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Obama’s Strange Love Affair with the Muslim Brotherhood

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By Roger L Simon
8/19/2013

It’s hard to fathom how or why our administration ever thought the Muslim Brotherhood saw democracy as other than a means to an end — and a particularly repellent one at that — in the first place.

It’s not as if the MB is subtle. They have proclaimed who they are since their founding by Hasan al Banna in 1928 and have not wavered in any significant way since in their global jihadist goals. They have also been unstinting in their massive misogyny, homophobia and rigid support of Shariah law über alles (quite literally über alles, since the Brotherhood were — virtually the last still unrepentant — allies of Hitler in WWII).

You know, liberal stuff.

Democracy, as their kissing cousin Turkey’s Erdogan so blithely explained, is “like a streetcar. When you come to your stop, you get off.” Or, as one of the Brotherhood’s own internal documents put it in that oh-so-distant year of 2007, they (the MB) are dedicated to “eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house.”

That’s from the Muslim Brotherhood’s “General Strategic Goal” for North America. The “miserable house” of Western civilization of course includes all the tenets of classical liberalism and most of those laterally paid lip service by today’s soi-disant “liberals” (rights of women, rights of homosexuals, freedom of expression, ad tedium, ad hypocrisia).

And yet those same liberals — not to mention the increasingly addle-brained John McCain who seemingly can’t tell an al-Qaeda operative from Paul Revere — are suddenly pounding Saharan sand in outrage at the extreme treatment of the Brotherhood at the hands of the mean Egyptian military.


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Will Obama's bias for the Muslim Brotherhood interfere with the quelling of the MB insurgency in Egypt.
 

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The thing is, even if they have different beliefs than us, it doesn't mean they deserve to be persecuted for those beliefs, for that would be going against the very liberal ideas that the United States upholds. By letting someone kill these people, they have to do nothing to break our "tenants of classic liberalism", becuase we will be doing it ourselves.
 

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By Roger L Simon
8/19/2013

It’s hard to fathom how or why our administration ever thought the Muslim Brotherhood saw democracy as other than a means to an end — and a particularly repellent one at that — in the first place.
so how exactly is it President Obama's fault that the MB won an actual free election? while "President Obama something something Muslim Brotherhood" is all the proof you need to hold him accountable, try to explain it to a sentient being.

It’s not as if the MB is subtle. They have proclaimed who they are since their founding by Hasan al Banna in 1928 and have not wavered in any significant way since in their global jihadist goals. They have also been unstinting in their massive misogyny, homophobia and rigid support of Shariah law über alles (quite literally über alles, since the Brotherhood were — virtually the last still unrepentant — allies of Hitler in WWII).
wow, replace "MB" with "TP", " al Banna" with whoever you give credit to for creating the TP, replace " Shariah" with "bible" and you've perfectly described the Tea Party. (notice I didnt have to come up with a substitute for "hitler")
 

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Senator: Obama Administration Secretly Suspended Military Aid to Egypt​

by Josh Rogin
Aug 19, 2013


The White House has quietly placed military aid to Egypt on hold, despite not saying publicly whether the Egyptian military takeover was a coup, Josh Rogin reports exclusively.

The U.S. government has decided privately to act as if the military takeover of Egypt was a coup, temporarily suspending most forms of military aid, despite deciding not to announce publicly a coup determination one way or the other, according to a leading U.S. senator.

US Egypt Aid Dilemma​


In the latest example of its poorly understood Egypt policy, the Obama administration has decided to temporarily suspend the disbursement of most direct military aid, the delivery of weapons to the Egyptian military, and some forms of economic aid to the Egyptian government while it conducts a broad review of the relationship. The administration won’t publicly acknowledge all aspects of the aid suspension and maintains its rhetorical line that no official coup determination has been made, but behind the scenes, extensive measures to treat the military takeover of Egypt last month as a coup are being implemented on a temporary basis.

The office of Sen. Patrick (Leaky) Leahy (D-VT), the head of the appropriations state and foreign-operations subcommittee, told The Daily Beast on Monday that military aid to Egypt has been temporarily cut off.

Leahy’s “understanding is that aid to the Egyptian military has been halted, as required by law,” said David Carle, a spokesman for Leahy.

The administration’s public message is that $585 million of promised aid to the Egyptian military in fiscal 2013 is not officially on hold, as technically it is not due until September 30, the end of the fiscal year, and no final decisions have been made.

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Hmm..., Keeping information down low, and showing support for the Muslim Brotherhood. Only problem is that Saudi Arabia just sweetened the Military's pot by $5 Billion.
 

