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NYC Covidiots continue to pack subways.

apdst said:
Are you saying it might take more than a couple of buses? Ok, whatever it takes. Right?
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There are hundreds of thousands of "essential" workers who are not affiliated with medical facilities. I don't think you comprehend.
 
Metric Mouse said:
So no suggestions either? This is the absolute best thing to do for these poor people? Seems awful.
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Sometimes you just have to do the best you can with what you have. Instead of throwing up your hands lamenting about what you don't have. Just as all those brave and dedicated New York medical workers have been doing for weeks now in the face of shortages of PPE and life supporting equipment and facilities. Maybe things would be better than what they are now if we had some actual federal government leadership. But we don't have that either. So apparently we will have little choice but to soldier on without any.
 
TheDoctorWasIn said:
You're really not understanding the problem.

Reducing the number of trains is what has caused this - not a solution to it.
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You just said that the large size was the problem... and now the problem is the smaller number of trains?
 
Bodhisattva said:
Yes. No human being could hit a button on a control panel shutting down a subway line, or reducing the number of cars in the subway system... It literally defies belief that this could ever happen... you have already "proven" that human beings can not close a subway tunnel entrance... I mean, my ideas sound like that of a mad man!! :lol:
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I have doubts about whether you would have even a tiny modicum of that kind of competence.
 
You guys are all missing the most important point.

The people taking the subway are almost all "essential workers". The problem is not that inessential workers are crowding the system - it's that there aren't enough trains running to allow essential workers enough space to properly social distance themselves.

New York isn't like Michigan - there are no crowds of idiots protesting the stay-at-home orders.
 
JMR said:
There are hundreds of thousands of "essential" workers who are not affiliated with medical facilities. I don't think you comprehend.
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I'm referring to medical personel.
 
Bodhisattva said:
That is why my solution involved using cops and reducing the size of the system... you seem like a 'can't do' kind of person. You just keep saying, "nuh-uh"



A gate in front of a subway entrance monitored by some guards ... IMPOSSIBLE!
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How many of the riders do you imagine are Non Essential Workers?
 
Bodhisattva said:
There is no way that a human being can come up with a way to close the entrance to a hole in the ground?

There is no way that a the subway system can not have its method of operation altered?

You can not be freaking serious...
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In New York City? You probably have to go through a dozen different boards, fight several dozen community boards, mix in some unions, the local grievance makers, toss in a few irate state officials and irate city councilman, and maybe approval will be given in 2022.
This is a city after all that once took over five years to fix an ice rink-- a hole in the ground with some frozen water inside.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Yes. No human being could hit a button on a control panel shutting down a subway line, or reducing the number of cars in the subway system... It literally defies belief that this could ever happen... you have already "proven" that human beings can not close a subway tunnel entrance... I mean, my ideas sound like that of a mad man!! :lol:
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TheDoctorWasIn said:
You're really not understanding the problem.

Reducing the number of trains is what has caused this - not a solution to it.
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Bodhisattva said:
You just said that the large size was the problem... and now the problem is the smaller number of trains?
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TheDoctorWasIn said:
No, the large size is what makes your "solution" useless - it's not "the problem".
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Right, the large size is the problem to a solution yet you have not said why, ANY, of my solution ideas would not work.

Just... too big, too small (I like that LOL), too many entrances, etc.

Just start with this one... why can entrances not be closed down? You said 2-10 entrances for one platform. Why can that not be reduced to one or two?
 
apdst said:
I'm referring to medical personel.
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Never be able to police. What are going to do? Ask for job ID? There is no end to people who can make a fake ID.
 
Atomic Kid said:
I have doubts about whether you would have even a tiny modicum of that kind of competence.
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Yeah... dude, you are boring as hell and your posts are dumb as ****. As usual.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Right, the large size is the problem to a solution yet you have not said why, ANY, of my solution ideas would not work.

Just... too big, too small (I like that LOL), too many entrances, etc.

Just start with this one... why can entrances not be closed down? You said 2-10 entrances for one platform. Why can that not be reduced to one or two?
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Let me try to explain this as slowly as possible.

Your solution does not address the problem at all, and would take hundreds of millions of dollars and thousands of workers to implement - both of which (money and workers) are in very short supply in NYC at the moment.

In other words, your solution betrays a lack of understanding.
 
TheDoctorWasIn said:
You guys are all missing the most important point.

The people taking the subway are almost all "essential workers". The problem is not that inessential workers are crowding the system - it's that there aren't enough trains running to allow essential workers enough space to properly social distance themselves.

New York isn't like Michigan - there are no crowds of idiots protesting the stay-at-home orders.
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Now you tell us... no, we were not missing the point... you did not tell us the point. If all the people riding the subway now are basically, or are, essential, and the system is not working then that is a HUGE VARIABLE that you did not state WAS THE PROBLEM. :roll:
 
Bodhisattva said:
Now you tell us... no, we were not missing the point... you did not tell us the point. If all the people riding the subway now are basically, or are, essential, and the system is not working then that is a HUGE VARIABLE that you did not state WAS THE PROBLEM. :roll:
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If you had bothered to read the OP, you would have known.
 
TheDoctorWasIn said:
Let me try to explain this as slowly as possible.

Your solution does not address the problem at all, and would take hundreds of millions of dollars and thousands of workers to implement - both of which (money and workers) are in very short supply in NYC at the moment.

In other words, your solution betrays a lack of understanding.
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It might take some money and it might save some money... unless you are now going to tell me you are a subway administrator, or something equally important that you omitted like you did the info I addressed in post #116. ...and I addressed the unemployed that could do the job already... that you have not addressed in return.
 
Bodhisattva said:
It might take some money and it might save some money... unless you are now going to tell me you are a subway administrator, or something equally important that you omitted like you did the info I addressed in post #116. ...and I addressed the unemployed that could do the job already... that you have not addressed in return.
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How could it possibly save money?
 
trixare4kids said:
Exactly. So where's the mayor on this?
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Read the thread.

1. Theres no way to enforce an "essential workers only" policy.

2. Even if there was, it doesn't address the problem.

New York isn't like Michigan - there are no hoards of idiots going out to play and demanding the city be re-opened. New Yorkers, by and large, are following the stay-at-home order.
 
TheDoctorWasIn said:
Read the thread.

1. Theres no way to enforce an "essential workers only" policy.

2. Even if there was, it doesn't address the problem.

New York isn't like Michigan - there are no hoards of idiots going out to play and demanding the city be re-opened. New Yorkers, by and large, are following the stay-at-home order.
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I've read the thread.
 
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