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So gun comapnies that donate to the NRA are considered members? I am a little confused about this. The NRA used to be about it members and gun safty. Now it more of a mouth pieace for gun compnaies. Saying the NRA represents dues paying member to me is a little of a stretch. So where exactly does that 250 million a year go. Bottom line the NRA had a chance to do something big yesterday instead, they want to limit free speech and blame video games and movies. Now if guns dont kill people niether do video games or movies. Which is a stupid comaprison anyway. I was actually waiting on that idiot to start saying we need god back in school. God holding and assult weapon with an NRA logo in the bottom right hand corner. I do not think it a good idea to make schools look like prisons. They whole speech was stupid and made the NRA look like a bunch of asshats. We need real answers not a mad man pounding the desk. The NRA failed yesterday it failed its members and America!
:roll: Typical. We shouldn't protect our children from gunmen because I Hate Bush.
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Like all government projects, education has grown a morbidly obese bureaucracy.
The anti-gunners probably don't mind the existence of these games, probably play them in their basements.
How many times do we have to repeat this?
There was an armed guard at Columbine.
Nancy Lanza was pretty well armed as well. How'd that work out for her.
The over-whelming majority of parents would never support that at elementary schools. NEVER. (in fact any parent who would support that should get a visit from child services IMO)
Patrols with trained police officers, fine. But those officers' time would be better spent auditing and updating lists of people who are never allowed to own a weapon. Every police department should have an anonymous tip line for people to call in their concerns about gun owners in the community who may have flew under the radar. The police can check public records for domestic abuse, and military records for dishonorable discharge or PTSD.
Will these armed principles and janitors be wearing Kevlar vests? Because all the shooters do.
Do you guys think these things through?
Actually, I thought your post to be pretty stupid myself. Now how about adding something to the debate ... or is that a "Conservative" thing ?
I don't see that happening. You get credit for being an optimist though.
And there are still costs. Mental health exams. Training. Background checks. Equipment. Etc.
Of course you've left out daycare centers, malls, movie theaters, restaurants, fast food joints. In short, any place where people gather.
Sadly the NRA, which used to be a decent organization at one time, is now devoted to protecting the rights of survivalists and people desiring to purchase cop-killer bullets. If they were't so dangerous they'd be a joke.
The NRA's message of a national database for the "mentally ill" is exploiting paranoia in order to divert the issue from gun control to eugenics. In so doing, they have traded potentially one negative platform for an evil platform.
If the NRA wants to pick this fight, I for one will oppose them.
Could you imagine what would happen if the NRA spent just half of the resources they spend on defending everybody's right to carry any weapon anywhere to combating and treating mental illness?
Cost ? I think its worth the investment.
I agree with you that the NRA has gone off into the extreme from where they were once but I think they got this one right. The difference from malls and restaurants is there is a higher percentage of adults than at schools.
Schools are where you might have 20-30 kids per adult. That is a high number of very vulnerable people. With higher number of adults there may more of a chance of some adults taking the charge against an assailant or leading others to safety. Having a safety officer is a set of eyes and ears to not only protect against an armed assailant he may also be a deterrent to a kidnapping of a child. And am not so delusional to think one safety guard can do it all but makes a good effort and may make some moron think twice.
I give credit to the NRA for this but not an enamored with the number of men in their 50's who never served in the military who now feel with a gun they are a Rambo who bark for the NRA.
Meh. If you want fully trained and credentialed resource officers in schools then feel free to argue for it. I can't wait to hear how you plan to pay for it without borrowing money from China or raising taxes.
Could you imagine what would happen if the NRA spent just half of the resources they spend on defending everybody's right to carry any weapon anywhere to combating and treating mental illness?
Meh. If you want fully trained and credentialed resource officers in schools then feel free to argue for it. I can't wait to hear how you plan to pay for it without borrowing money from China or raising taxes.
An armed safety office didn't help a bit at the Columbine school. Why would you think it would make a difference anywhere then? The whole shooting in Newtown was over in 3 minutes. No "safety officer would have been able to stop it either. Those weapons are just too fast and powerful.
An armed safety office didn't help a bit at the Columbine school. Why would you think it would make a difference anywhere then? The whole shooting in Newtown was over in 3 minutes. No "safety officer would have been able to stop it either. Those weapons are just too fast and powerful.
Maybe if you allowed veterans into society more readily instead of pooping on them more would hold less resentment for society.Or Ft. Hood, a freaking military base. Yes, I know, right-wingers, the guys walking around the base were unarmed. But of all places, shouldn't an armed security force be able to respond pretty quickly to stop the situation there? Short of having an armed person in literally every single classroom, how can things be better than they were at Columbine or Ft. Hood?
I also love the facebook meme going around about hiring vets to guard the schools. Hey it will solve the veteran unemployment problem and protect our children! Yeah, because war veterans are known for being such a stable bunch, right? Let's give them a gun and put them around noisy, bratty children every single day!
An armed safety office didn't help a bit at the Columbine school. Why would you
think it would make a difference anywhere then? The whole shooting in Newtown was over in 3 minutes. No "safety officer would have been able to stop it either. Those weapons are just too fast and powerful.
Insane, indoctrinated, hyper-emotional people.You guys dont get it do you. Criminals and even mentally ill people who can plan out a mass killing do actually take into account enforced security measures including any guard and or presence of a possible farm before going on their rampage.
Guns in the hands of law abiding trained individuals do stop crimes from being commited and prevent crimes from being caried out.
How could anyone come to the conclusion that a armed criminal element against an disarmed law abiding public is a good idea ?
We can never make schools 100% safe.
If a group of mercenaries pulled up at an elementary school and came rushing in with guns blazing and tossing grenades, yes, the one armed school guard would provide weak opposition. BUT even if he could take one bad guy out or at least provide a speed bump then it may or may not save one young life. I know if I was in charge of protecting a 6 year old I would give my life in attempting to save him or her.
As to your one statement if my grandson was in that school I do not want to wait until the shooter became " bored and offs himself".
You guys dont get it do you. Criminals and even mentally ill people who can plan out a mass killing do actually take into account enforced security measures including any guard and or presence of a possible farm before going on their rampage.
Guns in the hands of law abiding trained individuals do stop crimes from being commited and prevent crimes from being caried out.
How could anyone come to the conclusion that a armed criminal element against an disarmed law abiding public is a good idea ?
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