Peaceful Muslim
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Peaceful Muslim said:and israilians wrote insulting comments about prophet muhammad on the walls of Mosque in Qalqilia..!!!
Peaceful Muslim said:I am really sad because of today's news.. this is turning into public insults and intentioned.. Some people in Denemark destroyed Muslims Graves only in a Danish Cemetary .. !!!! and israilians wrote insulting comments about prophet muhammad on the walls of Mosque in Qalqilia..!!! this is turning into a religion war and a public invitations for insults .. its bad enough what happened so far, do we need to blow things up .. i am really sad what is happenening to the world....??!!
Kandahar said:The Christians and Jews aren't the ones burning down embassies, rioting in the streets, destroying their own neighborhoods, and preaching death to all Muslims. This isn't a religious war, because a war requires two sides. Only one side is fighting.
Peaceful Muslim said:...and israilians wrote insulting comments about prophet muhammad on the walls of Mosque in Qalqilia..!!!
Wotk said:This is a fake.
Bergslagstroll said:Well if only one percent of the muslims "was fighting" the world would be in really deep ****. Because the muslim are in total around 1,3 billion. But even in the hot spot most muslims are calm and many imans are trying to stop the violence. So a very large part of them are thankefully peacfull and even seculare. But yes it maybee not the best idea in the world to try to **** of so many people. Because some will bite and then probably in a way you didn't expected.
Kandahar said:If it's just a handful of extremists, as you claim, then what do we gain by not ******* off so many people? The extremists won't change their minds, and supposedly we don't need to worry about the mainstream anyway...
Peaceful Muslim said:I am really sad because of today's news.. this is turning into public insults and intentioned.. Some people in Denemark destroyed Muslims Graves only in a Danish Cemetary .. !!!! and israilians wrote insulting comments about prophet muhammad on the walls of Mosque in Qalqilia..!!! this is turning into a religion war and a public invitations for insults .. its bad enough what happened so far, do we need to blow things up .. i am really sad what is happenening to the world....??!!
Bergslagstroll said:Well if only one percent of the muslims "was fighting" the world would be in really deep ****. Because the muslim are in total around 1,3 billion. But even in the hot spot most muslims are calm and many imans are trying to stop the violence. So a very large part of them are thankefully peacfull and even seculare. But yes it maybee not the best idea in the world to try to **** of so many people. Because some will bite and then probably in a way you didn't expected.
Calm2Chaos said:Then the world needs to bite back. At no time for no reason is caving in to a pack of animals a good idea. They smell fear and the next attack will be worse. Better to be offensive then defensive IMO.
Bergslagstroll said:A good start would be defining that you mean by animals. Because one of the most important thing is show the mayority of muslim the respect they deserve. At the same time you condemn and make smart moves against the extremist.
Calm2Chaos said:Animals are the ones destroying the cities, burning things, killing innocent civillians, killing children, kidnapping people, murder, torture, intimidation, funding terrorist or terrorism, supporting terrorist or terrorism, hiding or training terrorist, cheering or electing terrorist.
You want respect.. You earn it. You earn it by openly and loudly opposing these animals. You get respect by helping to catch, find and or kill these animals. You get respect by trying to be part of the global community and not danger point.
Bergslagstroll said:Well it's much in the beholder. Like for example all the americans that voted for Reagen in his second election was animals. Because he supported to alot of contras group that can be seen as nothing but supporting terrorism. The same for all the americans that cheered on USA terrorbombing of towns during the WW2. This according to your definition that is totally black and white. Either you totally are against acts of terrorism and all action that can be seen as that or you are a animal no matter the circumstances...
Calm2Chaos said:Ok .. I'm an american animal and we are all terrorist.. Now that we settled that lets kill everything that carries a quran. If I am going to be a terrorist we should start to act like them. Drop some daisycutters in the school yards. I want nothing walking out of there over 28 inches tall. The difference being we are terrorist with realy big bombs. I want them all dead because it is my belief that is the right thing to do and someone told me I was right. I see no reason to not unleash the entire American terrorist arsenal on top of them. After the ME we can root out the survivors in the other nations and "cleanse"<sp> the rest of the globe. I will do this because 1 your right we are terrorist. And 2 there different and think different and I don't like it.....If we were them or like them .. This whole thing would be a non issue. They would ALL be dead by now.
So hows that sound
By the way I try to live in the present not the past.. Bringing up the past to me makes little sense. We are different the world is different the circumstances are different.
