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Nukes: When America wanted a Soviet invasion of Japan


I notice you didn't mention the Soviet goals.
 

There is no secretive group secretly running the show behind the scenes bud. You keep claiming that “we don’t really know who makes the decisions” but we do know. The decision making of presidents and the United States government as a whole in every war, with both the Second World War and the Civil War, has been throughly covered in hundreds of books and scholarly articles.

You keep clinging to your deluded conspiracy theories bud, the rest of us will live in the real world. Chuckle.

The US government is not a Saturday morning cartoon villain. Nobody in the US government wanders thinking about “world domination”. It was an open question in 1945 whether the US would even meaningfully commit to the UN at all.

In short.....you really don’t have a clue, and it’s blatantly obvious.
 
Tigerace117 said:
It shows.

Almost laughably so, yes.
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Yet another one of your cheap shots. You cannot deny my commentary; my fair and direct questions to you have remained unanswered. You have to misrepresent what I wrote and add hyperbole. You're like a Trump supporter with regard to the subject of militarism.

You rely on narrow interpretations that you call "history." I don't argue about history, I argue about ethical issues.

Why do you have a hard-on for US militarism? Career military? Your dad was a Marine Corpse hardass? What's your deal?
 

I’ve “denied your commentary” on numerous occasions, because none of it has any value. It doesn’t. It’s just outright lies, false equivalences, lazy conspiracy theories and general nonesense. Simply put, you don’t know what you are talking about, and I’m not obligated to pretend that you do.

Your brand of “ethics” are the most absurd I’ve seen, but that’s another story.

Once again, you don’t have the slightest clue what you are talking about, and it shows.
 
Antiwar said:
I stopped reading after your straw man argument.
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You are the one who babbled about a secretive group “pulling the strings” buddy. You can’t just cry “strawman” when your argument has been exposed.
 
Tigerace117 said:
You are the one who babbled about a secretive group “pulling the strings” buddy. You can’t just cry “strawman” when your argument has been exposed.
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You're a tenacious Trump supporter.
 
Antiwar said:
I'm not into history.

Is my comment incorrect?
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You are in the history section if it doesn't interest you then why post?
 
Tigerace117 said:


So in other words you can’t defend your silly conspiracy theories. Figured as much.
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I defended my comment, not the straw man you've created and cling to because you can't answer my questions nor beat my principles.
 
Quag said:
You are in the history section if it doesn't interest you then why post?
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The title mentioned nuclear weapons and the original post is interesting.

My answer is post #17. What do you think?
 
Antiwar said:
I defended my comment, not the straw man you've created and cling to because you can't answer my questions nor beat my principles.
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No, you didn’t. You went “how do you know there’s not a secretive cabal running the US government plotting world domination?”

Then I pointed out how absurd your conspiracy theory is, and you threw a tantrum.

Your “questions” are bad jokes; your “principles” are hypocritical at best.
 
Antiwar said:
The title mentioned nuclear weapons and the original post is interesting.

My answer is post #17. What do you think?
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I think you should probably learn some history and stop visiting CT sites
 
If my questions are bad, then you should be able to easily show that. You choose to debate like a rabid Trump supporter on this issue.
 
Quag said:
I think you should probably learn some history and stop visiting CT sites
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Do you have a substantive critique?
 
Antiwar said:
If my questions are bad, then you should be able to easily show that. You choose to debate like a rabid Trump supporter on this issue.
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I already did....repeatedly. There is no “secret cabal” pulling the strings, and the US did not(and does not) care about “global domination“.
 
Tigerace117 said:
I already did....repeatedly. There is no “secret cabal” pulling the strings, and the US did not(and does not) care about “global domination“.
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Unanswered questions from #21:
Does the general public know what goes on behind closed doors? Are there not levels of secrecy? Do wealthy and powerful people and corporations not heavily influence American politics?

Is the US government not the lone superpower? Please note that I specifically chose "dominance" not "domination."
 

All already addressed. The general public knows full well who made the decision during the Second World War, just as they did during the Civil War and every other conflict. Claiming that a secretive cabal runs the country because the government doesn’t tell the public every single damn thing and because “powerful people” exist is silly.

Claiming that the US government knew that it would become the “lone superpower“ sixty plus years later, or that that idea motivated them in any way, shape or form, is even sillier.
 
Antiwar said:
Do you have a substantive critique?
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Do you have anything substantive to add to this thread or just inane CT nonsense?
 
Tigerace117 said:
[Straw]
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Unanswered questions from #21:
Does the general public know what goes on behind closed doors? Are there not levels of secrecy? Do wealthy and powerful people and corporations not heavily influence American politics?

Is the US government not the lone superpower? Please note that I specifically chose "dominance" not "domination."
 
Quag said:
Do you have anything substantive to add to this thread or just inane CT nonsense?
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Unanswered questions from #21:
Does the general public know what goes on behind closed doors? Are there not levels of secrecy? Do wealthy and powerful people and corporations not heavily influence American politics?

Is the US government not the lone superpower? Please note that I specifically chose "dominance" not "domination."
 
Antiwar said:
Straw.
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Nope, I directly addressed the “questions” you posted.....again. You not liking the fact that I pointed out how laughable absurd they are isn’t a “strawman”.
 


All already addressed. The general public knows full well who made the decision during the Second World War, just as they did during the Civil War and every other conflict. Claiming that a secretive cabal runs the country because the government doesn’t tell the public every single damn thing and because “powerful people” exist is silly.

Claiming that the US government knew that it would become the “lone superpower“ sixty plus years later, or that that idea motivated them in any way, shape or form, is even sillier.
 
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