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By Roger L Simon
8/19/2013

It’s hard to fathom how or why our administration ever thought the Muslim Brotherhood saw democracy as other than a means to an end — and a particularly repellent one at that — in the first place.

It’s not as if the MB is subtle. They have proclaimed who they are since their founding by Hasan al Banna in 1928 and have not wavered in any significant way since in their global jihadist goals. They have also been unstinting in their massive misogyny, homophobia and rigid support of Shariah law über alles (quite literally über alles, since the Brotherhood were — virtually the last still unrepentant — allies of Hitler in WWII).

You know, liberal stuff.

Democracy, as their kissing cousin Turkey’s Erdogan so blithely explained, is “like a streetcar. When you come to your stop, you get off.” Or, as one of the Brotherhood’s own internal documents put it in that oh-so-distant year of 2007, they (the MB) are dedicated to “eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house.”

That’s from the Muslim Brotherhood’s “General Strategic Goal” for North America. The “miserable house” of Western civilization of course includes all the tenets of classical liberalism and most of those laterally paid lip service by today’s soi-disant “liberals” (rights of women, rights of homosexuals, freedom of expression, ad tedium, ad hypocrisia).

And yet those same liberals — not to mention the increasingly addle-brained John McCain who seemingly can’t tell an al-Qaeda operative from Paul Revere — are suddenly pounding Saharan sand in outrage at the extreme treatment of the Brotherhood at the hands of the mean Egyptian military.


(Excerpt)

Read more:
Roger L. Simon » Obama’s Strange Love Affair with the Muslim Brotherhood

Will Obama's bias for the Muslim Brotherhood interfere with the quelling of the MB insurgency in Egypt.
You seem to be obsessed with Obama; constantly making threads about him.
Do you have a secret man crush on him? I think you may.
 

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[Consistency gentlemen, we need some consistency.

Choose a side.
The hard lined right HAS been consistant. Whatever Obama is for they are against. Obama could say he hates Al-Qaeda and the hard lined right would find a reason to support Al-Qaeda. If Obama said for everyone to breathe, the hard lined right would try and sufficate themselves out of spite.

I won't go so far as to say racism is the key factor, but there is a seething hatred for Obama from some of the hard lined righties. Obama is a lousy president, but it's hilarious watching the things some of the hard-lined righties pick for a fight. Wehrwolfen's threads are a good example of the seething and foaming hatred for Obama.
 

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Reading through your posts here i am unsure how you come to the conclusion Obama supports the brotherhood in any way.

He has basically tried to pretend a military coup wasn't happening for 3 weeks. something which had it been anywhere else would have caused an instant reaction. He has watched without almost no obstruction to the Egyptian military in the removal of the MB. If the public and certain individuals hadn't evoked so much noise i am pretty sure that aid wouldn't have been suspended.

If anything Obama is trying to do all he can to allow the military to remove the brotherhood, he couldn't oppose a free an open election, but he can watch as the military perform a coup-de-tat.
 

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talk about flip flopping lol.

- Criticized for not calling it a Coup and not supporting the ousted MB because they were elected.

- Criticized for asking egypts military to include the MB in the reforming of the government because the MB are terrorists.

- Criticized for not cutting off aid to egypts military.

- Criticized for objecting to the Egyptian military's inhumane treatment of MB members, because MB members are .... subhuman?

Unhappy republicans seem to just be a part of life. Why waste effort trying to make them happy when it has thus far proved impossible. They just seem to get more unhappy when you do what they tell you to.
 

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You seem to be obsessed with Obama; constantly making threads about him.
Do you have a secret man crush on him? I think you may.
Are you projecting your feelings on others?
 

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The hard lined right HAS been consistant. Whatever Obama is for they are against. Obama could say he hates Al-Qaeda and the hard lined right would find a reason to support Al-Qaeda. If Obama said for everyone to breathe, the hard lined right would try and sufficate themselves out of spite.

I won't go so far as to say racism is the key factor, but there is a seething hatred for Obama from some of the hard lined righties. Obama is a lousy president, but it's hilarious watching the things some of the hard-lined righties pick for a fight. Wehrwolfen's threads are a good example of the seething and foaming hatred for Obama.
In this specific case, yes, it bothers me that the purported position contradicts what would be the traditional philosophy and is based instead on sheer obstinacy. It makes you look the fool to argue against your own base position. The GOP (and me by my own drummer) should be thrilled to see the secular military in charge in Egypt rather than a group much more likely to be problematic and support external terrorism.

Thus my call for consistency.
 
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