WWII tactics called for carpet bombing of cities. This was done by pretty much every nation. If we weren't over there trying to save some sorry asses we wouldn't have had to do it in the first place.
nkgupta80 said:I like you're first statement. We are indeed all animals techincally. Take the iraqi' women's point of view: Imagine an Iraqi women just lost her baby in one of our bombing raids. then she saw americans on TV cheering about how we bombed baghdad (i remember the attitude everyone had then -- lets bomb the fk outta bhagdad, singing that retarded bombs over baghdad song and shiit).
To her, we would be animals too. Reducing her baby's life to mere collateral damage. its basically telling her, uhh some of youwill die, we don't know who, but we'll try to keep it to a minimum. I mean, we definately seem like animals.
So are you christian by any chance?
DivineComedy said:Once again questions went unanswered:
http://www.debatepolitics.com/showpost.php?p=226453&postcount=50
“do we need to blow things up” (Peaceful Muslim)
Who are the magical “we?”
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Heads up people! The magical “they” may be here.
Peaceful Muslim said:hi there,
sorry for not replying back but i am drowning with work.. this is for you and for everybody else .. for the time being i am unable to follow up with the discussions so here is my email, i will more than happy to reply to you emails:
nadaeh99@hotmail.com
hopefully soon i will be able to catch up with you guys
DivineComedy said:Dear Peaceful Muslim I prefer a public discussion for obvious reasons.
Especially, after having a conversation on the Taliban and the Koran prior to September 11, 2001 with a Muslim, and never getting a response to an email to find out if that Muslim was Okay. I had a good reason to be paranoid about that situation, and as a result of not getting answers to many questions over the years I will jump on certain phrases like a wolf.
If you could respond to an email you should be able to respond on here for all to see and evaluate. One of us might say something the other might misinterpret and someone else could catch it, and correct any misunderstanding.
Also, I don’t think it is a good idea to give out an email address unless you want every bad person to send you the most hateful mail imaginable. Hopefully that email address is not one you use for important stuff. A public discussion on here is better because the bad people can be punished by the moderators and the posts removed should any of us get out of line.
Basically, since I have heard many Muslims condemn terrorism and yet defend Hamas, and know of the Arab League attempts to change the definition of "terrorism," I first would just like to know how you feel about Hamas.
DivineComedy said:Dear Peaceful Muslim I prefer a public discussion for obvious reasons.
Especially, after having a conversation on the Taliban and the Koran prior to September 11, 2001 with a Muslim, and never getting a response to an email to find out if that Muslim was Okay. I had a good reason to be paranoid about that situation, and as a result of not getting answers to many questions over the years I will jump on certain phrases like a wolf.
If you could respond to an email you should be able to respond on here for all to see and evaluate. One of us might say something the other might misinterpret and someone else could catch it, and correct any misunderstanding.
Also, I don’t think it is a good idea to give out an email address unless you want every bad person to send you the most hateful mail imaginable. Hopefully that email address is not one you use for important stuff. A public discussion on here is better because the bad people can be punished by the moderators and the posts removed should any of us get out of line.
Basically, since I have heard many Muslims condemn terrorism and yet defend Hamas, and know of the Arab League attempts to change the definition of "terrorism," I first would just like to know how you feel about Hamas.
Peaceful Muslim said:As for your question about Hamas; first can you imagine this for a second?: you own a house you built with your hands, your lived in it for like 40 years with you wife and kids, you planted every tree in its yard and every flower.. now imagine someone comes a long and destroys it and kills your kids or imagine that kid seeing his dad getting killed..you tell me what will you do?
Peaceful Muslim said:.. just because hamas is Islam oriented movement that doesn’t mean they are terrorists..
DivineComedy said:Yes I can imagine it, and in my case if I was still alive I would simply call the police, and they wear uniforms and carry arms openly, and if the police couldn‘t handle it they would call the Governor to send in the national guard, and they wear uniforms and carry arms openly, and if the national guard couldn’t handle it they would call the Feds to send in the military, and they wear uniforms and carry arms openly too. If you do not see the uniformity of it all, that is where we have a problem.
I would like for that to be correct about Islam, but, Palestinians have not made that easy!
I see a loved one between two snakes, one on the left, and one on the right, and my loved one is listening to music (as always) and can‘t hear my screams; I just happen to have a gun:
1) The snake on the left has stripes that are black, yellow, red, yellow, black, yellow, red, yellow, and black.
2) The snake on the right has stripes that are yellow, black, red, black, yellow, black, red, black, and yellow.
