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Obama: Ban Parents from Having Children Counseled Not to be ‘LGBTQ+’

Blemonds said:
Suggested, yet remains unproven. Better to get kids help as early as possible rather than err due to suggestiveness
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Suggests with a healthy amount of evidence.

This "therapy" has been proven a failure, further it has been proven to be detrimental to the mental health of the patient.

Getting kids help is great, should they have a condition they need help with.

Nobody has proven that homosexuality is detrimental to a person's well being.

Fixing things you don't even know to be broken is unethical.

Going against rational science because you don't like something is childish.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Well the evidence suggests that they are and I will post it in this response.

I haven't seen any evidence supporting the idea that we are all just bisexual and we choose this our that. Also in the hundred and fifty years we have been studying it, I don't know if any environmental factors, such as upbringing or experience that is even linked to homosexuality

Genetic and environmental effects on same-sex sexual behavior: a population study of twins in Sweden. - PubMed - NCBI




I don't know that "violent tendencies" are something anybody is born with.

There are conditions people are born with that may or may not cause them to have violent tendencies. Such as schizophrenia and autism, but no we can't convert that. They are born that way, they will die that way. They can be drugged.

I'd say that drugging homosexuals would simply further depress them and exacerbate any suicidal tendencies.

I would say the best thing to do with homosexuals is live and let live, at least experiment with it, because we don't know if it's something innate to homosexuality that causes them to be more depressed, or if it is society placing a stigma on them. I would say the stigma should be eliminated anyway, because to stigmatize somebody with a condition serves no purpose and causes harm and thus is immoral.
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Interesting, you're ready and willing to accept that people are born homosexual but question people who claim they are born violent. That's certainly convenient for your side
 
Blemonds said:
Interesting, you're ready and willing to accept that people are born homosexual
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No, I accept the science that suggests they are.

but question people who claim they are born violent. That's certainly convenient for your side
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Yes. If somebody makes a claim as you did but fail to give evidence to support it, it's only rational to question it.

Yeah it is a bit convenient that you didn't link any studies our even offer a theory that I could research. And the burden of proof is on you.

It's also logical.

But just in case you back up your fallacy with a legitimate study. We need to curtail violence because it harms people. However homosexuality haven't been proven.

So yes in this case logic is convenient. Lucky me.
 
CLAX1911 said:
No, I accept the science that suggests they are.

Yes. If somebody makes a claim as you did but fail to give evidence to support it, it's only rational to question it.

Yeah it is a bit convenient that you didn't link any studies our even offer a theory that I could research. And the burden of proof is on you.

It's also logical.

But just in case you back up your fallacy with a legitimate study. We need to curtail violence because it harms people. However homosexuality haven't been proven.

So yes in this case logic is convenient. Lucky me.
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Suggestions are not science, they are, well, suggestions. Better to address the anomalies as early as possible.
 
Blemonds said:
Suggestions are not science, they are, well, suggestions.
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True, luckily for me I didn't make any suggestion.

I recall citing a theory and when you asked me to prove that theory, I posted the science that supports it.

You saying that theory isn't true is of no consequence, evidence collected supports it. It's more likely your beliefs are simply wrong.

You denying the science behind the theory only works to further discredit you.

Better to address the anomalies as early as possible.
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Yes I agree. The quicker people address the science and let go of emotional hysteria regarding anomolies the quicker they no longer are a problem.
 
CLAX1911 said:
True, luckily for me I didn't make any suggestion.

I recall citing a theory and when you asked me to prove that theory, I posted the science that supports it.

You saying that theory isn't true is of no consequence, evidence collected supports it. It's more likely your beliefs are simply wrong.

You denying the science behind the theory only works to further discredit you.

Yes I agree. The quicker people address the science and let go of emotional hysteria regarding anomolies the quicker they no longer are a problem.
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It remains that science has not demonstrated that homosexuals are born that that. Thus the anomaly which needs to be addressed. The sooner the better for the child
 
Blemonds said:
It remains that science has not demonstrated that homosexuals are born that that. Thus the anomaly which needs to be addressed. The sooner the better for the child
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Addressed in what way?
 
Blemonds said:
It remains that science has not demonstrated that homosexuals are born that that.
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Yes it does demonstrate just that.

If you are doubting it because it is a theory, gravity is a theory that hasn't been proven.

Denial of Science is ignorance.
Thus the anomaly which needs to be addressed. The sooner the better for the child
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Yes I agree. The quicker people address the science and let go of emotional hysteria regarding anomolies the quicker they no longer are a problem.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Yes it does demonstrate just that.

If you are doubting it because it is a theory, gravity is a theory that hasn't been proven.

Denial of Science is ignorance.

Yes I agree. The quicker people address the science and let go of emotional hysteria regarding anomolies the quicker they no longer are a problem.
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It's not even a theory, it's a hypothesis which has not been supported by science
 
Blemonds said:
Therapy
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It's isn't therapy, it's deranged.

People are born gay, as science suggests. Conversion therapy is based on a unreasonable assumption that it can be changed.

To ignore science is the hight of ignorance. I'm sorry it's not the way you want it to be but people should go with science and not emotional hysteria that is unfounded.
 
CLAX1911 said:
It's isn't therapy, it's deranged.

People are born gay, as science suggests. Conversion therapy is based on a unreasonable assumption that it can be changed.

To ignore science is the hight of ignorance. I'm sorry it's not the way you want it to be but people should go with science and not emotional hysteria that is unfounded.
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People choose to be homosexual, as we all really know
 
Kobie said:
:lamo
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CLAX1911 said:
You can deny science if you want to. It's a good thing that most folks aren't so dead set in their incorrectness.
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There is no science. Only suggestions
 
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