Nugent Once Again Shows Us What the Right Wing is All About[W:270]

[Buck Ewer]

Re: Nugent Once Again Shows Us What the Right Wing is All About

Ted sure is good at upsetting the liberals. :lol: I think he says these things on purpose just to bother them.

Do you believe that Ted Nugent is a racist, or that he has ever expressed racist sentiments?

 

[Buck Ewer]

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if you watch the interview, the context was rather political and in the middle of a rant about communists

Do you believe that Ted Nugent is a racist, or that he has ever expressed racist sentiments?

 

[ChrisL]

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Do you believe that Ted Nugent is a racist, or that he has ever expressed racist sentiments?

Sure, he does all the time. He also makes fun of President Obama.

 

[Buck Ewer]

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..and I'm not defending anyone. I'm defending free speech. The quote was still not racist. Only racist because you choose to attach racist connotation to it, and get up on your little soapbox and whine about it.

The referenced quote aside ...Do you believe that Ted Nugent is a racist, or that he has ever expressed racist sentiments?

 

[Buck Ewer]

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Sure, he does all the time. He also makes fun of President Obama.

Thank you for your candor.

 

[TurtleDude]

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The referenced quote aside ...Do you believe that Ted Nugent is a racist, or that he has ever expressed racist sentiments?

I think he says stuff to stir up the weak minded Obama slurping lefties. He's a shock jock just like Coulter, Stern, and other media whores.

 

[ChrisL]

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I think he says stuff to stir up the weak minded Obama slurping lefties. He's a shock jock just like Coulter, Stern, and other media whores.

I think so too. He says these things on purpose, obviously.

 

[Buck Ewer]

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I think he says stuff to stir up the weak minded Obama slurping lefties. He's a shock jock just like Coulter, Stern, and other media whores.

That didn't answer my question:
Do you believe that Ted Nugent is a racist, or that he has ever expressed racist sentiments? Do you believe that the "stuff " he says is racist?

 

[TurtleDude]

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That didn't answer my question:
Do you believe that Ted Nugent is a racist, or that he has ever expressed racist sentiments? Do you believe that the "stuff " he says is racist?

I couldn't care less. I just am amused watching the frenzy he whips up in the obama faithful

 

[Dr. Chuckles]

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Do you believe that Ted Nugent is a racist, or that he has ever expressed racist sentiments?

It's a matter that is irrelevant to the point under discussion and a question that merely highlights your ignorance of simple logic:

Fallacy: Genetic Fallacy

 

[Buck Ewer]

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It's a matter that is irrelevant to the point under discussion and a question that merely highlights your ignorance of simple logic:

Fallacy: Genetic Fallacy

Once again you have, not very creatively, sidestepped the question at hand.
Thank you for your transparent refusal to address the main point of this thread.
Here is some logic for you;
Nugent has often times in the past made racist statements in general and about the President in particular.
In his recent rant it is highly likely that statements Nugent made, that many people interpret to be racist in nature, indeed are.
The fallacy here is that, this one time a well known racist may have simply been using words easily interpreted to be racist in nature and intent, but were not.
You are not fooling anyone here Dr. Chuckles.
Thank you for playing.

 

[Buck Ewer]

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I couldn't care less. I just am amused watching the frenzy he whips up in the obama faithful

I did not ask if you cared if he was racist I asked if you believed he is.
Your inability to directly answer the question is quite telling.
Thank you for playing.

 

[Velvet Elvis]

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The referenced quote aside ...Do you believe that Ted Nugent is a racist

No. Not at all.

or that he has ever expressed racist sentiments?

I believe that every single human being on this planet has had racist sentiments. Whether that be openly and emphatically, or subtly by crossing a street when walking, after noticing a group of "other people" up ahead. Every single human being. Now, how those people deal with those sentiments is what defines us.

Do I truly think that Ted Nugent thinks that humans of lighter skin shade are "superior" over humans of darker shade? No. Skin color is not what defines us. Culture and attitude does. The guy has had a big mouth since he first took the stage in the early 70's. I'm not surprised that he understands how to rile liberals up with his rhetoric, thus keeping himself in the spotlight. You thinking he is a racist, is just as shallow as people in the 50's thinking Elvis was "evil," or that my generation was going to hell for listening to records from Slayer or Megadeth.

I have every single Slayer record and know many songs' lyrics by heart. Yet, I can say with a clean conscience that I've never once worshiped Satan, drank goat's blood, or sacrificed babies. Do you think I'm a devil worshiper just because I publicly say I know the words to "Reign in Blood?"

 

[Grand Mal]

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That sounds more like he dislikes the communist and not the color.

Are you saying Obama is a communist?

 

[Grand Mal]

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I think he says stuff to stir up the weak minded Obama slurping lefties. He's a shock jock just like Coulter, Stern, and other media whores.

I think he's an idiot. I think he's been staggering along a line for awhile and just fell over on the wrong side of it. "Subhuman mongrel"? Really? This is the President of the United States he's talking about. He's no 'shock jock', he's a mediocre, over-the-hill, had-his-fifteen-minutes attention whore who's about to lose whatever was left of his audience. Well, the sentient ones, anyway.

 

[Grand Mal]

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I think so too. He says these things on purpose, obviously.

Then he's not an accidental idiot, is he.

 

[Buck Ewer]

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No. Not at all.


I believe that every single human being on this planet has had racist sentiments. Whether that be openly and emphatically, or subtly by crossing a street when walking, after noticing a group of "other people" up ahead. Every single human being. Now, how those people deal with those sentiments is what defines us.