Now, to be safe I could just kill both snakes and let God sort them out, but I don‘t want to kill a harmless snake unless I absolutely can‘t remember which one is dangerous. Do you know which snake is dangerous? You are now in my position. This is a matter of life and death. There are only seconds to decide. KILL ONE OF THEM OR BOTH OF THEM RIGHT NOW!
One of the snakes is deadly and its pattern tells other animals to beware, and one of them is harmless yet has a pattern to protect itself from dumb animals; human beings have a greater ability to tell the difference between the harmless snake and the dangerous snake.
Since humans do not have a natural coloring that tells others if we are harmless or dangerous, therefore Civilization has stepped in and created a set of laws and rules of warfare so that we can tell the harmless from the dangerous when we have a dispute.
Since Islam has a golden rule, “Do unto all men as you would wish to have done unto you; and reject for others what you would reject for yourselves,” therefore do not waste your time telling me about what the Israelis have done to so-called Palestinians when I see their military colors coming and going in uniform, and I do not see your colors until it is too late.
If we see Israelis parachuting onto the beach we know to kill only those Jews that are in an Israeli uniform. If we see Palestinians parachuting onto the beach, we can tell their speech by the forked tongue thanks to the Arab League supported PLO and Hamas terrorists, we know that to be safe we have to kill all the Muslims and Arabs we see on the beach.
We all have a right to defend ourselves, and disputes are going to happen especially when one side wants to put the other under a state of subjection, but the important thing is that your blatant violations of the golden rule have given us no choice but to believe you are all dangerous until we determine the harmless snake from the dangerous snake. And thanks to you in many cases we just have to shoot first and ask questions later, and those murders are on your hands Palestinian Muslim.
You have chosen your colors Palestinian Muslim and now if you die you can only blame yourself, because we will kill the harmless snake if we can‘t tell the difference between it and the dangerous snake.
The Palestinians have no right to occupy and own a land when Civilizations can’t tell the difference between the harmless Palestinian and the dangerous Palestinian snake.
I feel terrible about what you have done to yourselves over the years, and you should be ashamed of yourselves Palestinian Muslim.
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“March 5, 2003: Bus bombing in Haifa. U.S. citizens killed: Abigail Leitel, 14, who was born in Lebanon, New Hampshire.” http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Terrorism/usvictims.html
“The suicide bomber was 20 years old, a student of the Hebron Polytechnic University (from which a large number of suicide bombers have emerged) and a member of the Hamas terrorist organization.” http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/861590/posts
March 13, 2003: “(CBS) Saddam Hussein has distributed $260,000 to 26 families of Palestinians killed in 29 months of fighting with Israel, including a $10,000 check to the family of a Hamas suicide bomber.
In a packed banquet hall on Wednesday, the families came one-by-one to receive their $10,000 checks. A large banner said: ‘The Arab Baath Party Welcomes the Families of the Martyrs for the Distribution of Blessings of Saddam Hussein.’“ http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/03/14/world/main543981.shtml
“Recalling that in its resolution 687 (1991) the Council declared that a ceasefire would be based on acceptance by Iraq of the provisions of that resolution, including the obligations on Iraq contained therein,” http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/11/08/resolution.text/
March 17, 2003: “The regime has a history of reckless aggression in the Middle East. It has a deep hatred of America and our friends. And it has aided, trained and harbored terrorists, including operatives of al Qaeda.”
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030317-7.html
Palestinian Muslim we will not make war against any of you on account of your religion, but civilizations will have no problem making war against any land whose known rule of savage warfare is to use civilian disguise (in violation of the Golden Rule) for “an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.”
And I am so sorry that - with all respect - you can't see beyond the tip of your nose.. you only see what your media is showing you ..
http://www.deiryassin.org/mas.html (that was in 1948!!!!)
http://www.geocities.com/ahlulbayt14/qana.html
http://www.robert-fisk.com/articles18.htm
Please do not tell me that we are the ones who did this to our selves..
Palestinian Muslim let us concentrate on what we can see for ourselves and try to determine who is harmless and who is dangerous. And establish some rules to live by. That is the important thing for all of us; trust is the most important thing!Peaceful Muslim said:And I am so sorry that - with all respect - you can't see beyond the tip of your nose.. you only see what your media is showing you ..
http://www.deiryassin.org/mas.html (that was in 1948!!!!)
http://www.geocities.com/ahlulbayt14/qana.html
http://www.robert-fisk.com/articles18.htm
Please do not tell me that we are the ones who did this to our selves..
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