reagan, you'd be screaming and yelling at the top of your lungs and calling for hangings.
Keep in mind, Thrilla has already made it clear this is a hilarious joke to him. I guess a nuclear Iran is "funny" in conservative circles.
nope, that's not my style....and i'm not a Reagan sycophant.
tell me more fairy tales about "traitors" though, it's entertaining .... utter nonsense, but entertaining.
Senior fellows at the Council on Foreign Relations think nuclear balance is a good thing!
Why Iran Should Get the Bomb
Nuclear Balancing Would Mean Stability
Why Iran Should Get the Bomb | Foreign Affairs
he makes a solid argument...though I don't completely share his view on the sanity of the Iranian regime
How would you act if 47 democrat senators decided to do this under a republican president?
a nuclear Iran isn't funny.... watching Obama sycophants freak out is, though.. as well as the whole political theater going on.
it's incredibly entertaining.
*snip*
Republicans don't trust Obama...but they don't trust any Democratic President.
To their credit (kind of) conservatives here know that congress screwed up big, which is why they're trying incessantly to deflect their action by saying, "But...Obama hasn't earned our trust!" as if that had any bearing on scuttling a crucial deal to prevent an unfriendly country from attaining the bomb and thus destabilizing the region even more. Rest assured, Iran will walk out of the negotiations now, they'll get the bomb, and Republicans will own it. The conservatives here know deep down that the Republicans ****ed up royally, and that this is something they never would have supported until Obama became their only reason for living and fighting.
This has gone far beyond "derangement" and has now officially escalated to full blown sickness.
And which legislative duty is this?
stop right there, there's a whole series of immigration orders that run contrary to this statement, he is blocking bills meant to help the Middle class, you heard of the O&C Timber bill? Obama has threatened to veto that several times, he has refused to budge a pipeline that has been "Studied" for over a decade. this guy does not respect congress period.That is usually how agreements are made. Until the hand-shake is done...everything is on the tabe.
Obama has never rejected the leadership of Congress to meet with him and structure a position. Never Have I heard either Boehner or McConnell say they requested to meet with the President on this issue and were denied.
Congress cares so much about this agreement that they are sunning themselves at Spring Break at the moment. Don't you wish they even cared as much as you???
Debt limit is reached March 16th. Who cares. Bashing Obama is fun and Congress is out to lunch.
You mean because of their anti Israel barking?
all things being equal, i'd do exactly what i'm doing now.
( I also know you haven't been reading my posts on the matter, or you wouldn't be taking this road)
I'd laugh at hyperpartisans, throw in facts to stymie the more obtuse and absurd among us... and generally enjoy the entertainment value of it all.
you haven't known me for very long.. ask those who have.. I relish the entertainment of political theater far more than picking sides and grasping onto partisan coattails....it's the only thing that keeps me interested in politics ( not policy, politics)
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