Do I truly think that Ted Nugent thinks that humans of lighter skin shade are "superior" over humans of darker shade? No. Skin color is not what defines us. Culture and attitude does. The guy has had a big mouth since he first took the stage in the early 70's. I'm not surprised that he understands how to rile liberals up with his rhetoric, thus keeping himself in the spotlight. You thinking he is a racist, is just as shallow as people in the 50's thinking Elvis was "evil," or that my generation was going to hell for listening to records from Slayer or Megadeth.

I have every single Slayer record and know many songs' lyrics by heart. Yet, I can say with a clean conscience that I've never once worshiped Satan, drank goat's blood, or sacrificed babies. Do you think I'm a devil worshiper just because I publicly say I know the words to "Reign in Blood?"

Your belief that "every single human being on this planet has had racist sentiments" is also quite telling.
Your musical tastes do not imply any religious preferences and I would never infer from them that you worship anything or any one. Nor do I believe that Elvis was evil... But when a man consistently makes racist public statements and rants, I have no choice left to me, other than to take him at his word, and believe that his choice of slurs are likely meant sincerely.
The general consensus among Nugent's defenders seems to be that he just says these racist things to " rile up libruls" who support the president and that he really doesn't mean it.
Sorry I just can't buy it. I take him to mean what he says and that there is nothing accidental, incidental or pretended in his choice of words.

 

[Dr. Chuckles]

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Once again you have, not very creatively, sidestepped the question at hand.

lol, I'm sorry that you can't understand why your question is irrelevant, but being that I was nice enough to provide you with the resources to address your ignorance on the topic I would expect you to be more grateful

 

[Dr. Chuckles]

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Are you saying Obama is a communist?

The Nuge surely thinks he is one and doesn't seem to like it

 

[Excon]

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The general consensus among Nugent's defenders seems to be that he just says these racist things to " rile up libruls" who support the president and that he really doesn't mean it.

More nonsense showing you have no clue.
I believe the general consensus is that his statements are not racist.

 

[Buck Ewer]

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lol, I'm sorry that you can't understand why your question is irrelevant, but being that I was nice enough to provide you with the resources to address your ignorance on the topic I would expect you to be more grateful

lol, I'm sorry that you can't understand why your question is irrelevant, but being that I was nice enough to provide you with resources to address your ignorance on the topic I would expect you to be more grateful

The question is relevant ...The thrust of this thread is that Ted Nugent is an established part of the republicon party and that much of what he says is racist in nature Thus revealing that the GOP has a lot to do with courting the votes of racists. Not a new concept or goal for the GOP. See "southern strategy"...
Now by dismissing his racism as "irrelevant" you merely demonstrate that you are afraid to even give your opinion because you would not likely be able to defend it.
The only thing that is truly irrelevant here is this "genetic Fallacy" link that you keep regurgitating. It has nothing to do with Nugent, his racism or racism within the repulicon party.

 

[Buck Ewer]

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More nonsense showing you have no clue.
I believe the general consensus is that his statements are not racist.

Oh snap! It seems that Excon has missed it again. I said that the consensus among Nugent defenders is that he did not mean anything racist.
Clearly the general consensus across the board is that Nugent is a flaming fruitcake.

 

[Dr. Chuckles]

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The question is relevant ...The thrust of this thread is that Ted Nugent is an established part of the republicon party and that much of what he says is racist in nature Thus revealing that the GOP has a lot to do with courting the votes of racists.

1) actually the thread started out discussing specific statements and the accusation they were racist

2) While there is unfortunately lots of racism in conservative politics and the GOP, you're relying on guilt by association

3) both parties court racist groups and individuals. As I stated earlier, if they can benefit a side politically, their ignorance and stupidity will be excused and tolerated. That's just politics

Now by dismissing his racism as "irrelevant" you merely demonstrate that you are afraid to even give your opinion because you would not likely be able to defend it.

1) You need to pay better attention: I dismissed your question as irrelevant.

2) I have defended my position, and given the fact your only response has been to accuse me of racism and going off on various illogical tirades, I would say I am doing quite a competent job at it

The only thing that is truly irrelevant here is this "genetic Fallacy" link that you keep regurgitating. It has nothing to do with Nugent, his racism or racism within the repulicon party.

you not understanding a very simple concept does not make it irrelevant






Not a new concept or goal for the GOP. See "southern strategy"...
Now by dismissing his racism as "irrelevant" you merely demonstrate that you are afraid to even give your opinion because you would not likely be able to defend it.
The only thing that is truly irrelevant here is this "genetic Fallacy" link that you keep regurgitating. It has nothing to do with Nugent, his racism or racism within the repulicon party.[/QUOTE]

 

[joG]

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Are you saying Obama is a communist?

I was only interpreting scripture. But if you ask me straight, like that? Personally I doubt he is that honest.

 

[Excon]

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Oh snap! It seems that Excon has missed it again. I said that the consensus among Nugent defenders is that he did not mean anything racist.
Clearly the general consensus across the board is that Nugent is a flaming fruitcake.

Oh snap. More dishonesty.
What you said is what I quoted, and that which I responded to.

Let's quote it again to show your dishonesty.
And it is either dishonesty or you just don't know what you have said.

The general consensus among Nugent's defenders seems to be that he just says these racist things to " rile up libruls" who support the president and that he really doesn't mean it.

Hence my comment of: I believe the general consensus is that his statements are not racist.

Which is vastly different than saying they are racist.
Sorry you do not know the difference.